dramonic and hiraki really think Jake is scum because of his predecessor in the slot
menalque doesn't but he's voting there because he's frustrated no one wants to eliminate Hiraki
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:09 am
by PenguinPower
Why are you voting Marashu?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:12 am
by Dannflor
In post 930, Marashu wrote:VOTE: Bell - I'm getting some town pings, but I'm also getting some scum pings from this slot. I want pressure here to help sort. I don't know if it's because he's V/LA until Monday, but a lot of his posts feel like fluff and don't really contribute anything. Also not a fan of his intent to park a vote on Hiraki and not move it for the rest of D1.
Primarily for this post, which came after apparently doing a reread of the game and organizing his reads.
His previous pushes/votes read largely like he was going through the motions of asking a few questions but never really following up with how his read changed.
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:14 am
by PenguinPower
VOTE: Marashu
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:15 am
by Dannflor
If you do get a chance to read, maybe skim TripleHaven's ISO and see if you have an opinion on that slot being the leading wagon since early on in the game.
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:21 am
by PenguinPower
I mean - I have an opinion of that wagon simply because it's been the only major wagon so far.
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:04 am
by Dannflor
Hiraki and Dunnstal have both gotten to 3 votes at various times as well, but I don't think another wagon has grown larger than that
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:07 am
by Gamma Emerald
Sorry about my absence
Some other stuff caught my fancy for the past few days.
Will read (maybe) soon
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:11 am
by Marashu
In post 952, Bell wrote:And why are you declaring your intention?
Both so people can see my thought process and to air it out to help me evaluate it, in case there is something I'm either overlooking or reading too deeply into.
In post 1185, Bell wrote:Take it as a request to direct your attention there so I can see if i’m off base with my read of him then.
How is this different than what I said?
In post 1190, teacher wrote:And not blind. I actually think Maru is definitely within his scum register (though I’m not sure he has a town register)
So you should at least be somewhat aware that my town game would be underdeveloped compared to my scum game.
In post 930, Marashu wrote:VOTE: Bell - I'm getting some town pings, but I'm also getting some scum pings from this slot. I want pressure here to help sort. I don't know if it's because he's V/LA until Monday, but a lot of his posts feel like fluff and don't really contribute anything. Also not a fan of his intent to park a vote on Hiraki and not move it for the rest of D1.
What is your read on Hiraki? I don't really see a definitive stance by you on him
I'm curious why you'd be bothered by a vote on someone you haven't really sorted yet
Hiraki's tough to read, but my impressions are the AtE does not really sit well with me. That said, I really agree with 925. It could be SvS (different teams - I don't think they're the same team) or maybe it isn't, but it at the very least was more helpful to town than I feel Jake has been.
Basically, I saw that we had a week left. I had a slot that I was having a hard time with. I was choosing to use that time to try and work out that slot. If we'd rather try to end the day early and use the flip to get information, then that's also worthwhile.
VOTE: Jake - E-1
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:20 am
by Bell
I see, what do you think of the votes on you?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:23 am
by Dunnstral
In post 1200, Jake The Wolfie wrote:"Even if I were either a Sinner or a Werewolf, why wouldn't the other team ote me? It would reflect grandly on them, no?"
Not sure what this argument is supposed to be? Can you argue that you're not a sinner or a werewolf instead of saying the other team is pushing you
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:24 am
by PenguinPower
In post 1209, Marashu wrote:If we'd rather try to end the day early and use the flip to get information, then that's also worthwhile.
What informationdo you think we're going to get out of the flip that's worth ending the day early?
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:25 am
by Dunnstral
I didn't think jake's predecessor was scummy, not he's acting like bait for the elimination
In post 1209, Marashu wrote:...Basically, I saw that we had a week left. I had a slot that I was having a hard time with. I was choosing to use that time to try and work out that slot. If we'd rather try to end the day early and use the flip to get information, then that's also worthwhile.
VOTE: Jake - E-1
"Pray tell, what information would you get from me, exactly?"
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:53 am
by Menalque
well like, ur alignment would show bro, so we'd know if you were town or scum
In post 1109, Menalque wrote:if Jake flips scum: I get killed tomorrow and am freed from this game and Dramonic and hiraki look really dumb for calling me scum and I get to crow about how if town they were totally wrong
This doesn't even make any sense AT ALL.
How ON EARTH would they "look really dumb" provided Hake flips SCUM??? And how would they be "totally wrong" in this case, even if you flip town next?
Listen, this has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS GAME specifically, but your playstyle is weird and you seem to always manage to get dig yourself ditches that you then struggle to get out of.
First: You ONLY trust your own reads, and it's hard for you to see thing from someone else's PoV (even if they were mod-confirmed).
Second: You go "all in" on one read which makes you look really bad if they flip green.
Third: This here quote looks very much like it could be designed to fall back to when/if hake flips scum. "Would I have said that as scum who knew Jake would flip scum? Why would I suggest we kill me next when the team is of only 2, thus we get eliminated?"
I am NOT saying this is the case. I am pointing out it "could be" and you seam to always do stuff like that (my past experience with you).
But that's only of Jake flips scum. What if he flips town? You sill look worse than anyone who pushed him, and -certainly- anyone that defended him and refused to vote him.
In short: If you're town, you're not helping. If you're scum, you're doomed.
I do apologize if this comes across as a harsh attack, but trust me.. if I was scum here it's be VERY EASY for me to set you up as the next elimination regardless. I won't even care if you were on the opposing team, because the push on you would be so easy it makes sense to come from just about ANYONE at all.
Again, SORRY. I just.. like your company but not at all your play "as of late". (I guess that's as close as I can phrase it without actually crossing the lines)
I think you have like a really flawed view of how I approach games, and I think saying that I only trust my own reads is indicative of that because that's like, deeply not true
it probably would be quite easy to set me up as the next miselim tbh because I no longer care about this game so I won't argue with that
you maybe have a point that I look like I'm going "all in" on a read when I'm not, but sadly a lot of people miss the nuance
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:05 pm
by Menalque
oh ffs I meant to delete the quote so it wouldn't take up so much space
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:19 pm
by Jake The Wolfie
In post 1219, Menalque wrote:well like, ur alignment would show bro, so we'd know if you were town or scum
"That is a non-answer to my question. How would my alignment be more informative than, say, executing Penguin?"
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:20 pm
by Menalque
well I guess we'd also get the alignments of whoever gets NK'd so then we'd have that info too
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:25 pm
by Gamma Emerald
That would also happen if you voted out Penguin :susseyes:
