In post 1195, GuiltyLion wrote:I still think my pre-Creature-returning-to-thread read of "nobody is bussing Creature if he's scum" is solid
Well man, if that's true, he should be probably town, right?
How often does an L-1 wagon rise that quickly with scum avoiding it?
nah not really? I gave a bunch of candidates for partners with Creature who aren't on this wagon. Menalque being the spicy one, DogWatch, Pretentious, texcat if the Creature townread winds up more WIFOM than TMI, etc.
I also just generally try to avoid reasoning about a
wagonee's
alignment based on wagon speed. I have yet to see it generate reliable results. and I don't think this wagon was especially fast. I just think none of the votes look like a bus in terms of timing, trajectory, or presentation.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:34 am
by Creature
In post 1195, GuiltyLion wrote:I still think my pre-Creature-returning-to-thread read of "nobody is bussing Creature if he's scum" is solid
That's wrong af
It's rule for scum to bus the fuck out of me if I ever fall off slightly
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:35 am
by Creature
Datish
Amrun
DrDolittle
AaronFrost
Pick one to lynch
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:38 am
by Amrun
I don’t think a fast wagon at deadline is a tell at all.
Datisi, the wagon that started it all, the wagon Menal wants, and the wagon Menal diverted the amrun wagon with.
Fucking hate all of this
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:39 am
by DrDolittle
In post 1191, DrDolittle wrote:Ok so creature1 you need to provide like 2 3 games where you perfectly read Aaron since we are in a verifiable he say she say situation
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:40 am
by Salamence20
Cant. Hes currently in game #2 with aaron
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:43 am
by GuiltyLion
and also to reiterate in case y'all missed it in game #1 there's little to no evidence that Creature thought AF was "obvious" town. "Town" sure, but in his last post sequence he went from saying one post was fake to another being "probably" genuine. I'd say Creature is worth lynching today for that alone, tbh, it doesn't feel genuine.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:34 am
by FakeGod
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:03 pm
by Amrun
I think I’d most like to lynch creature today.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:10 pm
by DogWatch
In post 1207, GuiltyLion wrote:and also to reiterate in case y'all missed it in game #1 there's little to no evidence that Creature thought AF was "obvious" town. "Town" sure, but in his last post sequence he went from saying one post was fake to another being "probably" genuine. I'd say Creature is worth lynching today for that alone, tbh, it doesn't feel genuine.
Where is that? I just ISOd him and saw no such thing.
If it's a player I can immediately tell it's town and I can't tell it's town this game in any way, it means it's just scum
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In post 1166, GuiltyLion wrote:
I also didn't find evidence that you especially obvtownread him in that game - you didn't push him or scumread him, but you did call one of his posts fake and the closest you gave to a townread was saying another post was "probably" genuine.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:20 pm
by DogWatch
Oh I’m sorry, you were referencing a whole other game, no wonder.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:46 pm
by Salamence20
Ive decided that I should out my hand since there is a possibility i could be N1.
With careful consideration, Ive decided to park on Creature. I will not move my vote even if it means going NL.
A creature scumflip means Im willing to give SS the benefit of the doubt because I dont think scumSS would be so obvious to switch off a bus. Id also townread GL and Amrun would be ok. Id take my looks at Icon/Datisi/Menal and Almidia/DW for creatures partners. DDL could be another busser but hes vigbait/not going to endgame anyways.
A creature townflip raises my eyebrows at SS, I would have to look more into the wagons but theres scum in GL/Amrun/AF, pretentious looks like he could be informed, and DW/Almidia would look good enough keep around for awhile.
Right now I think Menal is town, SS is my super serious partner in crime until further notice, GL looks towny, Pretentious/DDL/Icon/Tex die before endgame. DW is slimy, Almidia idk, Datisi is questionable.
I missed some but I dont care. Consider them whatever.
Also: Setup Spec needs to come into play tomorrow. Why does town have so many roses? Why should I believe aggressive players like Menal would not have a gun. Boon and Ico also would be people I expect to have a gun. Creature? I can only imagine like 4-5 players picking rose. Either town was fearful of not getting enough roses or scum is a bunch of meme players (icon/pret/DDL/texcat)
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm
by DrDolittle
roses remaining are town roses sally
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:24 pm
by DrDolittle
PS im very much planning to go to endgame tyvm
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:28 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 1213, Salamence20 wrote:Also: Setup Spec needs to come into play tomorrow. Why does town have so many roses?
I think even tomorrow's probably too early for that.
But eventually, sure.
That's part of how we caught LLD in G&R I.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:28 pm
by Creature
Oh great, we pretty much lost a vote
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:28 pm
by Creature
Nolynch it is then
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:30 pm
by Creature
Oh well, today is the perfect day to screw up as town anyway
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:30 pm
by Creature
Wished I could have just randed scum at least once