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I seriously don't think JFR is scum. I think thye have proven there worth as town so far. I don't think they are to worry about like I said before. That being said I've waffled so much because not only have I been so confused in this game I'm also a horrible skeptic. Which hinders me most times. I can CP, JFR, GCBC, and probobly Varsoon and Dys. But I also am kinda null about Scott at this point. And Toomai I just don't really know I haven't had much of a read on him all game. Neither for Dys either which also makes me....iffy. Though again that is my skepticism.

JFRB, what makes Daemon a better lynch than Toomai?
Is it Toomai's AtE in 1182 that makes the difference?

@ antagon, I will let dashie answer cause I don't know her reasoning.

Anyway, I just posted this in the QT with dashie, but wanted to open up some thoughts in here.

what did scum gain to pulling off that fake claim yesterday? It was out of the blue and totally unexpected. If we lynched SB and SB filpped town, town would be angry wanting HP to explain himself, BUT if SB flipped scum he would look like a hero, much like dashie and I did day 2.

could this have been a bus gone wrong? I mean any other time, we follow the RB and we lynch SB. It was the horribly bad fake claim that did them in. If he had just claimed RB or something, who knows.

but do you think that the push on SB was a bus? I am half tempted to use one of our mislynches on him. Call me paranoid, but that's where I am at personally. I will vote whomever my partner wants me to, but does anyone else think I am on to something?

-J

It is possible yes. But I'm not really sure. I've been suspicious of Scott for a lot of the game. With increasing doubt on my suspicion. Especially since I was wrong on the whole NicCage thing. Though it is possible as a last resort type of thing to save any sliver of scum they have left, but it could also be a mislynch waiting to happen.

In post 1118, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Hey guys, at the risk of sounding stupid I just want to say that I'm really suspicious of Rainbowjake

Jake from statefarm tends to be an irritating player as town, he is stubborn about his opinions and doesn't tend to listen to others and always sticks out like a sore thumb. As mafia, he is more willing to work with others and listen to others opinions. In this game, Jake seems to be playing as scum jake.

Rainbowdash I have seen be an amazing scum player, and her general MO is to try to take over the town with really confusing but simultaneously reassuring rhetoric that she is close to figuring out the game and will lynch the scum very soon. This also seems like scum-dash

I just want everyone to know this since I'll prob die somewhat soon

if our lynch today isn't scum, then really give rainbowjake a good look through with some scrutinizing eyes

-badcop

Sup badcop, Sup

btw, GCBC, why the dramatics?

"I'll probably die somewhat soon"?

I mean really?

Tried reread, realized it was an utter waste of time by page 14 given 1198.

If the plan is indeed to lynch me or Daemon and track the other, I'm okay with either permutation and will move vote to either side when necessary. The hp/SB thing is either a failed bus or a frame attempt (since many people didn't like his play at the time) and I can't decide which is more likely.

Sorry for vanishing to sourgrapesland in previous post, I have many things happening with my higher priorities. But the self-vote stays because my lynch will help the town as said above.

In post 1199, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Why not track Toomai/ SB?

- GC

given the flip, SB looked most likely town imo.

we tracked varsoon cause his replace out came at an awkard time when HP was getting lynched and it really looked like frustration in his scum buddies.

-J

In post 1201, Antagon wrote:JFRB, what makes Daemon a better lynch than Toomai?
Is it Toomai's AtE in 1182 that makes the difference?

tbh it really doesn't matter who goes, but looking back there seemed to be some pressure on Toomai from the scum, so at least for today I am willing to chalk it up to not bussing and instead pushing a ml, could be wrong though.

personally post 381 (Daemon votes AC) this looks like a bus vote, also looks like he is hoping AC can say something to save himself.

he also wasn't on either scum lynch iirc

we lynch Daemon & track Toomai OR we lynch Toomai, track Daemon. really doesn't matter.

-J

Neither was Toomai on either of those lynches. I'm vt and that is all there is too it. No need to waist a ml if we can find the scum.

In post 1208, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:

In post 1199, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Why not track Toomai/ SB?

