Mini 1451: A Memory of Light (Game Over)


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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:14 am

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I hate you all for not lynching Marangal. hate you.

VOTE: ThAd
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:15 am

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My initial ISO skim of gay mafia shows that scum-iece was a bit more vote-happy. Seconed thing I notice is quite a few of his votes were just the vote and nothing else in the post. Almost as if afraid to give reasoning alongside it. Reading for full length of some of the days now, but it's a long game.
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:19 am

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In post 1197, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Okay now this is interesting. Go check out Mainstream Mafia.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=25981

Now, without spoilering yourself, take a guess when he went from town aligned to cult, given his ISO.
Based purely on post length I thought things changed around post 760. 2368 he started posting wallz, and I think that correlates with the day he was lynched.

and a look at the set up QT confirms Day 2 recruitment.
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:21 am

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Vote Count 2.12


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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:21 am

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damnit...

i really would prefer Mara over ThAd today (Sorry Mara :( )

Only if it does comes down to ThAd or a no lynch, will i vote him...
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:26 am

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Mainstream Mafia:

930 was his first post as cult instead of town. Total 180 in posting style from day 1 and 2 to day 3 and on.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:32 am

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Going back to Gay Mafia:

catch up wallz aren't unusual when replacing in. Full reads list, but unsupported, though there was a huge post full of questions and comments just before it.

Aggressive looking posts early on - direct and negative.

oddity. 1383 is a bolded vote. 2017 is a vote bbcode. Don't often see people mix those formats.

whole string of gifs after that. odd.

The role claim looks quite carefully crafted based on the length and the formatting.

p-edit re posts with only a vote, it seemed to be a mix of those and votes in with some content. But, for the most part they aren't votes with cases. Or votes near cases.
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:35 am

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sword, if we can drum up support for mara, I'd be obviously much happier lynching her.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:47 am

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In post 1205, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Mainstream Mafia:

930 was his first post as cult instead of town. Total 180 in posting style from day 1 and 2 to day 3 and on.
I see that.

So what are your thoughts about this game in comparison to the others?
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:53 am

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In post 1208, Selkies wrote:
In post 1205, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Mainstream Mafia:

930 was his first post as cult instead of town. Total 180 in posting style from day 1 and 2 to day 3 and on.
I see that.

So what are your thoughts about this game in comparison to the others?
It matches town-iece a bit more than cult/scum-iece, but the "catchup" posts he made after balto meet are throwing off my comparisons. I'd like to metadive another one or two games and get back to you. I'll make it quick-ish. Your thoguhts?
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:56 am

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I am not sure. 881 is pretty different in tone, but it's an older game. I'll have a look at a more recent town game. Maybe I can find a town game he replaced in to. That might be a better type of town game to compare this one to.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:04 am

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Well you guys are wrong. I don't know what else to say. Hopefully this will teach you not to base your votes almost entirely on outguessing the setup. Honesty this is the sort of play I'd expect from a newbie game. My guess is after I flip town you will lynch Mara and then lose because I think she is town.

If I had to guess a scumteam I'd say gcbc, beli, demon.
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:06 am

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Honestly have no idea how demon isn't on more than two votes.
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:14 am

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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:40 am

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I still have time so not gonna hammer yet.
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:53 am

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Vote: Mara


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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:05 pm

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THAD, who do you want dead if you should flip town?
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:07 pm

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In post 1215, ThAdmiral wrote:
Vote: Mara


Might as well try to survive
What?

you think I'm town, yet you vote me in hopes that you "survive"?

and then, you only have one shot of your commute ability, which you used so you are now a VT essentially, yet you want to go after the claimed doc who can still protect our claimed Cop and keep her alive for another day so she could try and get another result that could maybe give us a guilty result tomorrow, who with out me would likely die tonight?
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:50 pm

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I'm the one with only one shot, ThAd didn't claim x-shot.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:51 pm

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Selkies, just checking in to say that my other meta dives support my conclusions from above. I'm off to dinner and will try to sneak in a phone post or two, but nothing for sure. Fancy dinner with my father's die of the family.
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:55 pm

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In post 1163, Selkies wrote:I like neither of the main wagons, nor the Demon wagon.
Just to clarify, out of those three I'd kill Demon. Though today is just meh for me.

When there were two night kills my mind immediately thought of an sk. Its the simplest explanation but I guess that an sk in a mini is rare so nope. Sometimes scum share their mechanics with the tow to look smart and perhaps Beli is doing so. I'm trying to figure out if his "I don't want to enter the dreamworld 'cause I might die!" is scum scarred of death or town trying to use a gamebreakish strat to help town.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:56 pm

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In post 1217, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 1215, ThAdmiral wrote:
Vote: Mara


Might as well try to survive
What?

you think I'm town, yet you vote me in hopes that you "survive"?

and then, you only have one shot of your commute ability, which you used so you are now a VT essentially, yet you want to go after the claimed doc who can still protect our claimed Cop and keep her alive for another day so she could try and get another result that could maybe give us a guilty result tomorrow, who with out me would likely die tonight?
If you want to vote Thad...just go for it lol.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:04 pm

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of course you would want me gone Goat, without me the cops cant work and get get a guilty result on you and your teammates. You also wouldn't be able to kill me at night so the only real way to get me out of the game is to lynch me. that's not going to happen
That's Mara's awkward as fuck claim in GOW mafia, can someone explain to me the difference between what Mara did here?

Do you think Mara if faking town meta?
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:07 pm

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In post 1222, Nero Cain wrote:
of course you would want me gone Goat, without me the cops cant work and get get a guilty result on you and your teammates. You also wouldn't be able to kill me at night so the only real way to get me out of the game is to lynch me. that's not going to happen
That's Mara's awkward as fuck claim in GOW mafia, can someone explain to me the difference between what Mara did here?

Do you think Mara if faking town meta?
It's not really similar at all, except that it's an awkward early claim. But it's relevant... Thanks for sharing.


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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:17 pm

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In post 1220, Nero Cain wrote:I'm trying to figure out if his "I don't want to enter the dreamworld 'cause I might die!" is scum scarred of death or town trying to use a gamebreakish strat to help town.
How exactly is refusing to use an x-shot role gamebreaking in favour of town?
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