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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:42 am
by Flubbernugget
In post 1157, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1130, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1125, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1122, Flubbernugget wrote:Teacher is the one on that list I'm not down to lynch
Can u get ur vote on someone in this group then?
I'm still trying to figure out what makes ED a better lynch than the other lurkers
Continued absence of a read of his own
There's enough content and scum reads on active players that it doesn't make sense to be wagoning a lurker, and I'm not going to fake a read on a slot with such little content like the rest of the town seems to take solace in.

I've asked multiple people multiple times to talk to me about why ED is scum because I'm not going to be able to start brute force looking through the thread for them and have been ignored.

What is your read on ED?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:46 am
by Flubbernugget
Also yikes isn't a foundation to lynch me on so try again

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:49 am
by Detective Pikachu
In post 841, EvilDeanius wrote:
In post 736, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 735, EvilDeanius wrote:There's not alot there that I particularly dislike but there was a point where people seemed to start talking about him for lack of proper content, at which point he then switched to pushing on others who also hadn't done anything/alot. The timing just seems like a deflection to me, it seems off.
This is a good observation insofar as people pushing me for content when I don't really feel like doing things on day 1 tends to work, but I don't think it's a great reason to "gut" scumread me

Can you expand on your Vork townread (given you list him as TvT with nomnom)? That's been the basis for a good part of Dunn's iso so it would help me if you could comment on whether you see Dunn's push as townie if Vork town is one of your stronger/only reads.
Vork seems town because I feel like they would be more cautious about their pushes as scum. I don't think scum immediately attacks a miller claim in the way that they did, they just sort of let it sit for a while. They've also been very self assured of their pushes, and I think that comes with someone who cares more about lynching scum than just appearing townie.
In post 842, Detective Pikachu wrote:
In post 841, EvilDeanius wrote:Vork seems town because I feel like they would be more cautious about their pushes as scum. I don't think scum immediately attacks a miller claim in the way that they did, they just sort of let it sit for a while. They've also been very self assured of their pushes, and I think that comes with someone who cares more about lynching scum than just appearing townie.
Cool.

Do you have a read of Dunn?
asked two questions, and he chose to only answer one in

I asked a follow up half an hour later on Thursday and he never replied.

And the rest of his iso is a) active lurking or b) sheeping largely consensus reads

In fairness I think this was the last time he logged on to the site and
he's probably going to get replaced
(@mod?)

If people want to wait for a replacement, sure. But we have 4 days and the Replacement Queue just got nuked from [someone getting banned] so I wouldn't be holding my breath that we're going to get a replacement anytime soon.

Flubber do you want to sell us on Buj scum or something or what?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:52 am
by Flubbernugget
Dunno. Why should Buj interest me?

Is vork being wagoned for being scummy or annoying.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:53 am
by Flubbernugget
Let me look more closely at what urap has been saying about buj

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:54 am
by ofrhz
looking for a replacement for EvilDeanius, who hasn’t picked up his prod

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am
by nomnomnom
welp

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am
by ofrhz
VOTE COUNT 1.20
EvilDeanius (5):
Detective Pikachu, u r a person 2, teacher, Cinnamon, nomnomnom
(L-2)

teacher (2):
Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ
Vorkuta (1):
Dunnstral
Flubbernugget (1):
Vorkuta
Saladman27 (1):
Flubbernugget
Dunnstral (1):
Saladman27

Not Voting (2):
EvilDeanius, skitter30

With
13
alive, it takes
7
to hammer.
Day 1 ends in
(expired on 2019-06-22 09:30:00)


Game Notes:

- skitter30 v/la Fridays and Saturdays
- EvilDeanius is being replaced

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 am
by Nero Cain
I could be wrong about evil D but lurker lynching isn't the worst thing in the world.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:56 am
by Flubbernugget
Got any reasons in your iso for scum reading ed, nero?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:58 am
by Flubbernugget
In post 1155, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1108, NerfedBuJ wrote:As for the rti thing that's just some weird shade. It's like you can't just accept I townread you you have to do something sneaky.