- GC

given the flip, SB looked most likely town imo.

we tracked varsoon cause his replace out came at an awkard time when HP was getting lynched and it really looked like frustration in his scum buddies.

-J

And what did you get from tracking Varsoon?

In post 1204, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:

In post 1118, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Hey guys, at the risk of sounding stupid I just want to say that I'm really suspicious of Rainbowjake

Jake from statefarm tends to be an irritating player as town, he is stubborn about his opinions and doesn't tend to listen to others and always sticks out like a sore thumb. As mafia, he is more willing to work with others and listen to others opinions. In this game, Jake seems to be playing as scum jake.

Rainbowdash I have seen be an amazing scum player, and her general MO is to try to take over the town with really confusing but simultaneously reassuring rhetoric that she is close to figuring out the game and will lynch the scum very soon. This also seems like scum-dash

I just want everyone to know this since I'll prob die somewhat soon

if our lynch today isn't scum, then really give rainbowjake a good look through with some scrutinizing eyes

-badcop

Sup badcop, Sup

Lol no you're right, good job rainbowjake

-bc

In post 1205, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:btw, GCBC, why the dramatics?

"I'll probably die somewhat soon"?

I mean really?

That was when I figured you were scum

Anyway at this point in the game I'm willing to just sheep you

-bc

In post 1210, Daemon385 wrote:No need to waist a ml if we can find the scum.

We have 1 scum left to find and 2 mislynches, 1 no lynch, and 1 track to do it with. Why shouldn't we let the playerlist get pared down?

Bah I think we could do something other then just taking down a townie. Yet at this point I don't my words are going to mean anything.

Vote: Toomai

My bad forgot to bold =P

That's fine. We will be tracking you tonight.

VOTE: Daemon

*burp*

let's just lynch Daemon and we will lynch toomai tomorrow. Dashie has a slight town read on toomai and I honestly don't think he would self vote like that as the last scum. Neither are that impressive, but at the very least look at who scum was voting for parts of the game, toomai. Could be a bus but probably not. Why would they both bus him when he was the townier of the 3?

Daemon is good

-J

VOTE: Daemon
What's the worst that could happen?

Meh I think Toomai would be a better choice to kill then inspect me. Looks like I have no say in this matter at this point. You guys are going to lynch town.

In post 1208, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:

In post 1199, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Why not track Toomai/ SB?

- GC

given the flip, SB looked most likely town imo.

we tracked varsoon cause his replace out came at an awkard time when HP was getting lynched and it really looked like frustration in his scum buddies.

-J

Wait you actually had the same thought as me. That's like impossible.

My opinion changed when I noticed he was on-mass replacing out of games though.

In post 1221, Daemon385 wrote:Meh I think Toomai would be a better choice to kill then inspect me. Looks like I have no say in this matter at this point. You guys are going to lynch town.

So Toomai is also town?
(he's like the one on L-1 and everything)

GCBC practically has the hammer at this point though (assuming Toomai would switch off himself)

And the difference is none if one of the two of you is scum - one will either win today or tomorrow.

In post 1219, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:Neither are that impressive, but at the very least look at who scum was voting for parts of the game, toomai.

This got me thinking.

	D1	D2	D3
hp[leaves] 's votes	GCBC, NC , Toomai , NC , Toomai , NC	Toomai	SB, hp[l]
ac1983fan 's votes	Toomai , Daemon, Varsoon , SB	SB	—
GoodCopBadCop's votes	JRD , acf , NC , zefiend , Varsoon , SB, acf , NC , Toomai , NC	acf , Toomai , acf	hp[l]
Toomai 's votes	Varsoon , GCBC, NC , GCBC, Varsoon , NC , acf , NC	acf	Dyslx , SB
Scott Brosius's votes	GCBC, Varsoon , Toomai	Toomai , acf	hp[l]
Daemon385's votes	NC , acf , NC

(, , , , )
(RVS votes counted. Unvotes and vote durations ignored.)

I'm not sure what to do with this right now, but maybe someone else will have a flash of insight. I do know one thing though: Daemon is the only player to get through two days without voting.

In post 1222, Cheery Pie wrote:GCBC practically has the hammer at this point though (assuming Toomai would switch off himself)

Indeed.