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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:15 am
by GeorgeBailey
Game Events


day 1
  • word321
    is eliminated with 1 scum on his wagon

night 1
  • shellyc
    is killing
    SJReaver


day 2
  • Porkens
    is eliminated with 1 scum on his wagon

night 2
  • shellyc
    is killing
    GeniusGamer



day 3
  • MiniMegabyte
    is eliminated with 1 scum on his wagon

night 3
  • shellyc
    is killing
    Redados


day 4
  • ItalianoVD
    is eliminated with 1 scum on his wagon

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:16 am
by GeorgeBailey

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:17 am
by GeorgeBailey

GeorgeBailey

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:17 am
by GeorgeBailey
Post-Game begins now:

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:19 am
by Porkens
In post 1156, ItalianoVD wrote:No, that’s up to you. What I’m saying is that the more we try to analyze and make sense of what doesn’t make sense the more confused we’ll be. I’m not gonna allow myself to do it anymore.

TBone hasn’t done anything scummy up to this point until he allowed Redados to sheep him and then went and killed him. I am leaning towards us both being town so that’s it for me. By all means do your iso for both TBone and I, but I don’t need anymore evidence. If you really are the scum then congratulations. I don’t believe so though.

VOTE: T-Bone

I won’t be changing my vote.
In post 1157, shellyc wrote:Me neither. This is game over.
VOTE: T-Bone

I won't be changing my vote.
Classic Shelly!

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:23 am
by SJReaver
You guys didn't kill shelly? I told you she was mafia.

I POSTED A DANCING GIF.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:25 am
by SJReaver
And you killed Mini. You are monsters. How could you kill the sweet koala?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:28 am
by SJReaver
Shelly, shelly... that was some pro scumplay. You dunked this town so hard Nike wants you to sell their sneakers.

Image

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:28 am
by GeorgeBailey
Datisi and I agreed that shelly played a very good scum game.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:31 am
by T-Bone
Great job Shelly!

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:32 am
by Datisi
In post 1183, GeorgeBailey wrote:Datisi and I agreed that shelly played a very good scum game.
+1

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:55 am
by word321
Shelly won DESPITE me and micc, in a volatile 1v7 with a scumread as far as D1. It is no small feat to say that she played an amazing game; I specially liked when she passed as town for not understanding the kill and the such.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:56 am
by word321
Either way, how did u arrive at the conclusion that T-Bona simply decided to bus me/micc?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:03 am
by ItalianoVD
Great game Shelly! Wow.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:06 am
by SJReaver
In post 1187, word321 wrote:Either way, how did u arrive at the conclusion that T-Bona simply decided to bus me/micc?
Ego.

"The super SE is doing a super SE play and I'm going to out-think it!" feels better than "I've miseliminated all my teammates because I've been tricked by a scum playing their first game."

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:17 am
by Redados
Good game everyone and well-played Shelly!

This was a really fun game and I enjoyed playing with everyone. I've read some other newbie games and this one especially had such a great vibe!

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:17 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 1189, SJReaver wrote:
In post 1187, word321 wrote:Either way, how did u arrive at the conclusion that T-Bona simply decided to bus me/micc?
Ego.

"The super SE is doing a super SE play and I'm going to out-think it!" feels better than "I've miseliminated all my teammates because I've been tricked by a scum playing their first game."
You’re absolutely right. Ego. Going deeper than that you don’t know who to trust especially in lylo and I had been overthinking everything. That is a HUGE flaw in my game. I overthink. I thought getting more reps in could possibly help, but not sure how to overcome it.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:30 am
by T-Bone
If you're town, don't vote first in LimLo. Would have improved it. Should have allowed Shelly to vote for me first.

Other than that, don't get down on yourself. I should have made it a point to explain why this was a good final 3 for scum!Shelly. And not let her get into my blindspot. Ah well no big deal.

