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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:34 pm

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ToastyToast wrote:I find TSO/Titus trying to control night actions to be somewhat sketchy, but is a scum doc with a town back up doc all that likely?
I'm starting to doubt everyone at this point so I would prefer everyone to just use their night actions how they want.


It's not likely at all.

Also, there is a natural resistance to having your night action controlled during this time. I know. It's called being scum and needing the freedom to kill someone.

If we lynch scum today, there shouldn't be a problem though.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:46 am

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Actually, its a fear of having my night actions controlled by scum. Scum would work around night actions if we just lay them all out on the table.
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:24 am

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ToastyToast wrote:Actually, its a fear of having my night actions controlled by scum. Scum would work around night actions if we just lay them all out on the table.


Nope. Try to break them. Anyone who fails their action is claiming scum.

PV PM TV and I will all succeed. So it's you three. WE lynch one of you and that player flips scum and we're good.

Who is your top scumread, aside from containing them.
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:25 am

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At least one of PV/PM must be town aside from healing dynamics. Scum don't need a roleblocker based on a one shot cop (that's supposing ZZX is telling the truth).
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:33 am

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Antihero, Danny Matheson, 2-shot Rolecop killed N1
Salamence20, Nora Clayton, 2-shot Lie Detector killed N1

and all non town claims

Scum HAD a roleblocker

so I dont know what abilities the indie would have to force that. Currently I felt it was too much scum players. I still want titus's head on a dish. When TSO started leading I felt it was off and wanted him tracked. But you did the SAME thing now that IS off. I never saw titus do that. But seems like scum titus can adopt? idk
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:34 am

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My Target of the RP will be announced 2moro. I can be targetting anyone in this but I will make sure not to break your cycle just to make sure that if you actually ended up having a plan it doesnt get screwed up
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:36 am

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Titus wrote:At least one of PV/PM must be town aside from healing dynamics. Scum don't need a roleblocker based on a one shot cop (that's supposing ZZX is telling the truth).

From this moment you must tell me a quick answer


Do you think I am town based on my responses and gameplay? (Y/N)


You know that I can easily break the cycle if I needed to. Just showing you that your plan can be flawed if I was scum f.e if scum had any kind of pr they can screw up the plan too. It is NOT unheard of to have a mafia redirector f.e But town usually has busdrivers and NOT redirectors.

I can be wrong thou
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:00 am

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I want you to try to break my plans. That's what would help me show you are town. Out of the three, you are the most likely to be town.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:01 am

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ZZZX wrote:Antihero, Danny Matheson, 2-shot Rolecop killed N1
Salamence20, Nora Clayton, 2-shot Lie Detector killed N1

and all non town claims

Scum HAD a roleblocker

so I dont know what abilities the indie would have to force that. Currently I felt it was too much scum players. I still want titus's head on a dish. When TSO started leading I felt it was off and wanted him tracked. But you did the SAME thing now that IS off. I never saw titus do that. But seems like scum titus can adopt? idk


I am ALWAYS thinking about how to best coordinate night actions and how to limit options. I just don't say much unless I feel like I've cracked the setup because it is anti-town to do so.
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:08 am

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Titus wrote:
ZZZX wrote:Antihero, Danny Matheson, 2-shot Rolecop killed N1
Salamence20, Nora Clayton, 2-shot Lie Detector killed N1

and all non town claims

Scum HAD a roleblocker

so I dont know what abilities the indie would have to force that. Currently I felt it was too much scum players. I still want titus's head on a dish. When TSO started leading I felt it was off and wanted him tracked. But you did the SAME thing now that IS off. I never saw titus do that. But seems like scum titus can adopt? idk


I am ALWAYS thinking about how to best coordinate night actions and how to limit options. I just don't say much unless I feel like I've cracked the setup because it is anti-town to do so.

A setup is never cracked until you know what kind of powers the enemie has

if it is an indie I expect some breaking abilities. If Scum team has a roleblocker/strongman then an indie should have more. got what I mean?
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:09 am

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f.e some SKs have BP vests

wait

BP vests

Make sense in this setup...

I have one myself but I find that we have too many BPs to also have a doc?

so either the guy claiming BP is lying or the doc is lying

but wait we have a town backup doc.

Fuck I am confused.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:33 am

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ZZZX wrote:f.e some SKs have BP vests

wait

BP vests

Make sense in this setup...

I have one myself but I find that we have too many BPs to also have a doc?

so either the guy claiming BP is lying or the doc is lying

but wait we have a town backup doc.

