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In post 1171, Shadowlesscloud wrote:

In post 1169, Brian Skies wrote:Typically you won't see more than 3 scum unless you're in a Large, it's multiball (2 teams of 2 scum), or there's an SK.

This game's win condition is explicit in that there is one scumteam (so we don't have to worry about multiball or an SK).

There could be more than 3 scum, but it's unlikely, since townplay on this site is bad enough that when left to their own devices, they play worse than expected EV.

That last part made me laugh actually when the first game i had here had a town quick hammer another town within 15 mins of the day starting

You really don’t have much room to talk. You haven’t read anything, you’re asking stupid questions, and making very poor votes.

You supposedly have a confirmable town role which led you to try less. Ergo, if you’re town, or really as either alignment, you’re playing poorly.

If you want to see better play, play better.

In post 1150, Amrun wrote:

In post 1149, Xtoxm wrote:Elite bodyguard dies in place of the person they protect and also kills the player performing that kill.

Oh shit. Then yeah, this is probably what happened, and is goddamn epic and Scummies worthy.

Agreed.

TSE, why did you choose to vig Farkran?

In post 1177, Brian Skies wrote:TSE, why did you choose to vig Farkran?

I feel like one of Farkran/Amrun is scum as I stated Day 1.
Because of their interaction and mention of the scum lynched Day 1.

Can you point out specifically what you disliked about their interactions?

In post 742, Adorable wrote:

In post 484, Adorable wrote:

In post 413, Brian Skies wrote:

In post 385, Adorable wrote:You didn't give any reasoning to your vote and I saw it odd you voted a player who didn't say anything at the time.

When you vote someone, you need to at least explain why rather than saying nothing.

Normally I tend to scum read a player who doesn't give any reasoning to their votes. Also, I couldn't even tell if this was a serious vote or not.

Fair.

However, your vote on me is the least of my reasons for keeping my vote on you. And my votes are always serious, they just aren't always substantiated by something.

Your vote on me looked odd since I didn't say anything at the time and why would you vote a player who didn't say anything yet. From what I remember scum normally vote an inactive player and they do this so that they don't have to worry about getting a response back and inactives are also easy mislynches for scum. You also voted with no reasoning which is frowned upon.

In post 489, Adorable wrote:

In post 452, Brian Skies wrote:

In post 421, Farkran wrote:I think you need to elaborate better on your read of Eragon. And Shadowless.

Also, while i might agree with you on Adorable, i think the proper way to address the issue would have been asking Adorable to elaborate their reads first. Why do you assume there should have been suspicion? Do you have any suspicion towards Xtoxm, Norway and Bitmap?

No, I don't.

I feel like I've already been fairly straightforward regarding Adorable's reads. It doesn't have to do with me thinking Xtoxm, Norway, or Bitmap being suspicious, but me thinking Adorable threw out easy townreads without reasoning and hasn't pushed anything resembling an fos or scumread up to this point.

Giving town reads is not scummy and I did say I was leaning town on 3 players instead of just saying this person is town and no one at the time asked me to elaborate on my town reads at the time. Your play reminds me of scum alimdia from the completed mini normal 2109 when he was throwing shade on a town player for giving town reads with no reasoning.

Those were the reasons I scum read Brian. I saw some players town reading him and can anyone walk me through the town read? Am I going the wrong direction?

I'm going to go back on this scum read of mine from day 1 which I mentioned above. Brian started a wagon on me making me the counter wagon to Yumeko and Bitmap hopped on my wagon with weird reasoning instead of joining Yumeko's wagon. Pretty weird how Bitmap joined on Eragon and my wagon. Brian even admitted he could see Yumeko being scum but he joined Bitmap on voting Xtoxm instead. I don't see Xtoxm being a scum team with Yumeko and Bitmap since on day 1 Yumeko tried to get Xtoxm to visit him and I don't think scum would be visiting each other like that.

VOTE: Brian Skies

Adorable wagon happened before Yumeko wagon.

Since i think to those paying attention might know what I am...i really have a hard time believing this game is balanced with 10v3 in mind.

