Open 719: Stack The Deck! (D4)

[Mathdino]

i was initially thinking maria is town for unnecessary pushing on beefster/the worst
then i realized overnight that bussing is maria's scum meta
i can't explain that shift to you dude

i was convinced going into the night that it was you but then things changed

[Wisdom]

Also
Maria going after Math while it was clear both me and brass townread him felt townish here

[Wisdom]

then i realized overnight that bussing is maria's scum meta

Im almost certain you mentioned this yesterday, so "overnight" is a lie here

[Mathdino]

MariaR stayed on Beef the entirety of day 1, pretty much. Is it in her meta to hard bus someone?

it's in her meta to be good at scum

basically the only confirmed townies are you, me, and JJD

you because it's NOT in your meta to hardbus (although i fully expect you to next time you roll scum because of this conversation )

JJD because way out of his scumrange

me because while i do bus, i don't bus everyone as a traitor when that runs a very real risk of fucking everyone over

"lie" is pretty strong

brassherald asked this, i basically said "idk maria can do whatever as scum"

"Maria is capable of bussing as scum" is different from "bussing is scum indicative for Maria"

[Wisdom]

even so
Feeling so strong about it being maria isnt justified
She could still be town having an accurate game for a change
Do you have any reason to rule me out?

[Mathdino]

the specific thing i'm planning on checking on is your ability to fake your D2 reads whiplash

and i'm still waiting on your last 3 scumgames

[Wisdom]

im perfectly capable of faking everything ive done

[MariaR]

Bussing isn't the only thing I do as scum but if you can show me why you think I'm scum for this game math I'd feel better because this is lylo that you want to vote in and atm it feels like it's just meta. Like if it wasn't for this meta I was considering voting Wisdom for his day 1 play around Thor but that can be excused for other stuff he's done. Ironic I can still see you both killing the IC with your gamestate atm

[Wisdom]

but that can be excused for other stuff he's done

such as?

[MariaR]

Your interactions with the worst feel unnecessary as scum and you've posted a few things I thought myself (such as the tracker post and the wanting to lynch yourself route) I feel scum you could've just agreed with math and lynched me on the spot instead of trying to NL. Feels like if you're scum this is a really slow drag instead of a rip it off like a band aid

[Wisdom]

to be fair i supported NL before i knew what math was going to post

[MariaR]

Eh fair point guess I have to go to fully sring you.
Thanks!
(sarcasm)

[Wisdom]

this is a weird lylo
I expected everyone to scumread me yet no one is
Ive ended up arguing on why I shouldn't be townread

[MariaR]

I mean I expected to be lynched when I came back from break to see EP lynched and flipping town so the fact I'm not quicklynched is refreshing enough (although painful)

[Mathdino]

i don't think you guys understand that i literally cannot show you guys why i changed my mind overnight

[MariaR]

Changing your mind isn't the issue it's the reasons you've presented.

[Mathdino]

I CANT PRESENT MORE REASONS

[Wisdom]

Your interactions with the worst feel unnecessary as scum

And math's dont?
Nobody wanted the worst lynched until math pushed him

[MariaR]

Your interactions with the worst feel unnecessary as scum

And math's dont?
Nobody wanted the worst lynched until math pushed him

You and Math are 2 different people who's ego I have at 2 different levels of play. so no Math's don't.

[Wisdom]

uh how is ego related

[MariaR]

Ego is extremely related with how I think someone would take a scumgame. If you or Math were someone who I didn't consider to have that big an ego I would prob vote the other on the spot because I think only people with giant egos would kill the IC n1 because that's awful play. As I said only reason to do it is if you're in a "good spot"

[Wisdom]

ok so why did math bus the worst like that there

[Mathdino]

why exactly are we assuming that the recruited traitor had any hand in the N1 kill

why doesn't TW/beefster just pick daytalk

[Wisdom]

maybe maria slipped she was recruited

[MariaR]

News flash 4 prs mean mafia have another pr and the only good pr is the traitor