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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:36 am

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PeregrineV wrote:
ZZZX wrote:f.e some SKs have BP vests

wait

BP vests

Make sense in this setup...

I have one myself but I find that we have too many BPs to also have a doc?

so either the guy claiming BP is lying or the doc is lying

but wait we have a town backup doc.

Fuck I am confused.


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that makes sense.

I must check deaths again.

Because After re-evaluating the setup somethings are illogical.. ALOT
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:56 am

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spruce wrote:
Day 4


Turkish Van (Rachel Matheson, Town back-up Doc claim)
ZZZX (Aaron Pittman, JOAT claim, N1 Cop TV, N2&3 idle – Vig/BP/RB)
PeregrineV (Miles Matheson, Town Watcher claim, N1 Sala, N2 Titus, N3 PM)
Wake88/spruce (Justine Allenford, Town x-shot Commuter)
ToastyToast (Wayne Ramsey, VT claim/changed to 2-shot Redirector claim, N2 neil to bulba)
T S O/Titus (Bill O'Halloran, VT claim/ changed to Doc claim, N3 PV) (
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PMysterious (Charlie Matheson, Town Tracker claim, N1 spruce, N2 Pere, N3 LM)

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D1 Lynch: Paschendale,The Nano, Investigation-Immune/Unkillable SK
N1: Antihero, Danny Matheson, Town 2-shot Rolecop
N1: Salamence20, Nora Clayton, Town 2-shot Lie Detector
D2 Lynch: Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Sebastian Monroe, Monroe Scum Strongman/Roleblocker
N2: Bulbazak, Dr. Calvin Horn, Patriot Goon
N2: Josh_B/Neil, Connor Bennett/Monroe, Monroe Goon
D3 Lynch: Marcrell. Grace Beaumont, Self-aligned 2-shot Bulletproof Survivor
N3: Lord Mhork, President Jack Davis, Patriots Scum Strongman/Roleblocker

Not voting: Spruce, TurkishVan, PeregrineV, ToastyToast, PMysterious, Titus
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


so lets discuss somethings:

1- For Scum to have more players it will have to be on BOTH sides. Both scum teams have exactly the same flips

so lets say the remining players are scum

the setup will be:
3-3-1-1-7


if there are indies then it will be either
2-2-1-1-1-8
or
2-2-1-1-1-1-7

I think 2-2-1-1-1-1-7 is.. way too much? but we cant get it out of consideration.

Lets take power roles:

Turkish Van (Rachel Matheson, Town back-up Doc claim)
ZZZX (Aaron Pittman, JOAT claim, N1 Cop TV, N2&3 idle – Vig/BP/RB)
PeregrineV (Miles Matheson, Town Watcher claim, N1 Sala, N2 Titus, N3 PM)
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ToastyToast (Wayne Ramsey, VT claim/changed to 2-shot Redirector claim, N2 neil to bulba)
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) ZZZX
PMysterious (Charlie Matheson, Town Tracker claim, N1 spruce, N2 Pere, N3 LM)

Dead:

D1 Lynch: Paschendale,The Nano, Investigation-Immune/Unkillable SK
N1: Antihero, Danny Matheson, Town 2-shot Rolecop
N1: Salamence20, Nora Clayton, Town 2-shot Lie Detector
D2 Lynch: Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Sebastian Monroe, Monroe Scum Strongman/Roleblocker
N2: Bulbazak, Dr. Calvin Horn, Patriot Goon
N2: Josh_B/Neil, Connor Bennett/Monroe, Monroe Goon
D3 Lynch: Marcrell. Grace Beaumont, Self-aligned 2-shot Bulletproof Survivor
N3: Lord Mhork, President Jack Davis, Patriots Scum Strongman/Roleblocker

So

Scumteam1:
Strongman/RB - Goon : This makes a town doctor possible. It also explains the lynches like the Nano / Marcrell would die if they were not lynched. This actually also lowers my JOAT power by 50% if used on them (since my RB / BP wont work with a strongman and my vig/cop wont work if I got RB'd)
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Strongman/RB - Goon : same as above
Scumteam3:
Investigation-Immune/Unkillable SK : Pretty powerful honestly. But its an Sk and its ability counters the many power roles that are present.
Scumteam4:
2-shot BP Survivor : Pretty much expect I guess.
Town:
Confirms by everyone... kinda?:
N1: Antihero, Danny Matheson, Town 2-shot Rolecop - I am not that surprised.
N1: Salamence20, Nora Clayton, Town 2-shot Lie Detector -
@Mod is the Lie Detector Affected by RB/Investigation Immune? Will the result be null or a town one?
Turkish Van (Rachel Matheson, Town back-up Doc claim) (confirmed town and a really towny claim)
Semi Confirms (confirmed for some reasons but not 100% (in eyes of some people) or confirmed to be not of one faction):

