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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:18 am

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Battle Mage [4]
OutWorldER flea the magician DrippingGoofball blitzo
No Elim [2]
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:20 am

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In post 1127, Taly wrote:also who is Blitzo? i demand everybody who reads this post to say "Blitzo is town/scum/?" so I can gauge how many wagons this gamestate actually wants to have...
I'm warily leaning blitzo town
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:20 am

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UNVOTE:
may consider voting something else in a while
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:25 am

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In post 1198, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 1179, Titus wrote:Can we move on to no elimination and compliance? I am bored and this feels like an RVS that will last forever.
This is an attitude I see both you and BM spouting and it's just like:

People have solid reads, wagons are being started, people are pushing.

Were also only 3 days into deadline.

How the fuck does this possibly feel like RVS? Why are you so quick to end the day; even if your going with Pooky's plan, there's still a lack of claims so ending the day early with a No Elim vote would be awful?
No one can die. No one should die. Therefore, these votes are meaningless.

We just have me take a task and force BM to take a task after ensuring no one dies. Provided I don't fuck up tomorrow, it leaves us in a great position.

That's the proper play IMO. I have said it a million times.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 am

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Yeah but if we can't convince at least a majority of the town then it doesn't amount to anything.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:29 am

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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:32 am

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In post 1204, Akarin wrote:Yeah but if we can't convince at least a majority of the town then it doesn't amount to anything.
I think most of the town is on board. We're just dealing with a vocal minority, thanks to Reck. I think even those voting are on board with the grouping plan.

My action is already decided. Aside from watching, I don't see anything protown to do.
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:41 am

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DGBs ISO is pretty much "kill BM, get people to vote with me or they are scum" etc.

Also I saw someone attach lurksack to BM (I think Cakez and Flea added to this but I don't know the context) and I am floored by this because the game has been going for less than 3 days

Needless to say, the lack of people creating condensed cases for the current wagons does little to persuade me.

Also Blitzo is an interesting ISO. Little content aside from just nearly disagreeing with things and trading BMs life in this game for a conversation with DBG...

I don't know why Akarin and Murdercat are even a thing re: last page.

I want Titus to explain her meta takes and evaluate their strength openly. I think her frustration to DGB is sincere and I want to lean in on the way she approaches this plist read wise.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:43 am

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You wouldn't be scum again would you taly
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:43 am

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In post 1207, Taly wrote:trading BMs life in this game for a conversation with DBG...
eh?
also re: lurksack BM he's been posting but for context he had like 200 posts a few hours into xenoblade 2 mafia and had posted 2 times the amount of the next highest poster
so this is contrasted just off of that, but I don't believe in raw activity reads, same with how I read creature, it's about the content of the posts as well.
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:46 am

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In post 1207, Taly wrote:I don't know why Akarin and Murdercat are even a thing re: last page.
Did you not see my reason for voting or do you not agree or do you not understand it?
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:47 am

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In post 1208, MURDERCAT wrote:You wouldn't be scum again would you taly
I don't think she is
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:50 am

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In post 1208, MURDERCAT wrote:You wouldn't be scum again would you taly
Does this post serve a purpose?
In post 1209, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1207, Taly wrote:trading BMs life in this game for a conversation with DBG...
eh?
also re: lurksack BM he's been posting but for context he had like 200 posts a few hours into xenoblade 2 mafia and had posted 2 times the amount of the next highest poster
so this is contrasted just off of that, but I don't believe in raw activity reads, same with how I read creature, it's about the content of the posts as well.
Talking about how Blitzo hopped on BM wagon because DGB prodded him to votepark somewhere.
In post 1210, Akarin wrote:
In post 1207, Taly wrote:I don't know why Akarin and Murdercat are even a thing re: last page.
Did you not see my reason for voting or do you not agree or do you not understand it?
1st and 3rd. Explain it?

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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:53 am

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In post 1212, Taly wrote:Does this post serve a purpose?
nope
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:55 am

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In post 1164, Battle Mage wrote:lol i'll give you kudos...

...for the most bad-faith, scummy ISO-analysis I've ever seen. :lol: Like, taking every post I made and trying to construe it in a scummy way is not genuine solving. Poor effort.

