Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:22 am
What's so hardcore distancing? I'm putting her as a viable lynch somewhere down the line while not actively pushing her and encouraging the lynch to go elsewhere. That's barebones distancing at best.
https://forum.mafiascum-staging.net/
Wait when did I back off?In post 1173, Lady Eventide wrote:4: Why are you backing off now if you're still convinced I'm scum?
I intentionally mislynched Firebringer in a game as a loyal neighbourizer to stay alive and still ended up dead. It was a very, very sad day for me.That's literally what Flavor Leaf said, with Titus on wagon as it happens, when he quicklynched me in a boon game.
And he was the N1 kill anyway, even though he built the whole wagon.
It was something else.
... No!?In post 1174, Tana and Ephraim wrote:If I hypothetically had TMI, wouldn't that still make you scum?In post 1173, Lady Eventide wrote:It's pretty clear that you're more confident here than you should be. That you choose to nitpick phrasing rather than engage with the argument that you seem like you have TMI speaks volumes.
In post 1168, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Like I suppose I'd be down to lynch Pops instead but I'd still want to lynch LE after.
This is what makes it pretty hardcore if it's distancing.In post 1176, popsofctown wrote:I hard townread Tana and Ephraim, can you do distancing plays with one direction going like that?
I mean, I don't really know. I don't really do like football playbook mafia when I roll scum. Might make me lose.
Why are you encouraging me to scumread you and to believe in an associative you think is false?In post 1175, Tana and Ephraim wrote:What's so hardcore distancing? I'm putting her as a viable lynch somewhere down the line while not actively pushing her and encouraging the lynch to go elsewhere. That's barebones distancing at best.
You're now saying that you might lynch pops before me, while saying that your case on them is still weaker than mine and largely based on associatives with me.In post 1178, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Wait when did I back off?In post 1173, Lady Eventide wrote:4: Why are you backing off now if you're still convinced I'm scum?
... Really interesting that it happened to kick in right now. Hrmmmm.In post 1179, Titus wrote:Can we just lynch already? My detesting day 1 is really kicking in.
I'm me first and an arbitrary scum player to whom arbitrary scumtells can be applied second.In post 1191, Lady Eventide wrote:... No!?
What the christ. You're being over-certain which is a common scumtell. I should not have to explain something so basic to you.
What are you gonna do about it?In post 1191, Lady Eventide wrote:You're now saying that you might lynch pops before me, while saying that your case on them is still weaker than mine and largely based on associatives with me. That's a bad look.
Why isn't this on your LE assocs shortlist, Ephraim? I disagree with it, to me it's a slot I expect will point me back to my day 1 read on day 2 moreso than other slots.In post 1100, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think Eventide has some scum equity but also potential to be towny further on, so that' why I'm not voting thereIn post 1081, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Oh yeah? then what are you in the mood of. What's your read on EventideIn post 1079, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw in case it wasn't clear I'm not really in the mood to vote EvenTide
-Tana
In post 188, Chaos Wind wrote:I think Titus is town for this post
Analyzing the votes on them would likely be the first thing Town!Titus would think to do here
-Wind
Like Titus did the absolute bare minimum thing of commenting on the people voting them and they played it up as some beacon of towniness and made a read.In post 191, Chaos Wind wrote:It didn’t feel like an attempt to discredit, it felt like a genuine attempt to scumhunt the slots.
-wind
In post 971, Chaos Wind wrote:I like this vote a lotIn post 927, Lady Eventide wrote:... Huh. Interesting.In post 923, Tana and Ephraim wrote:But it seems you're getting hung up over these "reasons" from "reading your games" instead of... you know, adressing the fact that i called your vote opportunistic, also you mentioned you wanted to hear more from us when there's a big ISO with posts from both, and we've consistently interacted with the playerbase and provided reads as we form them. But NOPE, apparently we're scum because RC read your games and figured you were scum from doing so, everything else be damned.
-Tana
Yes, there is a big ISO. Nonetheless, I wanted to hear more. Wanting to hear more =/= calling you inactive, please do be clear regarding that.
I still want to hear more from RC and get real proof he's read WC1, but this feels good. I think Dolittle's my priority now, rather than you two.
VOTE: DrDolittle
It feels like it's trying to keep up solving pressure
-Wind
Again, there have been a shit ton of people doing legitimately towny stuff and CW decides to townread them for... not colossally screwing up continuity.In post 975, Chaos Wind wrote:Look through this listIn post 882, Lady Eventide wrote:Right now...
Frankly I don't have a lot. But of the people I've interacted with/can recall, 5 minute version so as not to get interrupted again:
LLD:Inscrutable, but I don't like how she seems to be ducking all inquiries. I know she loves mafia, so her silence is concerning.
Cop:Scummy in a vague kind of way; I don't like them, I want to see more. I had a better reason but I've lost it somewhere.
Sailor Senshi:Were lurking, which is a pet peeve of mine, and also were a source of the thread blowup, but TBQH my vote here was crappy and I ought to have known better. They've defended themselves well since and I think their reactions are towny. Not going back here today unless I find a very good reason, esp given the number of hops on here. (Who else was on this? God I want the VCA tools from MU.)
Tana and Ephraim:Are currently pinging me very hard, both for tone reasons and because they're throwing shade at me but don't actually seem to want to lynch me. I feel like they're reading me as a weak town player they can mislynch later. Also they called me "a weak scum" when my scumgame LITERALLY GOT ME TO THE FINALE OF THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS. Seriously? Have clearly not done any background meta on me whatsoever and ignored my previously posted scumgame.
Cafe Stiles:Seems towny but fluffy at a first impression. Haven't looked into deeper, should.
Scummy, because reasons.GroarCroag:
Katsuki:Is being weird, but Ithinkit's a town kind of weird? Overall I want to see more and would not vote here right now.
Gameplay:... I think they're town. I don't like how they play the game, but I think they're town. They seem to be motivated more by solving than by pushing for lynches, and that's good. Dislike them keeping me as a 'reserve lynch', but w/e.
Giving me very mixed signals, needs solving... but is posting enough, and is already under enough pressure, that I don't want to vote them right now. Would lynch Tana over them, would lynch them over Gameplay. Don't think that Sailor Senshi are scum rn, and that's a strike against them for an easy inactive push.TaristraTitus:
RCEnigma:Gives me experienced-player vibes, but otherwise too early to judge alignment IMO. Gun to head, town.
DrDolittle:Barely exists. I think he's voting me? Post seemed inoffensive at the time. Let me ISO fast he's only got 10 posts. First and apparently onlyseriousvote... is on me, and IMO seems a bit opportunistic now. I was at what, three votes here? Deserves some investigation/pressure.
Bitmap:No real read, should probably go back and look at esp. given his mentions and apparently having attracted some votes? Hm.
Hidden Happiness, Chaos Wind:are both 2p hydras with nine posts. Need to contribute more.
Gamma Emerald:Despite their vote on me there's nothing else in their ISO I can really complain about. They're just town.
Dannfor:Likely town; you seem to be trying to solve me, rather than immediately writing me off as scum. I could be getting pocketed, but your ISO looks decent at a skim.
I hope I'm not missing anyone; activity list has a couple other people but I think they're parts of hydrae?
@Dannfor: I'll elaborate on this if you like but this is what I have in my head rn.
@Gameplay: her best
They stated that DDL deserved pressure and then followed up after their read on your slot changed
-Wind