ZZZX (Aaron Pittman, JOAT claim, N1 Cop TV, N2&3 idle – Vig/BP/RB): Lets face it. I am not confirmed actually. But I like to set myself here because I have proven myself towny enough to be confirmed and I have some thoughts about my role. It is actually not that powerful after looking at scum roles. I actually think about this and I also have somethings to talk about later



PeregrineV (Miles Matheson, Town Watcher claim, N1 Sala, N2 Titus, N3 PM) : I dont like his claim that much but he is confirmed to be NOT a member of one of the scum teams. His watcher claim doesnt make that much sense from the point of the roles. Why would scum have a watcher? I dont know. But could he be a scum RoleCop? Since a Strongman/Roleblocker is a 100% scum role this is a posibility. I must keep an eye at him.



Less certain:

PMysterious (Charlie Matheson, Town Tracker claim, N1 spruce, N2 Pere, N3 LM): For this claim to be valid I expect scumto have a ninja of some sorts. Did PM actually give pere's target correcty? I put him here since titus thinks he is town... for some reason

T S O/Titus (Bill O'Halloran, VT claim/ changed to Doc claim, N3 PV) (
1
) ZZZX: I have one word about titus/tso, They do not seem to belong to a scum team. I expect them to be a possible indie but a doctor claim cant be an indie at all. a doctor can be a scum in a 3s scum team in this setup so I still think I want him ded... kinda

Scummy bastards:
ToastyToast (Wayne Ramsey, VT claim/changed to 2-shot Redirector claim, N2 neil to bulba): This is an absolute unless Lord Mhork did the skill then neil wouldnt be killed at all. (strongman cant be redirected)

EXPLAIN to me how would BOTH OF THEM be dead if there was a redirect unless both of them were targetted initially? Actually I never find a Redirector claim townie but the night actions actually CANT work with his claim. It just cant! his redirect basically did NOTHING at all. Can I just say that he is a 3rd scum canidate.. A good one? Didnt anyone see how flawed the logic is behind his redirect?


VOTE: ToastyToast


Wake88/spruce (Justine Allenford, Town x-shot Commuter) : A commuter is pro town usually but something feels off. This would be a perfect defensive role but yet I expected a survivor to hold it instead of a town player. Also he could easily lie using any ninja role or something. If toasty ends scum I am vigging this guy. Plz commute and prove me wrong.



Well ... I am tired and I need some rest. I will post night plan soon.
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:33 pm

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Spruce (1): Titus
ToastyToast (1): ZZZX

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The lie detector cannot be roleblocked. It would return a truth report to any lie from an investigation immune.
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:50 pm

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@titus I would love if you tell me your opinion
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:59 pm

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In the morning...been swamped but I will put more later.

We can exclude more killing neutrals. 2 SKs in a game is asisine.

Besides doubtcasting PM, that's a wall of useless. Voting Toasty is a good move though.
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:07 pm

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Titus wrote:In the morning...been swamped but I will put more later.

We can exclude more killing neutrals. 2 SKs in a game is asisine.

Besides doubtcasting PM, that's a wall of useless. Voting Toasty is a good move though.

Calling my magnificent work a wall of useless makes me hate you since it is freaking clear on the reasoning on each. I am 90% sure you didnt even read it.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:16 am

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WTF DID YOU GUYS JUST DIE
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:54 am

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I did read it. Most of it recaps what I said but includes a few ridiculous scenarios.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:21 am

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Lack of peanut gallery input makes me sad.

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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:26 am

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Titus wrote:I did read it. Most of it recaps what I said but includes a few ridiculous scenarios.

if that is true then we have good news. I didnt read a single post of what you wrote at that time so it looks we both agree about the situation
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:27 am

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PeregrineV wrote:Lack of peanut gallery input makes me sad.

Spruce/Toasty/ZZZX- make your choice

Toasty is the most logical choice for reasons I explained moments ago
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:41 am

Post by PeregrineV »

ZZZX wrote:
PeregrineV wrote:Lack of peanut gallery input makes me sad.

Spruce/Toasty/ZZZX- make your choice

Toasty is the most logical choice for reasons I explained moments ago


I know, and I do like the fact you are here and trying.

Still need Turkish and PMyst to weigh in.
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