I think all you newbies played great, whether you were with us for a single day or through most of the game. I hope to see you in other games on site, whether it be more newbie games, or in other queues.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:43 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 1192, T-Bone wrote:If you're town, don't vote first in LimLo. Would have improved it. Should have allowed Shelly to vote for me first.

Other than that, don't get down on yourself. I should have made it a point to explain why this was a good final 3 for scum!Shelly. And not let her get into my blindspot. Ah well no big deal.

I think all you newbies played great, whether you were with us for a single day or through most of the game. I hope to see you in other games on site, whether it be more newbie games, or in other queues.
Thanks. Appreciate the help as always man. I will definitely take everything you and Porkens said (sorry Porkens) to heart. Do you or does anyone have any pointers or ideas for overthinking?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:52 am
by T-Bone
Nah dude, I over do it as town all the time. You didn't do anything really wrong, except thinking that you were gonna follow through on the death pact. That's about it.

I think what will help you long term, is not getting rattled if people read you as scum. It's gonna happen. If you let it get to you, it wastes time, and gets you off your game. When people scumread me, I don't spend a lot of time addressing it. I will continue to play my game instead and let the playerlist come to their own conclusions. I feel if I'm town, it'll shine through with my play, and if I'm scum, well I can make my town play shine through. I can't do either of those things though if I'm arguing with someone over scumreading me.

By that same token, I don't argue with people I scumread either. That's not productive in my opinion. I do subscribe to the theory that not every post a player makes is alignment indicative, and arguments aren't alignment indicative, therefore, I feel it is counter productive.

I'm not saying you should model your play after me or anything. You do what you feel works for you. If that means reading completed games to read someone, go for it. What works for me works for me in part because most players aren't doing the same things I'm doing. And I have blindspots too because of the way I play.

Really I'd like you to take away from this is a) always trust your own alignment and don't feel like you should ever need to self-sacrifice and B) know when it is time to move on from a line of posting.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:02 am
by GeniusGamer
Wow, that was some good scum play from Shelly! Congrats to you, Micc and Word!

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:17 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 1194, T-Bone wrote:Nah dude, I over do it as town all the time. You didn't do anything really wrong, except thinking that you were gonna follow through on the death pact. That's about it.

I think what will help you long term, is not getting rattled if people read you as scum. It's gonna happen. If you let it get to you, it wastes time, and gets you off your game. When people scumread me, I don't spend a lot of time addressing it. I will continue to play my game instead and let the playerlist come to their own conclusions. I feel if I'm town, it'll shine through with my play, and if I'm scum, well I can make my town play shine through. I can't do either of those things though if I'm arguing with someone over scumreading me.

By that same token, I don't argue with people I scumread either. That's not productive in my opinion. I do subscribe to the theory that not every post a player makes is alignment indicative, and arguments aren't alignment indicative, therefore, I feel it is counter productive.

I'm not saying you should model your play after me or anything. You do what you feel works for you. If that means reading completed games to read someone, go for it. What works for me works for me in part because most players aren't doing the same things I'm doing. And I have blindspots too because of the way I play.

Really I'd like you to take away from this is a) always trust your own alignment and don't feel like you should ever need to self-sacrifice and B) know when it is time to move on from a line of posting.
That’s great insight. Really. I appreciate it. I especially like the premise of not arguing if 1) you know your alignment (provided you’re town) and 2) you feel someone is scum. It does waste time and clouds you from seeing things clearly. Thanks again. Awesome game. Thanks for running it George. Beans are uhh... they’re great. :shifty: :lol:

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:23 am
by GeniusGamer
Beans, beans, the magical fruit. The more you eat, the more you catch scum!

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:29 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 1197, GeniusGamer wrote:
Beans, beans, the magical fruit. The more you eat, the more you catch scum!
:lol: Love it.

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:48 am
by JacksonVirgo
Heyo, was watching this game from the shadows. Seriously thought T-Bone was the scum for a while, shelly smashed this game.
Also rip mini