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Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:21 am
by osuka
In post 1136, humaneatingmonkey wrote:osuka, is this you? Confirm.
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If Dunn is town:
bugspray is pretended to be a derp and pushes my answer as a slip. Lemons and osuka hops in to try and build a viable wagon against me. Egix is a derp and misinterprets my answer as a slip to distance. To distance themselves from Dunn's lynch.
If Dunn is scum:
bugspray pretended to be a derp and pushes my answer as a slip. One out of these people—Lemons, osuka, Egix—hops in to try and build a viable wagon against me to save Dunn from a lynch.
Either way, I think Lemons is obvscum here.
it's _possible_ that it was me, but i don't get night action feedback so i really don't know for sure
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:22 am
by osuka
i didnt crumb, feel free to vote me
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:22 am
by Egix96
In post 1165, Umlaut wrote:Geraintm only gets partial credit since Egix had already given intent to hammer.
If there is scum on the Bugspray wagon it is T3 or Geraintm.
Fwiw I don't see much town motivation in Geraint quickhammering as soon as he was awake.
Yes, agreed.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:23 am
by osuka
quick side note: showing as online doesnt even mean theyre in front of the computer, let alone available to post
fuck off with this
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:23 am
by humaneatingmonkey
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:23 am
by osuka
In post 1144, humaneatingmonkey wrote:If osuka doesn't claim responsibility for tonight's kill save and if osuka doesn't declare who he targeted and why, he's scum.
i'll declare who i targeted in a second here. i want to see everyone's reactions to no kill first
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:23 am
by osuka
i'm catching up, fuck off
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:24 am
by osuka
In post 1156, Umlaut wrote: In post 1138, osuka wrote: In post 746, humaneatingmonkey wrote:bugspray
• skirting in the sidelines
• surprisingly consistent but opaque process
• hasn't slipped in perspective
• i don't know if i can characterize their early setup spec as PR hunting
• isn't incoherently overexplaining in their defense.
take: unsure. very unsure. dare i say with a slight town bias. i almost want to lynch this for being tough to read, but that's not how you play this game.
distancing.jpg
VOTE: hem
You can't seriously think HEM is scum after how yesterday ended.
youll have to explain
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:41 am
by InsidiousLemons
VOTE: osuka
okay, well, this is my tail tucked between my legs moment. i have been facepalming for the past 2 days at how obviously ridiculous osuka's push on hem was. i understand that osuka and i are both obvscum here, the only issue is that i'm not scum. i may have been stupid enough to believe the scumslip push, but i don't believe osuka is. i've seen his reasoning and it is never this overtly wrong. frankly i'm kind of surprised he thinks this push is still viable at all. yes, i understand how absolutely dripping in scum vibes it is to say all this as someone who hopped on the hem wagon. i'm saying it anyway. i really do not have an explanation for why i fell for the scumslip push other than that i was kinda tunneled on hem and really wanted to have found scum. if you still want to lim me tomorrow, do it. you'll have the votes i'm sure.
going back over the ISOs i think VFP could have partner equity with osuka. it's very rare (at least in my experience) to be able to find comments from osuka that overtly point to distancing with no grey area, so take this with a generous grain of salt, but osuka took multiple opportunities to take swipes at andante early in the game, knowing that she was playing pretty much identically to last game (when she was town). taken together with the post where he says he agreed with my early game analysis of andante, there is a case to be made for distancing here. i cant quote right now because mobile but you'll find them if you look. he'll probably counter that he was trying to see if she would react the same way to pressure, which is valid, but again, things are rarely black or white with osuka. VFP coming in and immediately saying he'll coast again could also be taken as VFP creating an opportunity for osuka to distance. again, the case is thin, but this is all my search for possible osuka partners really turned up. scum!Dunn is still a possibility and he didn't really have enough interaction to say whether there's equity there or not.
hem, it is kind of bizarre to me that you're going for me first over osuka. in your "if dunn is scum" scenario, why do you think i'm the scum over osuka?
anyway, hem is all but conftown for the quick flip onto bugs. the fact that osuka is continuing to push him even after the flip is even more damning.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:43 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i love you lemons
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:45 am
by Umlaut
Osuka, I think the thread is pretty self-explanatory on this subject.
