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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:28 am
by Roden
In post 1169, JohnnyFarrar wrote:We playing what ifs now?

Let's just leash them?
Why?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:33 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1167, PenguinPower wrote:no - i was correct originally - this setup does not use the normal version of the role
I remember this coming up in the last run we were in together

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:34 am
by PenguinPower
In post 1168, Roden wrote:You're not even claiming who you plan to shoot, which should've been the first thing you did after claiming since town should be using the threat of a Vig shot to pressure their scum reads and avoid hitting town PRs.
In post 1115, Porkens wrote:so I will allow the town to leash me tonight if desired.
:shifty:

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:11 pm
by Dannflor
roden what exactly is the problem if we leash porkens tonight and revisit this tomorrow

I guess worst case scenario porkens uses his vig to take out someone town read like Penguin but then we just have conf scum

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 1:14 pm
by Enchant
Remember when i called Roden maf?

haha good times

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:12 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Town

Gamma
Penguin
Enchant
NM
Dann
Junko
Roden
Yume
NSG
Kitty

Scum

VOTE: Kitty

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:13 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
I'm writing down that Roden really thinks Porky is scum, and I'll put that post it on my mirror so I remember

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 2:49 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
I don't like doing the whole "all the top posters are townie" thing but it is what it is

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:15 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 771, Porkens wrote:Gamma/junko/yume/Johnny/Rodan
? Yeah s that was you are saying?
Who and what was this about, again?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:26 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
I also asked about this

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:58 pm
by Porkens
I can’t remember. I just spit freestyle 99% of the timr

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:01 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Hell yeah

Everybody below Dann on my list is a shot you could do and I wouldn't be mad, Porkens.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:03 pm
by PenguinPower
I wouldn’t be mad either, but I would prefer a tighter leash.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:04 pm
by PenguinPower
Why isn’t porkens in your list though?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:04 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
I mean I figured we'd discuss, unless we just wanna trust me to call it? I wouldn't trust me to call it.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:05 pm
by PenguinPower
That came across as a read list not a “shoot here list”

So, why isn’t porkens there?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:09 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
I was actually making a shoot here list. Even if it was a readslist I think there like a 60% chance Porkens solves themselves today so I don't wanna waste the spell slots thinking about them

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:11 pm
by PenguinPower
Why do you have NM outside the shoot range?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:13 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
I guess I prolly shouldn't, huh? We could throw him in there. I'm just still on my bullshit about Dann and won't forgive myself if he's scum

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:15 pm
by PenguinPower
I wanna yeet nsg and shoot in {yume/junko/nm}

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:19 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Kitty curious

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:28 pm
by PenguinPower
I’ve never played with scum!kitty but town!kitty is always scummy.

Happy to add him in the list, but I don’t have a reason to.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:35 pm
by Roden
In post 1178, Dannflor wrote:roden what exactly is the problem if we leash porkens tonight and revisit this tomorrow

I guess worst case scenario porkens uses his vig to take out someone town read like Penguin but then we just have conf scum
I don't really think I have much of a choice but to openly say this, huh?

Porkens has more or less counter claimed me. Scum didn't know whether or not I made the safe choice in picking Ascetic Cop, or the gambit choice in picking PGO to bait the kill. By claiming early and unprompted, town!Porkens has told scum that I'm not PGO because they actually took that draft pick. And despite knowing that I'm most likely Ascetic Cop, they're still choosing to shade me and throw a fit every time I talk to them. They should be asking me for my Cop check if they actually think I'm scum, but they aren't. This is objectively anti-town play.

From my perspective, I had to hard push Porkens or else I spewed that I'm not PGO. I considered bluffing and counter claiming here, but the hero play doesn't feel worth it if everyone is so against suspecting Porkens in the first place. Game state suggests that most people believe that Porkens is more likely to be a scum-siding townie than actually just scum.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:41 pm
by Roden
This is all info scum already had btw. If Porkens is town, then scum know they're true claiming and that I'm not PGO. If Porkens is scum, this was an indirect counter claim, and because I didn't immediately claim PGO they know I didn't pick that.

Also, since the Roleblocker flipped first, the Universal Backup can't become an Ascetic Cop now. That's why I think Porkens is just scum who's trying to gambit here do scum knows if they can shoot me tonight.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:45 pm
by Roden
Besides all that, Porkens
still
isn't scum hunting and has been in anti-spew mode all day.