VOTE: flea
In post 887, Flea The Magician wrote:o(^▽^)o DIVA FLEA ISO FUN TIME! o(^▽^)o
Spoiler: Our Jester
In post 22, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 8, Gamma Emerald wrote:Alright. I wanna start off with an RQS this game. Questions are as follows:

1) what power role have you not been that you want to try out, and why? Don’t factor in your current role, answer this question assuming you are vanilla this game.
2) If you were scum, who would be your a) D1 miselim push, b) N1 kill, and c) partner you’d want to bus you and go to the end, given each person was the correct alignment for that specific action?
3) What is your skill with mechanic-heavy setups? If you’re not skilled at them, do you intend to get better with practice or rely on others?
4) What is your favorite candy?
5) What would you say is your biggest strength and biggest weakness as town/scum/in general?
1. I'd like to be cult leader in a game where my entire cult didn't bus me to death.
2.a. probably you b. probably Titus c. Pooky or DGB
3. Generally bad, but I played a similar game to this recently. I was so bad I somehow managed to die twice before anyone else had died. But it was so fun!!
4. Candy bad.
5. Biggest strength as town = pretty much never getting mis-elimmed. Biggest strength as scum = mostly winning because my bad reads are a benefit
HE DOESN'T LIKE CANDY?! LIKE WHAT?!
Also, check out number 5. Never getting mislim'd and having bad reads. hmmm...
In post 32, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 27, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 23, Battle Mage wrote:what happens to tasks when ppl die though? do we have to do fewer tasks?
when people die their tasks get distributed we can figure out a good system for this later.
ah in that case, yeah i like the no-elim plan. I have fewer tasks than you I think.
Mech talk, and hinting at something? Maybe this is just out of context.
In post 39, Battle Mage wrote:I have 1 I think. I go to a room, then I do my task.
Not quite as bad a fart as what HC dropped, but this still stinks to me ║ * ರ Ĺ̯ ರ * ║ also Spongebob doesn't approve.
In post 67, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: Murdercat
MY EYES! THEY BURRRRN! SOMEONE PUT SOME CLOTHES ON THIS VOTE! (ʘ ل͟├┬┴┬┴
In post 90, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: XreckonerX
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In post 104, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 97, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 92, SirCakez wrote:well outing the locations is good and bad
good because we can make a plan
bad because scum can mess with that plan presumably
maybe but i'd rather have the entire game leashed so people dont wander off and murder each other in the room they shouldn't be in
I'm with you bud!!
Adding nothing...

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In post 105, SirCakez wrote:
MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 92, SirCakez wrote:well outing the locations is good and bad
good because we can make a plan
bad because scum can mess with that plan presumably
Lol are you actually scum cake
you think outing everything now is good? I see too much risk
we've started now dude. I'm totally down with elimming in the pool of those who won't claim if we have such a thing.
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In post 114, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 108, Alisae wrote:tbh if Battle Mage kills me in electrical
I'm happy with that
don't worry, you can trust me ;)
Nope.
In post 129, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: no elim

i'm on the board
No that's a plank. ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)
In post 145, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 144, Titus wrote:
In post 35, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:should we all claim task number? i see no reason not to

I have 2
I have one.
I plan on doing mine asap so I can pick up one of the other tasks and then do it.
I like your style Titus. I was planning on doing mine, and then kicking back on Night 2 :lol:
I don't like this. Like I really don't like this. (๑•﹏•)
In post 156, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 152, Titus wrote:
In post 118, Battle Mage wrote:I feel pretty relaxed with Pooky in charge - he knows how to do this game.
Wait you relaxed with someone else in charge?
Completely! the last time we played a game similar to this I got singled out and killed by scum immediately. Pooky didn't realise I was dead and tried to rescue me....dying himself in the process.

He knows that people getting picked off sucks, and is coming up with a plan to avoid that. Total townvibes.
Or this... This is scum vibes to me. This is "I'mma coast and let other people do the hard work" and with the last post, doesn't sit well with me.
In post 191, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 189, Alisae wrote:Battle Mage has 1 task so it should be fine.
I can also go w/ Battle Mage so you feel safer, I have a 2nd task but I don't mind it if it would make you feel safer
I'm not planning to go anywhere without 3/4 people minimum. :lol:
This is interesting...
In post 37, Battle Mage wrote:i guess the alternative to all moving in a pack would be for people to pair up - easy way to identify scum.
And this is why. I'm getting a people pleaser vibe here.
In post 153, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 148, Titus wrote:
In post 70, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 64, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:every1 claim what rooms you need for your tasks

i will excel it and figure out optimal pathing

alisae will probly do it faster and better
electricity room?
In post 71, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:wait you really only have 1 room to go to?
Same and it happens to be the same room.