She plays at different times than I do and she was vla a lot this game. Also I don't force conversations. I don't have a way to really explain why you're town to me. I've slso not given this game that much attention. My motivation fluctuates. Especislly when I don't feel my reads changing at all despite other people not agreeing. Like we're definitely at an impasse as town and so the importance of lynching right day 1 becomes significantly less. We just need info at this point to change it up a little have people say new things.
Like, this is a scum motivation masked by makeup and cheap perfumes
This seems too easy which normally wouldn't make me skeptical, but buj is always scummy iirc

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:59 am
by Nero Cain
In post 1184, Flubbernugget wrote:Got any reasons in your iso for scum reading ed, nero?
:facepalm:

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:00 am
by Dunnstral
I don't really want to lynch teacher/ED

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:00 am
by Flubbernugget
I had a lot of issues being sble to actually focus on what was actually being said in the thread when I caught up due to a bunch of IRL stress. I'm missing obvious things but trying to read it all again isn't fixing that

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:01 am
by Flubbernugget
In post 1186, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1184, Flubbernugget wrote:Got any reasons in your iso for scum reading ed, nero?
:facepalm:
This wasn't a challenge. It was a "say yes and Ill make the time to look through your ISO"

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:04 am
by Nero Cain
I was calling ED town. I'm just tired of s1 and lynching a lurker s1 isn't the worlds worst thing.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:05 am
by Nero Cain
kinda funny 2 me that this is who I've been calling scum and they are all pushing the same wagon.
In post 1100, ofrhz wrote:EvilDeanius (3): Detective Pikachu, u r a person 2, teacher

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:14 am
by Flubbernugget
@urap

I don't see anything wrong with buj's reads list, he looks like he's trying to solve the game, and I've been calling out the fact that this game is apathy lynching several times and yet it's only concerning when buj does the same thing but with more words?

This selective scum read thing this town likes to do needs to stop.

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:15 am
by Flubbernugget
Actually, you're cherry picking posts to scum read me too

VOTE: urap

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:25 am
by skitter30
In post 1127, teacher wrote:
In post 1124, skitter30 wrote:Do tell

When's rhe last time we played together?
This line, though a bit ago. Followed up in 381 in the same game.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10592516
oh wow, this really does seem to be a thing; i'd forgotten, sorry
ok

couple of follow-up questions:

a) i noticed that urap was in a bunch of games with you - what's his read accuracy on you like?
b) this might be a weird question - why do u think u died so often fairly early on in newbie games?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:26 am
by skitter30
In post 1141, u r a person 2 wrote:What do you think about flubber's ED read/read on the ED wagon?
honestly if he's scum ... why doesn't he just hop on?

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:28 am
by skitter30
In post 1146, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1053, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1030, Vorkuta wrote:*grumbles disapprovingly*
VOTE: Dunn
-Beetlejuice & Activity
-Please do something other than tunnel me
no, bad vote
What is your dunn read based on? I don't have much meta experience here
i like his vork read
i also think his 'i don't give a fuck until we lynch this guy' ness is kinda townie

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:29 am
by skitter30
In post 1152, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 1088, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1080, Flubbernugget wrote:Pile it on
This isnt a reaction that comes from scum i think?
Skitter, do you have much experience with flubber? I've interacted with him more outside of mafia games than in. I don't even know if we've played together before, but this fits with my personality read on him. I think he can make this post as either alignment

and he kind of has to after that post I yikes'd lol
a bit, not that much.
he's kinda lynch-bait-y sometimes imo
but like idk if he's scum i'm not sure what he's doing here really
also i don't feel like scum!him asks to be wagoned

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:31 am
by skitter30
In post 1171, nomnomnom wrote:VOTE: EvilD

I guess I'll make the first step towards building a cohesive town then.

EvilD is the more problematic slot in the pool you guys want to go for so I guess this is our lynch today.
i think i saw that the slot is getting replaced - i'd prefer for that to happen before lynching the slot

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:32 am
by nomnomnom
In post 1198, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1171, nomnomnom wrote:VOTE: EvilD

I guess I'll make the first step towards building a cohesive town then.

EvilD is the more problematic slot in the pool you guys want to go for so I guess this is our lynch today.
i think i saw that the slot is getting replaced - i'd prefer for that to happen before lynching the slot
yeah I guess we have no choice

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