Aren't UPicks great?

In post 1175, Amrun wrote:

In post 1171, Shadowlesscloud wrote:

In post 1169, Brian Skies wrote:Typically you won't see more than 3 scum unless you're in a Large, it's multiball (2 teams of 2 scum), or there's an SK.

This game's win condition is explicit in that there is one scumteam (so we don't have to worry about multiball or an SK).

There could be more than 3 scum, but it's unlikely, since townplay on this site is bad enough that when left to their own devices, they play worse than expected EV.

That last part made me laugh actually when the first game i had here had a town quick hammer another town within 15 mins of the day starting

You really don’t have much room to talk. You haven’t read anything, you’re asking stupid questions, and making very poor votes.

You supposedly have a confirmable town role which led you to try less. Ergo, if you’re town, or really as either alignment, you’re playing poorly.

If you want to see better play, play better.

Actually i like my own play. I made myself as least of a target as lossible meaning i get to use my role.

What votes are you referring to may I ask?

I didnt say i tried less. I just didnt want to die before i can use my role because of how big of a hit it would be to us

In post 1183, Brian Skies wrote:Aren't UPicks great?

Love em

I'm going to adjust my reads to:

Xtoxm is probably just the last scum here.
TSE is my maybe scumread but it's probably just Xtoxm.
Everyone else is varying degrees of town.

In post 1186, Brian Skies wrote:I'm going to adjust my reads to:

Xtoxm is probably just the last scum here.
TSE is my maybe scumread but it's probably just Xtoxm.
Everyone else is varying degrees of town.

Why do you scum read me exactly?

I don't. You're just at the bottom of my townreads (you moved down because Shadow moved up).

I still just think it's Xtoxm.

In post 1188, Brian Skies wrote:I don't. You're just at the bottom of my townreads (you moved down because Shadow moved up).

I still just think it's Xtoxm.

Can you rank them all in order for me and give me a reason for each?

You don’t have to go in depths just be like,

JacksonVirgo - Town for Defended counter wagon of a scum wagon and aggressively pushing the scum wagon.

^
That’s the layout that should be simple to do for yeah.

In post 1179, Brian Skies wrote:Can you point out specifically what you disliked about their interactions?

I asked you for this first.

In post 1191, Brian Skies wrote:

In post 1179, Brian Skies wrote:Can you point out specifically what you disliked about their interactions?

I asked you for this first.

I’d have to ISO everything but what I remember is Farkran was at first town reading the scum lynch then changed vote.
Amrun I don’t remember if they Town read the scum lynch or not.

But the interaction between them was if I remember correctly a talk regarding the scum lynch.
And their interactions back and fourth didn’t seem pure Town.

I’d have to go back and recheck exactly what I was thinking at the time but for the most part I know I really didn’t trust that interaction to be TvT with a Red Flip.

Pretty sure Amrun led the lynch.

In post 1192, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I’d have to ISO everything but what I remember is Farkran was at first town reading the scum lynch then changed vote.

I only see Farkran putting the Yume slot somewhere in the middle of his reads list.

In post 1194, Brian Skies wrote:

In post 1192, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I’d have to ISO everything but what I remember is Farkran was at first town reading the scum lynch then changed vote.

I only see Farkran putting the Yume slot somewhere in the middle of his reads list.

I could have miss read but I don’t like the fact Farkran isn’t dead by my shot.
I was either Roleblocked, Redirected or they were immune.

Who would Roleblock me?
Who would Redirect me?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll get a more developed reads list up in a bit.

In post 1159, Amrun wrote:Xtoxm votes are bad

I’m feeling the same. While he’s not ubertownie, there are many lynches that are a better choice today.

In post 1178, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:

In post 1177, Brian Skies wrote:TSE, why did you choose to vig Farkran?

I feel like one of Farkran/Amrun is scum as I stated Day 1.
Because of their interaction and mention of the scum lynched Day 1.

TSE i wanna call your reads shit, but then i remember you scumread Bitmap at the end of day 1, and he actually did turn to be scum so...