So it looks like BM and I are sharing a room for the night.
goshdarn Titus, are you going to kill me? :lol:
But isn't Alisae there too?
In post 198, Battle Mage wrote:this will be a strange mafia game where no scumhunting is required :lol:
*shudders*
Maybe this is just in the context I'm looking at where I'm getting the vibes of the scums but this REALLY isn't feeling right to me now.
In post 203, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 201, Alisae wrote:I think allowing the opportunity for scum to get an extra kill is important
we also shouldn't be sending anyone that's too important if we do try to create opportunities for scum to kill. Town can benefit off of a townie that needs to be sorted dieing.

I'm not sure on this though.
if we're just going to do the tasks and win, does sorting even matter though?
Like we've said why we still need to sort people but he's hesitant to be sorted it seems?

I dunno, I feel like I'm in a rabbit hole at this point and everythings just going to go "I'M SCUM!" at me? (¤﹏¤)
In post 206, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 204, Akarin wrote:
In post 195, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it doesnt matter if someone needs to be in a room two nights in a row. the point of leashing the entire PL is that nobody can wander off and kill you when u r in that room alone on night 2
I meant in terms of how many nights it make take to complete. We can't just visit X number of rooms each night and cover each room on 1 night.

Maybe not enough people have combinations like mine for it to matter, but wanted to claim this before we get too far.

Also splitting into smaller groups where the towniest players are paired makes sense, but if scum have a regular NK they can potentially frame people.
ah i hadnt thought about the framing thing. do the kills take place at the same time though?
Honestly, have you given this game any thought? :/
In post 213, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 205, Alisae wrote:Like I'm not okay with obvtown getting killed via the extra kill mechanic, so it would be someone that town would be okay with dieing.

pedit: I mean I think we can try to go for a task any% speedrun but I think if we get handed a free scum lynch we should take it?
agree if it's on a plate due to a cop investigation or something, but otherwise I'm not keen on us elimming through half-assed scumhunting when we are all handicapped with post restrictions and the like.
Half assed is better than none.
In post 214, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 211, Bell wrote:Wait, wait, wait.
Is there even any hunting in this game.
i think that's what we're trying to establish now mate. My guess is, maybe not.
uh.... you were pretty set on no scumhunting not so long ago?
In post 216, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 215, SirCakez wrote:suddenly I want to yeet Flea for making my page size double
and also for doing the RQS thats gross
not to mention calling me scum coz i claimed my room :lol:
"electrical?" seems questioning and not like a claim. I just get bad vibes from you... also wow I'm only on page 9?
In post 262, Battle Mage wrote:UNVOTE:

I think I still want to wield the stick of elimming someone who refuses to claim.
We got more reasoning for the unvote than we have for both votes?
In post 558, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: titus
In post 653, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: Haschel
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In post 666, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 660, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 654, Alisae wrote:Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment
Is this free reign to just run around the ship like a lunatic? ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)
In post 655, Alisae wrote:Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus
Cautious at the moment, People are saying she's more vote and wagon driven, but she's not doing much in that way.
In post 656, Battle Mage wrote:are we really moving away from the idea of a systematic and cohesive team approach, to a free-for-all?
Maybe. Why? What'cha thinkin ( ͝סּ ͜ʖ͡סּ)
i think that would be a stupid idea
... Why?
In post 735, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 700, Alisae wrote:something feels off
what do you think of Titus and Haschel?
In post 702, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:they both feel red to me

titus more so
concur
Why?
In post 756, Battle Mage wrote:if i sleep now, hopefully this will all have blown over in the morning...
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In post 769, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 765, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you guys should definitely do all the posting done today you want to do

cuz tommorrow is going to be comically badly post restricted lolol

nobody fuck up their tasks pls
can we finish the massclaim and go to night then? seems like we're not achieving much else.
You haven't exactly contributed yourself.
In post 831, Battle Mage wrote:you're planning to elim me today so does it matter? :lol:
I still hate this attitude...
In post 832, Battle Mage wrote:no idea why, i'm obvtown here. :facepalm:
No... no you're not. Why do people think they're obvtown? Like fine you know your PM but to me you're closer to obvscum than obvtown, honestly.
In post 838, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 837, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 831, Battle Mage wrote:you're planning to elim me today so does it matter? :lol:
It's only 2 days into deadline.

