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maybe I'm more concerned with how people get to their reads of me than what the reads are?

Are we having two different conversations here...

no I'm following what you're saying perfectly

(I'm not trying to dismantle scumreads on me)

No you literally aren't.

ok?

how am I not, exactly?

Because I wasn't accusing you of trying to dismantle scumreads by self meta. I was telling you its worthless and you should stop doing it.
I literally believe everything you say about your self meta is how you see your self meta, I just think you giving it out is not useful/helpful/impactful.

I disagree

Theres pretty obvious points in this game where your tone is fake btw.
You pretending you are not angry during the game by throwing around sarcasm with it, obviously actually angry.
Like the most real tone thing you have going for you is this weird ego self perception you have. Which is what I believe is the most real thing I have seen about your posts.

Your stances are not much there under the surface. Like just examine the case you made on me. More than half of it was a direct copy of what I said about you, except add in things like "didn't know how to act around fake hammer" and "awkward scumread on me". You even added the confidence level I had on you as your next post. Except instead of what I said as 85% you are 90%. Woah. You are a legend.

Your position on NMSA is "newbtown". The easiest. Laziest. Argument. Ever.

My question for people townreading you is are they townreading the ego part thinking that the scum would be more agreeable or something?

People really should think about how easy it is to make an argument for NMSA being newbtown is.
What criteria do you need to make to fill that argument?
Establish the player is new.
Then call them newbtown and mislynch bait.

And there you have it. Don't need to process thought patterns. Don't need to address actions really. In fact I don't think Ank has even responded to one post by NMSA, instead you just proxy defend him.

All this actually makes me think that if Ank is scum. NMSA is definitely town.

In post 1208, Brigitte wrote:More than half of it was a direct copy of what I said about you, except add in things like "didn't know how to act around fake hammer" and "awkward scumread on me". You even added the confidence level I had on you as your next post. Except instead of what I said as 85% you are 90%. Woah. You are a legend.

I'd love to see what 'more than half' is, because what you've listed is 90% of my scumread on you

In post 1210, Ankamius wrote:

In post 1208, Brigitte wrote:More than half of it was a direct copy of what I said about you, except add in things like "didn't know how to act around fake hammer" and "awkward scumread on me". You even added the confidence level I had on you as your next post. Except instead of what I said as 85% you are 90%. Woah. You are a legend.

I'd love to see what 'more than half' is, because what you've listed is 90% of my scumread on you

Confidence is now 95% you being scum =)

I called NMSA newbtown because newbscum tend to completely fall apart or have a drastic tone shift in general that doesn't fit with what they're saying.

newbtown either has a congruent tone shift or there isn't that drastic of a shift at all

that's not all-encompassing but that's the general trend

In post 1145, Enter wrote:

In post 1143, Flubbernugget wrote:I mean votes without explanations really arent acceptable towards the late game phase

You're right, my bad. No one said anything about tictac pinging them and absolutely NO ONE said ANYTHING about LaL!

"Ping" is lazy at best and LaL is policy so try again

In post 1208, Brigitte wrote:Your stances are not much there under the surface. Like just examine the case you made on me. More than half of it was a direct copy of what I said about you, except add in things like "didn't know how to act around fake hammer" and "awkward scumread on me". You even added the confidence level I had on you as your next post. Except instead of what I said as 85% you are 90%. Woah. You are a legend.

Yeah this is fucking bogus

In post 820, Brigitte wrote:With a 85% confidence. Yes.

More confident on NMSA but willing to hear him out.

In post 968, Ankamius wrote:I'm like 90% certain that Brigitte is scum

Chara is my guess for scum #2 and my current guess is that one of the absent slots is scum #3, but I need more time to be able to cement either of those slots.

this is so far apart from each other that it's a stretch to call it connected in the first place

In post 967, Ankamius wrote:I've been spending the entire last 20 pages or so specifically trying to push against the NMSA wagon (who I believe is town) and to pull the wagon over to myself to see what responses people would have and how exactly they would handle the gamestate shift.

Brigitte has a really awkward scumread on me that I can't find a thought process supporting at all. Her reaction to the 'lynch' was posturey as hell as the only person who seemed to be ignoring it entirely (which is a scum trait for players that are probably less confident in faking reactions to events going on in the game). A lot of what I've seen from her towards this stage looks like scum that can't quite adapt to what's being thrown her way well enough to be realistic from a town mindset.

the case wasn't "More than half of it was a direct copy of what I said about you, except with . . .," it was literally the other stuff you mentioned.

you are also not addressing my stated agenda when I made that post, which even explains why I believe those specific points are very scum-indicative from you

all you've said is that there's barely anything there under the surface, which is provably false within that same post you pulled this from

do I need to do more to prove Brigitte's scumread is fake?

In post 1208, Brigitte wrote:Theres pretty obvious points in this game where your tone is fake btw.

this is true

I specifically said that I was trying to bait a wagon on myself to save a townread

now can you prove that it's scummy for me to fake my tone or that it's fake elsewhere?

can't say I'm surprised you're joining this one flubber

In post 1149, Nimueh wrote:

In post 1146, NotMySpamAccount wrote:Nimueh is refusing to answer questions, is claiming that Enter is misrepping, and is in fact doing the same thing. Back up your claims with evidence instead of strawmanning. Nimueh is scum.

VOTE: Nimueh

No but you’re probably something I won’t say.

I already did. Do I keep having to spam the thread with the post where I already answered his question, despite him insisting otherwise?

I might be more likely to take it back if you quoted both his question and your answer, to make it clear that you did in fact do so. If you do not, I will continue to assume you are scum.

In post 1152, u r a person 2 wrote:

In post 1148, NotMySpamAccount wrote:

u r a person 2 wrote:@NMSA Could you talk to me about my read on you in 943 and 848? How does my read mesh with your true motivations, etc. Thanks mate

@everyone else I know there are questions for me outstanding, and I'll get to them this afternoon.

Honestly yeah that's pretty accurate. I did kinda think you and Brigitte might be the scumteam, but not as confidently as I acted. Reads are definitely my weak point (probably a big problem), especially day 1 when I don't have any confirmed info besides my own role. If I survive to day 2, I'll be able to do a lot more analysis.

Was I wrong about anything?

Not really, except that I would say I'm not demotivated. I just switched back to my natural persona which is slightly more lurkerish, so there's less content than if I had kept going with what I tried early on.

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