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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:40 pm
by Not_Mafia
Of all the things to pop out of the woodwork for kthnxbye picks people being cleared

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:41 pm
by Kthxbye
just want it explained how they are "cleared".

Why don't you try doing....ANYTHING...productive instead of snide fucking jabs all game?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:42 pm
by Not_Mafia
lol

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:42 pm
by Not_Mafia
carrot/kthnxbye/?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:42 pm
by Beefster
Messenger Momrangal gets blocked by me thinking that she's scum. Messenger is undoubtedly a town role and she claimed her target/role before I claimed mine. The only way that Momrangal can be scum is if I am too. (Hint: I'm not)

Dino is a bit more of a stretch. I really can't say he's conftown, but the general situation suggests he is.

VOTE: Carrot and Stick

We are NOT lynching Momrangal today. I accidentally confirmed her as town.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:42 pm
by Kthxbye
yeah, if I play another game with you, it'll be too soon.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:43 pm
by Not_Mafia
I'm sorry you drew scum

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:45 pm
by Beefster
In post 1178, Not_Mafia wrote:carrot/kthnxbye/?
The third could actually by acryon,
especially
if C&S flips scum. She had every opportunity to fully bus him today, but did not, instead going after conftown Momrangal.

the worst is also plausible from my POE.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:48 pm
by Beefster
@Not_Mafia: Are you Mr Saturn? [/joke]

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:48 pm
by Kthxbye
Here's the deal. like you said, you both could be scum. It's a super strong strat to come up with at night. It's also risky as it links the two of you.

You are not confirmed, thus she is not confirmed.

I'm just saying that throwing confirmed around like that doesn't make it true, especially to anyone not you (if you're town). I don't know you're town yet.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:49 pm
by Kthxbye
In post 1181, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm sorry you drew scum
make a case or stfu.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:50 pm
by Not_Mafia
Care to comment on mastina's claim kthnxbye? Or are you just gonna continue your discredit on everyone pushing her?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:50 pm
by Beefster
In post 1184, Kthxbye wrote:Here's the deal. like you said, you both could be scum. It's a super strong strat to come up with at night. It's also risky as it links the two of you.

You are not confirmed, thus she is not confirmed.

I'm just saying that throwing confirmed around like that doesn't make it true, especially to anyone not you (if you're town). I don't know you're town yet.
Go ahead and place your bets.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:52 pm
by Kthxbye
Also, C&S may or may not be scum, but we aren't lynching them before we lynch acryon. Notice he's letting all this other shit play out and remaining silent yeah?

I can't prove that's what he's doing as he hasn't posted anywhere else since the end of D1, but my gut tells me it's so.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:53 pm
by Momrangal
In post 1182, Beefster wrote:
In post 1178, Not_Mafia wrote:carrot/kthnxbye/?
The third could actually by acryon,
especially
if C&S flips scum. She had every opportunity to fully bus him today, but did not, instead going after conftown Momrangal.

the worst is also plausible from my POE.
No, mastina is going after crayon hard and Mastina doesn't bus

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:54 pm
by Momrangal
Or was, at least yesterday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:56 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 1188, Kthxbye wrote:Also, C&S may or may not be scum, but we aren't lynching them before we lynch acryon. Notice he's letting all this other shit play out and remaining silent yeah?

I can't prove that's what he's doing as he hasn't posted anywhere else since the end of D1, but my gut tells me it's so.
The awkward moment where you prove your own theory wrong in the same post

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:58 pm
by Not_Mafia
Scum team clearly had a discussion last night about mislynching acryon and thought it would be easy. Now kthnxbye doesn’t know how to handle the Mastina situation and so is just avoiding it and throwing whatever shit he can think of at acryon and hoping it sticks

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:58 pm
by Carrot and Stick
In post 1179, Beefster wrote:Messenger is undoubtedly a town role
Okay, making a slight substitution from the original quote, but:
In post 814, Carrot and Stick wrote:
In post 700, Iconeum wrote:I need information about the gladiate ability, is it inherintly scum, town, or NAI?
Wiki wrote:Alignment: any

A Mailman (or Courier or Messenger) is a role that can send a message to another player at Night.

This role can be of any alignment.
Especially in a role madness game, repeat after me.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.
Role != Alignment.


Role does not equal alignment.
Possessing a role does not make one inherently town or scum. Fuck, my role's more a scum role than a town role and yet I am town this game.

Do you know what does determine alignment?

USAGE of role.

PLAY determines alignment.

Play > Role. 100% of the time. Always.

Momrangal's play is just about the most possible scum-driven play in existence. There is zero town motivation. There is a self-explanatory, self-evident scum motivation.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:00 pm
by Not_Mafia
I personally don’t know anyone who would put a scum messenger that looks like town in a game, only a fool would do such a thing

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:02 pm
by Carrot and Stick
Funnily enough, you know what's also listed on that page?
Wiki wrote:
Use and Power

If the communication aspect is utilized to its fullest
, this role can be conditionally considered a fair bit weaker than Neighborizer. Since the power of Neighborizer itself is dependent on the player's skill, Courier's value is even more dependent on the player's skill or the value of the information the player has at its disposal.
LITERALLY WRITTEN INTO THE WIKI IS THE OPTIMAL USAGE OF THE ROLE AS A VARIANT ON NEIGHBORIZER.
LITERALLY WRITTEN INTO THE WIKI IS THAT IT IS USEFUL FOR A MASON GAMBIT STYLED GAMBIT.
LITERALLY WRITTEN INTO THE WIKI IS THAT IT IS A COMMUNICATION ROLE BEST USED AS TOWN TO COORDINATE.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:06 pm
by Carrot and Stick
In post 1182, Beefster wrote:She had every opportunity to fully bus him today
*ahem*
In post 1036, Carrot and Stick wrote:VOTE: acryon.
Point out where this has moved.
(It hasn't.)
In post 1188, Kthxbye wrote:Notice he's letting all this other shit play out and remaining silent yeah?
Much as I'd love to approve of this point, I cannot.

If acryon had been active on site, now we're talkin', not necessarily scum but a fairly good indicator it's possible at the very least.
If acryon was IN THE GAME and yet doing very little/nothing, then fuck yes that's scum.

Sadly, while he is guilty of many crimes, these are not among them.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:09 pm
by Carrot and Stick
In post 1194, Not_Mafia wrote:I personally don’t know anyone who would put a scum messenger that looks like town in a game, only a fool would do such a thing
Subject: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)
pappums rat wrote:Living:]4.
Shahrizai
mykonian was
Voldemort, Mafia Whisperer
, who survived and won the game.
Hey so like.
You know where mykonian's title comes from, right?

It's from a fucking scum Messenger role.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:13 pm
by Not_Mafia
Mathdino will agree with me

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:22 pm
by Almost50
OK.

@Mastina: Please give
the shortest sufficient answer
(I really don't want to read a wall, and I most certainly won't. Just a FYI, I literally SKIP any post you do since -and during- SU2 and I only get informed of what you say either by my eye accidentally catching a phrase while I'm scrolling down or when someone else responds and quotes it).

So, what happens if:

We lynch acryon and he flips Town?
We lynch mom and she flips Town?
We lynch me and I flip Town?

How do your reads change in each case. (I think the best readable answer would be to post 3 read lists, but I will accept a 3-lones explanation for each case of the 3 as well). Thank you.