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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:56 pm
by Aristophanes
Night Hunters wrote:@Ari, not really buying the whole you're a choir thing. Possible, yeah but a floor party doesn't sound like something a choir would throw.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:45 pm
by Nahdia
Night Hunters wrote:remember it is multiball, nahdia.
-Dad
Do we have any confirmation of that besides two deaths last night? No possibility of a town vig? Sorry I kind sidetracked for a bit, reading d3 now.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:52 pm
by Night Hunters
There was no vig claiming the shot which means it is multiball.
-Dad

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:02 pm
by Nahdia
So town massclaimed? Is there somewhere the claims are collected? I've seen a couple here and there but having a list would be really nice. I see this big thing about GuiltyLion possibly being an ascetic or there maybe being multiple blockers? Sorry I hate being such a burden. Trying to reread everything but I feel like I'm missing lots of little details...

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:05 pm
by Aeronaut
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[L-2] Aristophanes -
GuiltyLion, massive, Firebringer
[L-5] Firebringer -
[L-2] GuiltyLion -
Aristophanes, Night Hunters, SirCakez
[L-5] Nahdia -
[L-5] massive -
[L-4] Night Hunters -
Nahdia
[L-5] SirCakez -
[L-5] ɀefiend -

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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:06 pm
by Nahdia
oh whoops!

UNVOTE:

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:07 pm
by Night Hunters
Nah, no mass claim, but when there is a vig who makes a night kill they should claim it right away. Plus titus and I asked for the vig to claim immediately if there was one and yea there wasn't one. also thor was 1-shot bp which means he would need to be shot twice and a vig in this game probz wouldn't have more than one shot so yea.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:09 pm
by Firebringer
I really think Nahdia slot is town now, with the way she acted towards me asking for conf actions.
Of course that means she is a VT.
But yeah.

Thats my thoughts on her.
Jeanne is harder to read sometimes lol.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:15 pm
by Aristophanes
Nahdia wrote:So town massclaimed? Is there somewhere the claims are collected? I've seen a couple here and there but having a list would be really nice. I see this big thing about GuiltyLion possibly being an ascetic or there maybe being multiple blockers? Sorry I hate being such a burden. Trying to reread everything but I feel like I'm missing lots of little details...
No worries Nahdia!
Also, welcome to the game :)

No massclaim, no. But a few claims have occurred, and some funky night stuff.

Shadow is a flipped neighbourizer, I am a neighbourizer as well.
NH is a claimed Tracker
FB is a claimed JK

GL is assumed to be scum due to night action results.
N1 NH was blocked. Fire JK'd Jeanne (you). Shadow claims to have been blocked.
This is too much blocking power, thus the assumption of both multiball and GL or FB scum.
Either FB lied about his block, GL is Aescetic (thus no neighbourization), or an unknown third blocking role blocked Shadow.
This means we can assume the blockers to be at least partially scum aligned, as there are too many of them to all be town.

So yeah, this is the current multiball/GL scum/too many blockers theory we're running on.

Unless you want to believe NH is lying scum, then this crumbles a bit. I find that unlikely though.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:22 pm
by SirCakez
Jeanne and massive both claimed VT also I believe.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:23 pm
by Nahdia
aww Jeanne already claimed VT? no crazy gambits for me i guess

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:27 am
by massive
I'm still at a loss on how we're ignoring the whole "one-NK-N1-jailkeep" guilty. No one was shooting Jeanne N1.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:34 am
by Night Hunters
massive wrote:I'm still at a loss on how we're ignoring the whole "one-NK-N1-jailkeep" guilty. No one was shooting Jeanne N1.

Because thor needed to be killed twice? lol

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:42 am
by GuiltyLion
SirCakez wrote:
GuiltyLion wrote:how?

Explain

If the claim looks legit then my read would adjust for that obviously (._. )
Aristophanes wrote:
SirCakez wrote:Aristo should fullclaim with flavor I think.
I'm the University Acapella Group!
Each day I recruit two people to sing with me.

That's why I posted a song from Pitch Perfect as my first post in the Neighbourhood thread, Fire & NH.

Like this seems legit to me tbh.


This makes absolutely no sense to me.

What about this claim is impossible to come from scum!neighborizer Aristophanes? What is a "legit" town flavor?

And in general - ignoring the context of this game and Ari's claim - mods provide fakeclaims to scum
all the time
. The only claim that matters is role. Flavor is always going to be solely smoke and mirrors, and I don't like how you're using it as an excuse for not voting or scumreading Aristophanes. If you're townreading him by play, then make that case, but there's nothing in a flavorclaim that can only come from a town alignment. It looks like you're reaching for reasons to not vote him today.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:12 pm
by GuiltyLion
Aristophanes wrote:Shadow is a flipped neighbourizer, I am a neighbourizer as well.
NH is a claimed Tracker
FB is a claimed JK

GL is assumed to be scum due to night action results.
N1 NH was blocked. Fire JK'd Jeanne (you). Shadow claims to have been blocked.
This is too much blocking power, thus the assumption of both multiball and GL or FB scum.
Either FB lied about his block, GL is Aescetic (thus no neighbourization), or an unknown third blocking role blocked Shadow.
This means we can assume the blockers to be at least partially scum aligned, as there are too many of them to all be town.


