From the moment you entered the game, this read never changed.
I do not understand the certainty here.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:24 am
by clidd
It seems to me that you decided that the slot is scum and then interpreted all his posts from that conclusion.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:28 am
by Infinity 324
Gimli's play hasn't changed much, and neither has my feeling around it. As I said before, my d1 scumreads tend to be accurate, so I like to hold onto them unless something major happens to change my read
I was hesitant to consider Dk scum by PoE, because I'm not scumreading the slot, but when I reflect on their reasons for suspecting me, they don't seem congruent with the various scummy things I said and did. He did not mention at any time the inconsistencies that Ahsoka pointed out, for example. Which makes me think that town!Dk would have jumped at me with 1001 reasons a long time ago.
Scumreading me because of gut or '' being complacent'' is very vague and do not make use of the material that town!Dk has available to analyze on me.
I very much agree with this analysis of Koba. Especially since I have seen several of their towngames and they have a very competent town-game.
In post 1198, clidd wrote:Amélie scumreading Raya is ''??'' and I'm not sure if I understand her.
But Radja was townreading Raya and perhaps the fact that there is disagreement between predecessor (Radja) and successor (Amélie) is a suggestive indication of the non-existence of a scum PT for scum!Amélie find out about her predecessor's reads before building her own.
pedit: No, stop.
I also agree with this take on Amelie. Another thought I was having was around the scum!agenda of pushing me. I can't think of anything. I don't even think it makes much sense as a towncred push either. Especially considering how she is pushing me. It makes no sense from scum.
In post 1199, clidd wrote:Infinity, you are not facilitating my read on you.
It is very unlikely that Gimli is scum. You're pushing town now.
Interesting word choice. Infinity does something scummy, you say he isn't "facilitating" your read on him. Makes it sound like you're trying to townread him rather than read him.
Infinity's points are stronger in this 1v1.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:34 pm
by clidd
My ''facilitating'' is in the sense of enable.
It is very difficult to read the slot with this push that comes since his arrival.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:37 pm
by clidd
And I don't think he has any persuasive points that indicate that Gimli is scum individually.
My doubt was the fact that more than 3 slots shared some kind of doubt regarding Gimli, including Lostego (which was eliminated).
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:47 pm
by clidd
The thing is: why?
I see no merit in pushing such kind of narrative from scum!Infinity for so long.
But at the same time, the more I tighten my PoE, the more infinity appears in the scum zone.
Or I can just close my eyes and assume that there is some explanation outside of my vision, while focusing on what I already have in my town pool.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:53 pm
by Raya36
In post 1208, clidd wrote:My ''facilitating'' is in the sense of enable.
It is very difficult to read the slot with this push that comes since his arrival.
Hasn't he been pushing gimli the whole time though? This isn't new?
In post 1209, clidd wrote:And I don't think he has any persuasive points that indicate that Gimli is scum individually.
My doubt was the fact that more than 3 slots shared some kind of doubt regarding Gimli, including Lostego (which was eliminated).
Yeah, it at least means that it can't be a push fully driven from scum. I'm honestly not seeing Gimli as scum this game. It's possible I'm wrong but I'm honestly leaning towards the good faith scumreads on gimli being driven by paranoia as Gimli has been a louder player this game.