Silent Star 2: Menagerie

[Hectic]

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Votecount 1.17

[4] PookyTheMagicalBear:

drusilla, Isis, Loki Dokie, Kanna

[3] Isis:

PlusJOYED, Not_Mafia, PookyTheMagicalBear

[2] Not Voting:

Ydrasse, Tayl0r Swift

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to execute. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to execute.
The deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-20 19:59:58).

Joint Mod ISO.

[Isis]

I want to note that N_M isn't hammering here and no majority gives mafia control

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you trying to get him to hammer me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

or do you suspect him as scum?

[Isis]

No, I wanted to point out something that in 3 hours I won't have the posting privileges to point out. It has a collateral risk of incentivizing N_M to hammer but from my PoV that's not strategically negative, only maybe emotionally negative
pedit: yeah I am suspecting him as scum.
It works even if you're town but especially if you're scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It feels like you're trying to manipulate NM into hammering me here.

esp since NM hammered me during the first condemn phase before we knew it didn't mean the same as execution.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait you think NM and I are scum/scum and he's not hammering me for it? I thought you were thinking Ydrasse/TS were the scum earlier?

[Isis]

I gave you a list of three and NM was featured, it's not a large distance of shift. His disengagement this game has looked bad

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This feels very hammer-baity, like you're almost saying to NM if you don't hammer Pooky here I will come after you for it tomm and trying to pin S/S relationship on Pooky/NM when he's already hammered me once today. This doesn't fit with Town!Isis who thinks TS/Ydrasse are scum

[Isis]

it's probably more likely we're both town nand N_M just wants to invert the democracy and condemn you later

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I gave you a list of three and NM was featured, it's not a large distance of shift. His disengagement this game has looked bad

Yes but what you said about NM/me being S/S and him not hammering me because he's S with me is a large shift from TS/Ydrasse and it doesn't make sense because NM already hammered me once this game..

[Tayl0r Swift]

im happy to hammer here if needed.

[Isis]

if he doesn't hammer here I will die. Ydrasse doesn't usually log on in the next two hours.

N_M is killing me here and I want everyone to pay attention that he has been onsite during this time

[Isis]

well, shouldve peditted, but don't you scumread me taylor?

[Isis]

I gave you a list of three and NM was featured, it's not a large distance of shift. His disengagement this game has looked bad

Yes but what you said about NM/me being S/S and him not hammering me because he's S with me is a large shift from TS/Ydrasse and it doesn't make sense because NM already hammered me once this game..

it's irrelevant N_M hammered you because it's NM. I saw him hammer his partner before they could post day1 of a micro with mild suspicion once

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so why would NM not hammering me here be noteworthy if he does it to his own scumpartners?

[Isis]

if you read my posts on this page i've been primarily concerned with what it says about N_M's alignment, and the secondary impacts of what it says about your alignment has only been drawn out by your asking me leading questions about it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What does it say about his alignment? Doesn't NM hammer as scum also?

[Isis]

Did you mean "hammer as town also"? I think it is extremely scummy that he isn't here to hammer

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It feels like to me you are trying to bait NM into hammering me and I'm not sure why Town!Isis would do that at this point. I'm fairly certain I'm dead here either by hammer or mafia shooting me - if the mafia kill you and you flip town the POE is too narrow for the mafia to have a chance at winning this game.

[Isis]

Like he would normally be checking this game to see if he would get to hammer the other wagon, as both alignments, but the way this game has gone disinterest makes more sense if he's scum, and he cares about winning a fifth of his games based on some kind of random function so wanting to do the scum control the vote thing could explain the deviation

it's actually probably more likely he's just very afk disengaged scum actually though

[Isis]

why would I not want someone to vote the same person I'm voting?

I feel like we're talking past eachother or am I missing something about what's upsetting you. You know there's two hours left before the mafia control the vote, right? There's actually colorable arguments for self hammering actually

[Isis]

if this actually makes me more miscondemnable I should maybe selfhammer with taylor

taylor does this page make me look a lot scummier than pooky?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm kind of worried about you now because it feels to me like you are trying to get NM to hammer me rather than an actual belief that NM is a bad guy here because he hasn't hammered me.

Like Pooky getting lynched here is obviously a better result than Pooky getting killed by Mafia controlling the lynch for Scum!Isis but not for Town!Isis.

It feels to me like there's no chance you get lynched here as Ydrasse is awol so why would you be baiting NM?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if this actually makes me more miscondemnable I should maybe selfhammer with taylor

taylor does this page make me look a lot scummier than pooky?

ok this I really don't get. Why are you asking someone you are scum-reading for an opinion on whether you should self-hammer?