When did I ever say I wanted you to be the elim?
you're literally campaigning to get ppl to vote for me.
Maybe so there's pressure on you to actually contribute?
In post 847, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: No Elim
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├┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┤ . o O ( I have a really bad feeling it will never be safe to come out of here...
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VERDICT

Happy keeping my vote here for now.
I stream my thoughts as I read through. It's as simple as that. I've not tried to twist every post as scummy, far from it. but offered my thoughts on the matter and if people want to oppose it, they can. I'm an open book here (^_^)

If you decide to challenge my read on you in any way that isn't an OMGUS vote, you're welcome to start answering some of the points and things I questioned in there <3

The one thing you could have pulled in your favour, is that I didn't actually give a read, just that I was happy my vote being there and looking opportunistic.
The read at the end of that was SL btw, and is still where my read is.
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:55 am

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In post 1213, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1212, Taly wrote:Does this post serve a purpose?
nope
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 1183, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think we need to start eliming in the no room claim pool


we can probly hit bad guys

and if they're townies we were never going to win this game

VOTE: Reck

my tolerance for gamethrowing is gone
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In post 1192, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1185, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if reck flips red here it proves our no-elim plan can probly win the game
And if he's green you think .. what?
Like I don't think 2 kills tonight is that bad considering I think we will get info from the kill and it is basically the same as miselim > normal kill.
Then we would've have won anyway according to pooks.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 1183, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think we need to start eliming in the no room claim pool


we can probly hit bad guys

and if they're townies we were never going to win this game

VOTE: Reck

my tolerance for gamethrowing is gone
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In post 1192, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1185, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if reck flips red here it proves our no-elim plan can probly win the game
And if he's green you think .. what?
Like I don't think 2 kills tonight is that bad considering I think we will get info from the kill and it is basically the same as miselim > normal kill.
Then we would've have won anyway according to pooks.
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:06 am

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lost anyway... why is my brain like this x.x
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:10 am

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Ok I'm tired downplaying myself to get people grouping with me or seeing how sincere people read me.

This nonstop mech talk has only made it more difficult for me to read players and no conclusion has come from it whether mech or solving standpoint.

If you want to group, requote this list in a chain
If you don't then cool
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:10 am

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In post 1219, Taly wrote:If you want to group, requote this list in a chain
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:13 am

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VOTE: DippingGoofball

I want to start here. Undeveloped thoughts from this slot.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:13 am

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In post 1220, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 1219, Taly wrote:If you want to group, requote this list in a chain
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:20 am

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In post 1212, Taly wrote:
In post 1210, Akarin wrote:
In post 1207, Taly wrote:I don't know why Akarin and Murdercat are even a thing re: last page.
Did you not see my reason for voting or do you not agree or do you not understand it?
1st and 3rd. Explain it?
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In post 1152, Akarin wrote:
In post 1135, MURDERCAT wrote:I don't think we have enough info to decide either way so people should just do what they want. I think this is better than random because some people want to group. I think scum will get an extra kill off tonight but what can you do.
Not have everyone just do what they want.

2 NKs is 2 NKs. Someone making a personal choice to gamethrow isn't better than just... not doing that.
In post 1162, MURDERCAT wrote: I'm not convinced it is a game throw is the thing and I'm not convinced that grouping prevents an extra NK. I believe it is the better choice but I don't think it's fair to suggest that not giving up info is unilaterally worse.
In post 1163, Akarin wrote:If there's a sabotage that allows scum to overcome grouping (Lights?) why should we assume it's not better to force them to use that rather than giving them the NK and the ability to use another sabotage.

Seems reasonable to assume they can't use all the sabotages at once, just like in Among Us. Do you disagree?
In post 1165, MURDERCAT wrote:
I agree and pretty much already said the same thing
In post 1166, Akarin wrote: You said the same thing except you refuse to take a stance and keep saying everyone should just do what they want anyway.

"Scum will just get an extra kill tonight, what can you do?"

We could not make it easy for scum to get an extra kill.
In post 1172, Akarin wrote:Murdercat basically agrees with the logic but doesn't care about the result, and doesn't want to agree too strongly.
In post 1173, MURDERCAT wrote:I was like one of the first people to claim
In post 1180, MURDERCAT wrote:And you are acting like I am tip toeing when I have clearly been in favor of claiming the whole time. Have you even claimed your rooms yet? What I'm not convinced of is that we know enough about the setup to force others to agree, because basically the only way to do this is to threaten to vote them out otherwise. I think that not wanting share info is a reasonable position a townie might have and so I'm not in favor of voting people out if they don't comply. And if we aren't willing to do that then there is no way to actually get people to group how we want.
In post 1182, Akarin wrote: Because you are tip toeing around taking a stance that could upset anyone, or pressure anyone into doing things that are good for town.

You basically agree it's good for town, but then don't care if people do it at all. And then undermine that point with bad arguments that have already been made and debunked
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:22 am

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Giant quote pyramids are ugly and stupid and I won't participate in them because of handwaving and grumpiness.

But I think my stance is clear.
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