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In post 1174, Shuichi Saihara wrote:

In post 1168, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 979, Shuichi Saihara wrote:I agree that Prism's day play has not felt sharp. I don't have much of a baseline for her save reputation, but my impression is that scum should be quivering in their boots with terror, and she has not been giving them any reason to do that so far.

What is your read on prism again?

Limbo. I think the mech stuff is a mild point against her and her play hasn't made a huge impression on me, but I find her posts especially difficult to read so I feel like I don't even know what is in her iso. Half of my reads atp are "I don't even remember what this person has posted" and I'm in the process of making an effort to fix that.

In post 1037, Datisi wrote:In post 1033, skitter30 wrote:
His read basically boils down to 'i'm scumreading him for nonsense' *while acknowledging* that he thinks town-me has often done that before

yes because it's assumed town!you would actually learn from your mistakes

In post 1044, fireisredsir wrote:i mean it is also possible that vp's play around skitt was scummy just bc he's scum and not bc he's partners with her

so im also pretty down for a wagon there

In post 1051, fireisredsir wrote:i kinda am feeling towny on datisi atm bc although i do agree he feels a little off (hard for me to tell since my only completed game with him he was scum, but i can get the vibes at least), it feels off in a similar way to how i myself feel off -- everyone is good, reads are hard to come by in this game, no one is obvtown or obvscum, we're all crammed in this tight space, etc etc. and i feel like i can kinda relate to the way in which it is affecting his play here

but i do know that he's good at feeling relatable as scum so i don't trust it completely.

In post 1181, skitter30 wrote:No fire is still town >.>

In post 1061, skitter30 wrote:Uh ceph, you're kinda painting my posts in (what i feel to be) a needlessly uncharitabe light, multiple times in these wallposts, some examples including:

I make >.>'s all the time as both alignments

in all sorts of contexts, and i have a long history of doing so across multiple games. Picking two out of the multiple i've made in this game to ascribe guilt is ?

In post 1182, VP Baltar wrote:Suichi, do you think this post is indicative of your scumhunting? I read this and it reads like poking at things without actually coming to any kind of opinion on any of them. I know you said you're feeling at a loss for reads or whatever, but I'm just trying to understand what the intended outcome of a post like this is from your perspective. What were you aiming to achieve here?

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In post 1053, Shuichi Saihara wrote:

In post 362, skitter30 wrote:

In post 360, Datisi wrote:

In post 356, skitter30 wrote:How are you reading him?

besides +partner with you, i am not

Then i suggest that you endeavor to form a read on him, his iso is p empty and easy to read ... ^

And fwiw i am formally scumreading now too ...

I don't think I've ever seen someone use the phrase "formally scumreading" before and the most likely brain-corner I can see it coming from is a hyperawareness of one's own trajectory.

In post 407, skitter30 wrote: - i object to the characterization of my push on you as a 'complaint about an early game wagon on me'

Yeah... so do I.

In post 444, skitter30 wrote:@vpb: you commented on my apparent lack of commentary on ari/prism in 309, and this is what you argued:

In post 309, VP Baltar wrote:Also, my questions are on fucking point. As opposed to you, who provided zero commentary on the main event of the game so far (ari/prism)Prism, and just omgused me on basically the same thing I called you out about.

And in 409 you literally quote two differnet posts where i discuss it prior to that point, so that is not an accurate claim in the slightest. You're also ignoring posts: 169, 211, 214, 240, 268, all of which contain commentary on their argument, and quite lot of which is before prism poked me.

You arguing that i have no commentary on the argument is somewhere on the sliding scale of ignorance, willful ignorance, and outright misrepresenration, and i'm leaning towards the latter given the tone/vibe of 409.

Also after me pointing out that i actually do have content on this topic, and that your original claim is incorrect, you changed your argument to me not having content about it *until prism poked me about it*, which is not what you were originally dinging me for, i will note as well. I guess you think this is an easier argument for you to win tho

In post 448, skitter30 wrote:

In post 418, VP Baltar wrote:You keep bringing this up, why?

Me, ceph, and fire all made similar criticisms of your posts so far. You're only scumreading me for it, however. To me, rhat implies that your read on me isnt real, because if you were inherently concerned with my line of questioning, you would be asking fire/ceph about *their* line of questio ning as well, bur you're not. You're all but ignoring their pushes on you

In post 494, skitter30 wrote:@vpb: sooooooo had you even read my posts when you said that i had no commentary on the ari/prism thing?

Also now that you've read them, you're moving the goalposts from: zero commentary on the argument to none until prism prodded me to my posts about the argument were weak ...

Also 240 is a direct response to 238, where prism questioned how i was reading her based on the ari/prism argument ...

Worthy of checking VPB's posts to assess accuracy but I recall agreeing with these at the time so they're likely valid. Not sure whether it was here or somewhere else, but I had a moving-goalposts issue with VPB too, and I typically don't excel at noticing things like that.

In post 452, skitter30 wrote:

In post 449, Dwlee99 wrote:I feel like Skitter is probably logically correct in some way but is still scum but idk if that's ridiculous of me or not

It is ridiculous of you, yes

This post has already been lambasted appropriately, but I'm choosing to note again that it is challenging to see it as real. Refuge in logic is a scum tactic everyone learns about on their first day playing mafia.

In post 463, skitter30 wrote:

In post 459, Datisi wrote:

In post 452, skitter30 wrote:

In post 449, Dwlee99 wrote:I feel like Skitter is probably logically correct in some way but is still scum but idk if that's ridiculous of me or not

It is ridiculous of you, yes

does this imply that skitter is claiming she cannot be logically correct as scum? wild

Why is this what you're popping in to comment on >.>
And i dont think that's what i'm implying?
Pedit yes plz do, in particular 409 which i feel is incredibly misreppy

In post 482, skitter30 wrote:Dats ... >.>
That post has so many issues with it i dont even know where to begin

I noticed these two shifty-eye faces around Datisi and it made me wonder if they're emblematic of guilt over pushing Datisi. Could be town guilt from not wanting to doubt your friend, perhaps. There's obviously a preexisting relationship here. This is basic of me, but nonetheless. If I could use the search function on this, I would.

In post 1184, Aristeia wrote:its probably because he thinks townie thoughts

In post 1186, skitter30 wrote:His reads are also changing, in a good way, they arent static

In post 1188, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 1184, Aristeia wrote:its probably because he thinks townie thoughts

and here Im' closing in on my catch up and was going to tell you I might be down to lim prism with you. SAD

In post 1190, skitter30 wrote:Read on me

In post 1193, skitter30 wrote:No i meant fire's read on me
I.e. that's a read that i think changed in a believable way

In post 1195, Aristeia wrote:so fire sucked up to skitter by scumreading her

excellent takes vpb

In post 1160, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 1156, Dwlee99 wrote:Do not follow why people want to lim Baltar

he's scummy and skitter got less scummy