Or here's the explanation that accounts for the fact that I'm not ascetic:

NH is lying scum
FB is town JK

N1 NH was not blocked, Shadow was blocked.
(as an aside, LOL at Ari saying Shadow "claimed" to be blocked when shadow is flipped town)
N2 NH was not blocked, Fire was blocked - which is why Thor was killed.

The only reason there is all this confusing crap about ascetics and multiple blockers is because NH is claiming to be a D1 outed Tracker with no results that is still alive in D3.

Town!JKer Fire and scum!NH is a tremendously simpler explanation than a world with two scum blockers or one scum blocker in addition to me also being ascetic-scum that lied about it the whole game.

The wrench in my thinking here is I have literally no idea what the fuck SirCakez is doing.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:14 pm
by SirCakez
Being confused as fuck, for one.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:19 pm
by Aristophanes
GuiltyLion wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:Shadow is a flipped neighbourizer, I am a neighbourizer as well.
NH is a claimed Tracker
FB is a claimed JK

GL is assumed to be scum due to night action results.
N1 NH was blocked. Fire JK'd Jeanne (you). Shadow claims to have been blocked.
This is too much blocking power, thus the assumption of both multiball and GL or FB scum.
Either FB lied about his block, GL is Aescetic (thus no neighbourization), or an unknown third blocking role blocked Shadow.
This means we can assume the blockers to be at least partially scum aligned, as there are too many of them to all be town.


Or here's the explanation that accounts for the fact that I'm not ascetic:

NH is lying scum
FB is town JK

N1 NH was not blocked, Shadow was blocked.
(as an aside, LOL at Ari saying Shadow "claimed" to be blocked when shadow is flipped town)
N2 NH was not blocked, Fire was blocked - which is why Thor was killed.

The only reason there is all this confusing crap about ascetics and multiple blockers is because NH is claiming to be a D1 outed Tracker with no results that is still alive in D3.

Town!JKer Fire and scum!NH is a tremendously simpler explanation than a world with two scum blockers or one scum blocker in addition to me also being ascetic-scum that lied about it the whole game.

The wrench in my thinking here is I have literally no idea what the fuck SirCakez is doing.
So, you think Our Parents are aligned with Crippling Debt??
{Something something "when I was your age I worked part time and went to school..." Shit :S}

I believe 100% that they are a PR.
I think they are town.
You are right that I have no proof of this, and that they could be scum.
Why go through all this trouble and garner so much attention then though? That seems counter intuitive, even for Dwlee and Titus.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:20 pm
by SirCakez
NH town flip basically confirms GL is scum, yeah?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:24 pm
by Aristophanes
SirCakez wrote:NH town flip basically confirms GL is scum, yeah?
I believe so, yeah.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:25 pm
by GuiltyLion
Aristophanes wrote:So, you think Our Parents are aligned with Crippling Debt??


Why not? Is there some rule in Aero's posts that I missed that proves that they can't be?

Aristophanes wrote:I believe 100% that they are a PR.


Which you've never explained, btw. You've been pressured
repeatedly
since D1, to answer for this:
Aristophanes wrote:Because I knew they were sifting a PR from the get go with their "Mom" and "Dad" post signing. I had them as a strong townread because of this and due to their play!

Signing posts with "Mom" and "Dad" is not at all a reason to believe that they are a PR.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:29 pm
by Aristophanes
GuiltyLion wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:So, you think Our Parents are aligned with Crippling Debt??


Why not? Is there some rule in Aero's posts that I missed that proves that they can't be?
No, and I started doubting their alignment in that post, as I can see some corrrelation.

GuiltyLion wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:I believe 100% that they are a PR.


Which you've never explained, btw. You've been pressured
repeatedly
since D1, to answer for this:
Aristophanes wrote:Because I knew they were sifting a PR from the get go with their "Mom" and "Dad" post signing. I had them as a strong townread because of this and due to their play!

Signing posts with "Mom" and "Dad" is not at all a reason to believe that they are a PR.
Sure it does!
It is feigning that they have a role, and that it is our parents.
I can totally see them being trackers because of it, as parents are overly attached at times, and want to know everything that's happening with their little ones!

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:18 pm
by ɀefiend
Well I lied about re-isoing everyone, at least for now. I just wanted some life injected in the game. Now that Nahdia's here, there's no harm in letting her catch up.

FWIW, I have every intention of voting Aristo today. But I don't want some impatient person to hammer while I still feel there's stuff to talk about. Mainly, why NH keeps going on about multiball. Does multiball mean two scum teams? Or does SK qualify as a ball? Because I can buy an SK in this game, but two scum teams will require a convincing argument.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:30 pm
by SirCakez
GL if you're so sure NH is scum why are you voting Ari?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:31 pm
by Night Hunters
ɀefiend wrote:Well I lied about re-isoing everyone, at least for now. I just wanted some life injected in the game. Now that Nahdia's here, there's no harm in letting her catch up.

FWIW, I have every intention of voting Aristo today. But I don't want some impatient person to hammer while I still feel there's stuff to talk about. Mainly, why NH keeps going on about multiball. Does multiball mean two scum teams? Or does SK qualify as a ball? Because I can buy an SK in this game, but two scum teams will require a convincing argument.

I count sk as a ball.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:40 pm
by GuiltyLion
SirCakez wrote:GL if you're so sure NH is scum why are you voting Ari?


Because I'm even more sure about Ari and because I have only one vote