In post 1089, humaneatingmonkey wrote: In post 1087, Umlaut wrote:HEM, what's changed for you here? You're explicitly attempting to gather support for Bugs over Dunnstral now.
I thought your vote on him makes sense that it's better to flip him because it would yield more information — information that is necessary for me because I think there's an actual scum push to force a wagon on me and I want to know if bugs/osuka/lemons is a scum team.
In post 1112, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Bugspray (3): Dunnstral, T3, Umlaut, (humaneatingmonkey), (Ivyeo), (Anya),
ONE MORE for the bumrush.
Let's switch wagons now.
VOTE: bugspray
HEM had already said earlier (and I called him out on this) that he was more willing to launch Dunn than Bugs. Dunn was at L-1. All HEM had to do was nothing. He had
no motivation at all
to so aggressively hype a Bugs wagon when Dunn was at L-1. Except maybe in the scenario where the team is exactly {Bugs, Dunn, HEM}, but I don't believe that and I don't think you do either.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:46 am
by Anya
what happened here? did the feds get involved
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:46 am
by InsidiousLemons
at work so i haven't read much of what's been posted today. i'll take a look when i'm home
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:47 am
by Umlaut
EBWOP: he had no motivation
if he were scum
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:49 am
by Anya
In post 1172, Umlaut wrote:I'm kind of okay with just saying me-Anya-HEM-Ivy-Dunnstral-Egix is town and launching everyone else in whatever order is convenient
i agree with all of these other than the hyena not sure why he's in the soup
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:54 am
by Anya
VOTE: osuka for the monkeyeater vote
i don't think a town could be so deep in a miner's tunnel that he still doesn't realise the monkeyman is a beacon of light after yesterday
one of him or apples but not both don't think all 3 wolves go for the slip push thing
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:55 am
by geraintm
In post 1180, osuka wrote: In post 1144, humaneatingmonkey wrote:If osuka doesn't claim responsibility for tonight's kill save and if osuka doesn't declare who he targeted and why, he's scum.
i'll declare who i targeted in a second here. i want to see everyone's reactions to no kill first
I've already reacted. I said I have nothing to add to what mod posted
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:56 am
by Anya
In post 218, bugspray wrote: In post 206, osuka wrote:so you're saying you're completely incapable of parsing a run-on sentence?
VOTE: osuka
this kind of post can only be made by scum
In post 220, bugspray wrote:a disgusting porportion of osuka's posting is literally just being an unwiped asshole to other players. these types of non constructive posts should
never
be made by intelligent town players who are playing to their win condition. osuka is clearly not an idiot and therefore the only rational explanation is that the slot is scum.
wait i forgot that bugspray hired an air balloon advertising they weren't partners with osuka
VOTE: lemons
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:56 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1190, Anya wrote:one of him or apples but not both don't think all 3 wolves go for the slip push thing
why not
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:57 am
by Anya
usually wolves don't just all align obviously like that it seems off to their scent
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:58 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 1192, Anya wrote:wait i forgot that bugspray hired an air balloon advertising they weren't partners with osuka
this could also be distancing
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 5:59 am
by Anya
In post 230, bugspray wrote: In post 228, osuka wrote:
i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you're just really confused
you do realize it wasn't bugspray that asked that question right
hey, please don't gaslight people under any conditions ever. it's not okay
this as well
i dunno if bugspray is that good of a musician
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 6:02 am
by humaneatingmonkey
depending on what osuka says about his night action, I think we lynch lemons > osuka > VFP > Geraintm > Ivy. Ivy might be our mole in the townbloc. If it's LYLO, I will always vote Ivy.
bugspray did the fake call-out on me when we were scum together.
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 6:04 am
by Anya
gera could easily be driving without a seat belt as well
it's no longer day 1 gera so i wanna see some power drifts
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 6:05 am
by Anya