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Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 3:44 pm
by jjh927
Okay I'm done

VOTE: Blatant scum

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 3:50 pm
by Calvin ānd Hobbes
Busy for a while! Was gonna sheep jjh but I see my vote's already there.

-Calvin

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 3:50 pm
by jjh927
Actually no wait this is better

VOTE: Farside

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 3:52 pm
by jjh927
Townier side is the left side

Hard town: votato, HoldenGolden, Dr Easy Bake, Clover Ebi, April Ludgate, Creature
Town: mastina, chemist1422, Birds and the Boys, Conspire
Town but with mixed feelings: Calvin and Hobbes
Null: Bingle
Scum: PenguinPower, Dunnstral, Blatant Scum, farside22

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 3:57 pm
by jjh927
Could you make me a list of your favourite dinosaurs

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 4:13 pm
by Blatant Scum
In post 1171, Bingle wrote:1+2=5 is wronglogic
Over ring of characteristic 2, that would be correct.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 4:21 pm
by Blatant Scum
In post 1178, jjh927 wrote:Townier side is the left side

Hard town: votato, HoldenGolden,
Dr Easy Bake
, Clover Ebi, April Ludgate, Creature
Town: mastina, chemist1422, Birds and the Boys, Conspire
Town but with mixed feelings: Calvin and Hobbes
Null: Bingle
Scum: PenguinPower,
Dunnstral, Blatant Scum, farside22
I can alrady see a flaw in that list.

Could I for a small reasoning behind this list?
Especially the
underlined
names.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 4:56 pm
by jjh927
You get to ask about them one at a time

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:24 pm
by votato
In post 1182, jjh927 wrote:You get to ask about them one at a time
ok, please explain them one at a time.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:25 pm
by Blatant Scum
for player in player-list:
[*]ask-jjh-why-he-reads-them-as-he-reads-them(player)

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:25 pm
by jjh927
That's not how this works

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:25 pm
by jjh927
I like knowing what reads people want to know about the most

It means we both get something out of this

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:27 pm
by votato
why farside? i feel like theres actually content there, and i see it coming from a pro-town mindset. most of the reads i disagree with i just feel like there isnt much content, but that one stands out.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:28 pm
by Blatant Scum
In post 1185, jjh927 wrote:That's not how this works
Farside
DEB
Dunnstral
Me

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:39 pm
by jjh927
I think Farside's stance on Votato has been really weird and inconsistent. I don't think there's a whole picture here yet because more content from Dunnstral may well be illuminating. I'd be very surprised if Farside and Dunnstral are both town.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:53 pm
by votato
is your read on dunnstral pretty much the same as mine?

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:53 pm
by jjh927
I don't really get the journey of Farside's iso.
Farside votes Votato, disbelieves Votato's claim, switches to Clover Ebi, switches to Dunnstral for his vote on Votato, says she nullreads Votato, then says Votato's reaction to their wagon was town, then votes Votato again (immediately after Dunnstral unvotes) citing Holden's push which isn't really that much of a push and happens after HG unvotes
It feels kinda like votes are being made to predict and respond to the flow of the game rather than interact directly with it, with inferences generally made on the outcome of that flow rather than trying to place people on the individual level they occupy within it.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 5:55 pm
by jjh927
In post 1190, votato wrote:is your read on dunnstral pretty much the same as mine?
You'd have to remind me what yours is like, but I'd suspect probably. I don't think I have any unique insight on Dunnstral

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:00 pm
by votato
In post 1192, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1190, votato wrote:is your read on dunnstral pretty much the same as mine?
You'd have to remind me what yours is like, but I'd suspect probably. I don't think I have any unique insight on Dunnstral
no content, opportunistic voting, unvoting immediately after claim saying "i dont really feel the lynch". posts consist of hopping on wagons.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:06 pm
by jjh927
That's slightly more developed than it was in my head but about what it would have been if I'd articulated it

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:06 pm
by jjh927
Do you want to return to the conversation on Farside?

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:11 pm
by votato
sure. I didnt see it that way, but was also townreading her, so didnt look too closely at her. your narrative makes sense. she did flip-flop a bit. I read it more as her understanding of the game progressing. I think i was trying too hard to avoid tunneling her based on our history.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:30 pm
by jjh927
In post 1196, votato wrote:sure. I didnt see it that way, but was also townreading her, so didnt look too closely at her. your narrative makes sense. she did flip-flop a bit. I read it more as her understanding of the game progressing. I think i was trying too hard to avoid tunneling her based on our history.
I mean, that whole thing with the understanding of the game progressing is exactly what I'm looking at. Following the gamestate creates an illusion of thought process. Do you think the progression is actually influenced by a real thought process? That's what this comes down to

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:37 pm
by votato
reading over the ISO i see things your way. that tells me i should probably take the lesson but maybe not the specific instance so i dont get pocketed. ill keep an open mind on her for now.

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:45 pm
by Birds and the Boys
ok jjh u can be town for now

-bitmap