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In post 1173, alimdia wrote:My msg accomplying the first quote disappeared:
I was gonna say that reminder that the simple doctor claim was after eth0s flipped a while ago on night 1 as a 'vanilla cop'. The part about your claim I find suspicious is when you claim your universal backup is only for Night 1, which seems weird.

I think it was to prevent swing. If we lost a pr night 1 I got to step in. It just so happened that we lost a weak one. I didnt claim simple doc. I claimed N1 universal backup. It was Sausarex that claimed simple doc.

I know. I was saying Sausarex's claim of simple doc had the precedence of there being a vanilla cop. They're quite similar if you look at it. They both have the 'vanilla' flavor.

In post 1174, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 1171, Karnage wrote:VOTE: LUV

Billy, if they flip town who do I shoot?

I think Invisibility? I don't know, I'm lost as hell in this game.

That was my thoughts too but party of the reason why I didnt ask karnage to share his reads (despite him being conftown) was cos scum are gonna do stuff based on Karnage's reads.

@Mod can we request an extension to the day?

looks like the day ended, lil ended up on L-1 ~ ~

shoot the right person karnage

If this still counts: VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Lil Uzi Vert has been lynched day 3. He was a .


It is now Night 3. Deadline for night actions is (expired on 2020-01-08 14:46:20)

Karnage has been killed last night. He was a .


Invisibility was killed last night. He was a .

VC 4.0

In post 50, PyroDerma wrote:Dearest mod:

As Latin isn't the lingua franca here...for the record:

VOTE: Jocus A

Not Voting (5) -

SausasaurusRex, Jake The Wolfie, alimdia, Billy Pilgrim, Adorable

With

5

alive, it takes

3

to hammer.
Day 4 ends in

(expired on 2020-01-22 22:41:35)

Game Notes

- Chkflip will take over for me in the next 48 hours.

A Mafia what now.

According to the Wiki, a Mafia Enabler is a normal role. I just don't understand why there was specifically a Mafia Doctor Enabler. But anyway, why isn't anyone on.

I used my power last night. Adorable is Vanilla. So he claimed before my role reveal so I'm leaning toward that being a VT rather than a goon.

A goon would claim VT too though?

In post 1190, alimdia wrote:A goon would claim VT too though?

Did Adorable claim Billy claimed?

I'm not sure what to think about SausasaurusRex's claim now.
The fact that there the doc enabler is scum adds credibility to his claim, but on the flip side, you don't need to have a doctor with a doctor enabler, so he might have fake claimed, as if he was partners with Invis, he would know. But he also claimed so early, risking a real town doctor counterclaim if so.

Also not sure about Billy's claim.....

So I'm just gonna do what I said which was ignore your 2 claims and judge by association

In post 1191, Jake The Wolfie wrote:

In post 1190, alimdia wrote:A goon would claim VT too though?

Did Adorable claim

*before*

Billy claimed?

Yeah

Will reread the game and see interactions - I suggest everyone do the same now that we have a scum flip.

In particular will read Invis's ISO and see his interactions with the people alive and see if anything pings up.

In post 1194, alimdia wrote:Will reread the game and see interactions - I suggest everyone do the same now that we have a scum flip.

In particular will read Invis's ISO and see his interactions with the people alive and see if anything pings up.

Most of Invisibility's iso were short sentences. There was that back and forth between Invisibility and Jake on day 1. On day 2 he kept switching his votes around and he was asking me questions. On day 3 it looked like he wanted a mislynch really badly when I saw his vote on Luv.

In post 1089, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Yeah, that seems right at least from memory. Who should I check? Invis?

In post 1094, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Yeah, Karnage is basically mech town at this point. Did Sausa claim targets? I cant remember. Should I check invis? Does anyone think hed claim a pr as a goon? I mean hell he may be a scum doc enabler, in which case my check would pseudo clear him.

