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[Gypyx]

Night 3 has ended... Morning Tweet has been found dead, she was

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Town Motion Detector

Welcome ! You are a

Town Motion Detector

Each night, you may target someone, if they performed any action and/or anyone else performed an action on them, you will be informed that motion was detected on your target

You win if the town survives to see all threats to them dead, you may find the game thread here

Day 4 starts now

[Gypyx]

Votecount 4.1

Not Voting (7) :

Menalque - petapan - Dwlee99 - Dragon of the West - Ydrasse - ta vera - Titanic

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to minus somsone, day 1 starts now and ends in (expired on 2021-08-13 04:20:06)

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[Menalque]

Oh peta

Oh buddy

[Menalque]

This is kind of an

Oof moment for you huh?

[Menalque]

Are you going to fight or would you like to concede?

VOTE: peta

[Menalque]

(I have a hard guilty, we can yeet in either order, but the game ends if we do it this way round)

[Menalque]

This is kind of an

Oof moment for you huh?

Sorry, didn’t mean to be a dick with this, but just sort of confused by why you didn’t kill me instead of Morning when you know I was checking in your group and knew I was the loud follower vs her being the motion detector, therefore meaning my guilties would be harder than hers

I was genuinely surprised to wake up, I thought for sure this was gonna be a game of “get to the right answer and die that night”

[Menalque]

I gotta say I think the setup was p heavily townsided tho

[Menalque]

I guess it’s ironic that if I had managed to catch up during the day and actually voiced suspicion of peta then I might have died last night in which case we’d be losing prob? Idk

Peta needed lims on 3 people, he knew titanic was prob getting checked last night so I guess he would have gone ta vera/dwlee -> kill me -> other of ta vera dwlee -> the check (prob titanic) NK -> 3p of peta/ydrasse/dwlee where they’re both prob viable mislims by then

[Menalque]

Wait I’m missing dragons there

Hmmmm

[ta vera]

VOTE: petapan
this game was so easy. i didn't have to do much at all.

[Menalque]

this game was so easy. i didn't have to do much at all.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Peta
Yea this seemed town-sided but the night actions were really good.

[Menalque]

I mean true, but the fact that scum were guiltied twice at night and had at most 1PR is a testament to why this was so townsided

I really think balance should be thought of as “everything town has, scum have a counter to if played correctly” and here they just... really didn’t? Like yes, icon going down hurt as did me not being mislimmable partly due to PR, but skitter might have been able to dig her way out if she’d had ninja or something or if they’d had a 1s rb to use last night maybe

Like there was almost no punishment from most of town power being revealed by mid-D2 and that’s a design flaw imo, although we obviously all know by this point that i think the NRG’s concept of balance is wildly divorced from reality

[Menalque]

Also, I’ve decided that I think I’ve earned the hammer here

UNVOTE:

[Menalque]

Also this(!!!) is why it was important to actually play yesterday and not just speedlim skitt! Without dwlee and dragons having to post I don’t think there was any chance of me getting to a space where I was willing to check peta over either of them, but as that day played out I felt better about both of them and less good about peta

To the point that once I reread him at night I realised my TR wasn’t founded in anything solid. Like I loved his opening post but he admitted it was pre-written and therefore NAI. The icon vote wasn’t a hard push, just a good vote and the wagon kind of sprung up after so he couldn’t really unvote if scum. Then I remembered how much I’d hated how he played around me when aristeia was calling me scummy. And I’d originally TR his support of me on D2, but when I started asking the question of “how is this any different to what scum would do if trying to pocket me and why is he not more paranoid of me being scum like other town players (eg morning) were even after I claimed?” added to the defence of dragons as town when I thought he was suuuuper scummy, and then I figured that was likely an attempt to preserve a good mislim slot for later or to get towncred if a green check on dragons came up

Idk how much of this is right, but I’m curious to hear once peta does turn up

[petapan]

ah son of a bitch, was worth a shot but i had to gamble

[petapan]

defense of dotw wasn't tactical but the rest is more or less correct - i felt i realistically would've townread his response to you there

[petapan]

you're gonna laugh when you find out what my fucking power role is

there were zero counterplays available to us at night

ZERO

[petapan]

VOTE: peta

[Dwlee99]

If it's disloyal visitor—

[Menalque]

Merci

VOTE: peta

[Menalque]

there were zero counterplays available to us at night

ZERO

Yah I’m really sorry the balance was fucked as per

I feel kinda bad about winning this, I wish they would sort the balance so that winning a mininormal doesn’t feel like a semi-foregone conclusion

[Menalque]

Loyal visitor was a great claim fwiw imo, made perfect sense as a town negative EV role (fucking with motion detector) while being weak enough that it being not verifiable it still seems to fit

[petapan]

I guess it’s ironic that if I had managed to catch up during the day and actually voiced suspicion of peta then I might have died last night in which case we’d be losing prob? Idk

Peta needed lims on 3 people, he knew titanic was prob getting checked last night so I guess he would have gone ta vera/dwlee -> kill me -> other of ta vera dwlee -> the check (prob titanic) NK -> 3p of peta/ydrasse/dwlee where they’re both prob viable mislims by then

the fact is you did voice suspicion right after the hammer, i thought killing you was a harder road because i'd have to argue one of ydrasse/ta vera wouldn't have killed tweet as a gambit, the mechanics of the plan gave no easy shot