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As for with T3 as a partner i think flow makes a little less sense, Flow like has T3 as their highest townread for a lot of the game but doesnt have any reasoning why. Not familiar with flow but I'm sooort of getting the vibe they goof off as town so maybe im a little more willing to buy that they're very low effort town rather than openwolfing scum

Still kinda same thoughts on Dann

Esooa could be scum playing to win through bussing T3 and getting Dann/herself outta here, i think that potentially could have been a viable path to victory esp with Ich's tunnel on Farren and the relatively low WIM this game. Maybeee.

Redtea i'm sort of mindmelding with and id be really sad if they were scum. Like on the Farren and Esooa and rn with T3 and all the various other stuffs

Farren i definitely townlean........ do i think scum distancing with T3 or just scum being lazy and using him as a miselim...... probably the latter... i overall really think that end of day 1 as well as the start of today is just scum!T3 who is reading Farren whichever way is more convienent to him and failing to cover with any real reasoning

Like T3 literally decided Farren was town when he was on the chopping block and getting Farren's vote would save his ass, but today T3 has Farren as strongest scum now that Farren is the strongest miselim option

The really complicated interpretation is that scum!T3 and scum!Farren were doing crazy distancing theatrics D1 but somehow i kind of doubt it. I think this is what Ich's preferred view of the gamestate was, wish i coulda heard more about that. I think that team probably doesn't vote for each other, THEN decide to openwolf and move their votes elsewhere to get rid of a townie. i think they wouldn't have put each other to X-1 first, wait a bit, THEN do the openwolfing part. I also think Farren's posts of suspicion towards T3 doublecrossing him at the end of the day were fairly believable. I'd be pretty impressed if that interaction was done SvS

Thats the entire game again lol not many of us

Another point against Esooa is that they haven't really been around lately, her main take is that T3 is scum. Also thinks im fairly towny and wanted to heaven me out over Ich. They have really promising association with Dann as well (they started to suspect Dann [and dann the same to her] but they both mutually turned around on each other. Esooa also has Dann as a heaven contender. I think scum!Esooa hard bussing T3 and townblocing Dann is very plausible)

In post 1176, Morning Tweet wrote:As for with T3 as a partner i think flow makes a little less sense, Flow like has T3 as their highest townread for a lot of the game but doesnt have any reasoning why. Not familiar with flow but I'm sooort of getting the vibe they goof off as town so maybe im a little more willing to buy that they're very low effort town rather than openwolfing scum

Still kinda same thoughts on Dann

Esooa could be scum playing to win through bussing T3 and getting Dann/herself outta here, i think that potentially could have been a viable path to victory esp with Ich's tunnel on Farren and the relatively low WIM this game. Maybeee.

agree that i doubt flow is t3's partner

esooa isn't voting t3 though?

i'd be willing to believe tvt before town!t3 versus scum, personally

i want to see if esooa backs up her claiming of a solve before this phase ends

Esooa's main read is that T3 is scum no?

maybe hasnt been around today but that was her thing she was trying to get through starting D1 if i recall right

maybe hasnt been around today but that was her thing she was trying to get through starting D1 if i recall right

t3 is neutral for esooa at least, has a tr on you MT, i only kind of skimmed but honestly im not sure she has much in the way of reads...?? or at least none represented in votes really
more trs/tls than srs/sls

sl maybe on t3 idk about sr
seemed kind of vague

it's weird no one else has taken it upon themselves to hammer, or make an intention to vote.
i may as well ask, why you haven't hammered yet mt?

AND WHERE IS FARREN FOR THAT MATTER

Cause im pretty sure at least 2 people havent said anything yet today

I could have sworn Esooa's main push D1 was T3!scum

Either way my scumteam guess is still where i had it

Farren
redtea
flow
-
Esooa
Dann
T3

?????

In post 1185, redtea wrote:it's weird no one else has taken it upon themselves to hammer, or make an intention to vote.
i may as well ask, why you haven't hammered yet mt?

I was under the impression the game was always this slow

I dont think the hesistancy is AI to be honest

T3's that kinda slot who is probably assumed to die so making a counterwagon would be a bad move

If he's town idk maybe you could for WIFOM i dunno

Im mostly just taking it as that helling T3 was the consensus coming into today so nothing surprising has happened

I *think* T3 thinks the self-vote is supposed to town spew him

I did experience him self-voting once as town but they were under vastly different circumstances than this

I agree i think that makes the most sense

I'm trying to figure out just how analogous to my position T3's is, if T3 is Town.

The last post I can see by Ich Troje that referenced T3 was that T3 was no to heaven, then upgraded to null. (883, 900)

I'm thinking not very analogous, given the relative disparity between their read on me and their read on him.

Only reason I can see that would justify Town|T3 doing this is if he's 100% convinced I'm scum and is willing to bet the game on it. If that's the world we're in, we lose.

Scum|T3 could be trying to get townpoints, trying to channel the behaviors of other Town. Or he could be trying to speed up the day to kill discussion and move on to the next phase. Or muddying the waters for figuring out who his partners are.

I'd also like to give Esooa another chance to weigh in before anyone ends the day.

Morning Tweet / redtea / esooa Town from most likely to least likely.
T3 / flow trap / Dannflor scum from most likely to least likely.

T3 claims he's self voting because "if Farren is town then I'm going to be judged and we'll lose" but by voting himself out first he does nothing to actually fix that problem so im mostly just left confused

In fact, ending this day shorter without him or Farren getting to make new content probably just exasperates the problem

So I dont think there's a single possible *good* reason for town!T3 to do this. Obviously playing the game would be way better than giving up, and I'm sure T3 knows that, so I suppose town!T3 might just not care.

It's fine enough play by scum!T3 though

What's got you confident in me being town, Farren? That's a question i'd extend to Esooa as well -- you both seem to have reacted to me pretty positively although we havent talked much about my slot since i joined and im curious

Just had a thought - I know Dannflor's pushing T3, but I also had it in my head that he was pushing flow trap as well. Was I imagining that? If not, that'd be some evidence against my theory.

In post 1197, Morning Tweet wrote:What's got you confident in me being town, Farren? That's a question i'd extend to Esooa as well -- you both seem to have reacted to me pretty positively although we havent talked much about my slot since i joined and im curious

You entered in with a lot of energy and passion. I haven't seen any signs of BS or trickery in anything you've said yet. Nothing's set off any scumpings.