In post 1098, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 1095, alimdia wrote:

In post 1094, Billy Pilgrim wrote:Yeah, Karnage is basically mech town at this point. Did Sausa claim targets? I cant remember. Should I check invis? Does anyone think hed claim a pr as a goon? I mean hell he may be a scum doc enabler, in which case my check would pseudo clear him.

hows it pseudo clear him

Because I'm just a vanilla cop. So all I can do is find out if someone was lying when they claimed a pr. If hes mafia doc enabler, I'd get a not vanilla result. So it would pseudo clear him because he wasnt lying about being a pr.

In post 1114, Billy Pilgrim wrote:I think Invisibility was already a bit suspect from the day play. I also think the claim is strange. In fact, being a doc enabler seems to be a way to introduce balance if scum gets lynched early we lose our doc. I was gonna check there at night, but I think he may have been honest about the role and just scum aligned. Honestly, town isnt really trying this game. The one guy that was active D2 repped out. So I'm kinda counting on losing, because town isnt being all that cohesive at the moment. I'm good with a lynch on Invisibility unless someone wants to sell me somewhere else.

In post 1174, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 1171, Karnage wrote:VOTE: LUV

Billy, if they flip town who do I shoot?

I think Invisibility? I don't know, I'm lost as hell in this game.

This is bad. Invis's flip didn't crack the game open like I thought it initially would after seeing the flip.
After re-reading Invis's ISOs, it looks like Jake is town from their interactions, and also when people interact with them. Unless they did some top tier SvS flinging at the start, which is possible.
Also Saurus keeping his vote on Invis for a long time on D1 as the lone vote is very suspicious.

However, looking at his voting history:

Invis has voted for ... me and Jake Day 1, Jake earlier and parked on me the rest of the day.
On day 2 he voted for billy for like 6 posts( 7 minutes), before going on wake. Works Adorable for 44 posts (1 day) before going on wake
On day 3 he only voted for LUV

Then looking at his ISO:
kcda: has a town read on kcda because 'productive'

Billy:He made a joke at Billy twice at the beginning then....
Voted him once and unvoted 7 mins after (mentioned above)
Questions Adorable about her case on Billy
Questions Adorable more about her case on Billy (post 900)
Directly talks to Billy for the first time in post 959.
Indirectly talks to Billy in post 1065, and a couple more generic mechanical talk after the mass-claim.

Summary, almost no direct interaction with Billy whatsoever, town read on kcda for not that great reason
On the flip side, you can see lots of direct interaction with Adorable and Jake.
Also don't have much interactions with Sausa but at least he DIRECTLY interacts with Sausa.

Kcda's ISO:

In post 255, Kcdaspot wrote:Again I say I REALLY don't like the invis lynch

It feels too damn easy

Also I'm loving the activity now.. Imma give this a better read when I wake up

In post 285, Kcdaspot wrote:I still got a read on alim

And a lot of do not like on ark.

I do believe invis has definitively prove them self not scummy

Billy's ISO
On the flip side, Billy does have a lot of interaction with Invis. I'm not sure
See posts quoted

In post 472, Billy Pilgrim wrote:

In post 468, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Billy, can you give a readlist?

I'm only through pg 4. I will get to the rest later. But as of pg 4, I'm liking invisibility a good bit. Not liking Dollys play all that much, think that she opportunistically hopped onto Sausarex, then backed off after a pretty nai explanation. Not scumreading her, but it just felt strange and stuck out. I think I like Alimdia's interactions with invisibility, I think that their interactions with your slot on pg 4 are less natural. I dont know why when they're looking at the interaction you are having with invisibility and identify what you're doing as a misrep they dont vote and put pressure on you.

Not liking your play as of the end of pg 4. I think your interactions with Invisibility arent good. I see you excessively shading and i dont see you trying to sort his motivation. I think you're trying to make him look bad rather than find out his alignment, and that sort of play comes from scum more than it comes from town.

Still catching up. Will have more tomorrow morning.

In post 1164, Billy Pilgrim wrote:
It was deliberately rude. Because it didnt accomplish anything except you shading a slot that I'm damn near convinced is town. So it felt scummy. Because he couldn't change it, so it sounded like you questioning whether it was genuine. And his slot is mad townie, so I was snarky.

Was this attempted buddying?

Only thing is Billy said to kill Invis if LUV was flipped town. ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh