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But then if I were scum I could make it seem like you tried to frame me by jailkeeping you

I'm definitely not saying this is the best way to organ ize our night actions, and I would be open to anyone else's suggestions (mainly because this has the glaring hole of not actually finding the scum, and also failing if either me or dweelee are pair scum), but for right now I think this is the best we have until Bingle bitch slaps me, tells me I'm wrong, and mechanically solves the game for us.

In post 1200, Dwlee99 wrote:But then if I were scum I could make it seem like you tried to frame me by jailkeeping you

This is a valid point.

Give me a few minutes to think about this.

Would it work if you jailkept STD, and I roleblocked Ru and Bingle?

If STD targeted me, then if you failed to act, STD could see if it was because of me or not. And if STD dies, then it must mean that you are scum, because I am not multitasking.

Hmm that might make sense

In post 1181, Loftwing wrote:Doesn't Bingle have that 1-shot Cop Finder? I'm not sure if they've used that yet.

I do still have a cop finder, but unless someone magically fakeclaimed not cop as cop in addition to someone claiming not protective as protective then it's pointless because I wouldn't get a result PM anyway. Finder action fails when not targeting the found role.

Actually, belay that. I double checked finder because I'd never used it before and it appears it does give (Cop/NotCop) results.

In post 1203, Loftwing wrote:Would it work if you jailkept STD, and I roleblocked Ru and Bingle?

If STD targeted me, then if you failed to act, STD could see if it was because of me or not. And if STD dies, then it must mean that you are scum, because I am not multitasking.

This is a viable course of action if we go with the risk a 2 person scumteam wrecking us route. I'm vaguely okay with going that route, tbh.

If we want to play it safe, you block cyrus instead of Ru, Ru gets another invest in tonight (either you or STD) and even if scum has a kill and two members we have another dayphase. It adds time to the win, and honestly I don't think either of you or Dwlee is scum at this point, which one of the two of you would have to be for us to lose going the aggressive route.

Ru would be slightly better off investigating Loft in the above case, I think.

What are you hoping to achieve here, with Ru investigating some more players?

In post 1207, Bingle wrote:

In post 1203, Loftwing wrote:Would it work if you jailkept STD, and I roleblocked Ru and Bingle?

If STD targeted me, then if you failed to act, STD could see if it was because of me or not. And if STD dies, then it must mean that you are scum, because I am not multitasking.

This is a viable course of action if we go with the risk a 2 person scumteam wrecking us route. I'm vaguely okay with going that route, tbh.

If we want to play it safe, you block cyrus instead of Ru, Ru gets another invest in tonight (either you or STD) and even if scum has a kill and two members we have another dayphase. It adds time to the win, and honestly I don't think either of you or Dwlee is scum at this point, which one of the two of you would have to be for us to lose going the aggressive route.

Ok we can do this but that means we need to VOTE: no elim

In post 1208, Bingle wrote:Ru would be slightly better off investigating Loft in the above case, I think.

I like this idea .

In post 1208, Bingle wrote:Ru would be slightly better off investigating Loft in the above case, I think.

I don't particularly understand why Mama Ru investigating me would help with the current game state. What are you hoping to accomplish here, exactly?

I guess it would be to see if I am lying about being a Doubled roleblocker, which would pretty definitively out me as being scum.

I can't shake the idea that muti task could let one lock up and kill. But that still leaves why wouldn't they kill. Unless ....

In post 1141, Dwlee99 wrote:The role has nothing to do with alignment here though

Yes but how often have you seen town dbl roleblock?

Cyrus, my child, any player here can have any role and be of any alignment. That's like the entire fucking point of the setup.

In post 1216, Loftwing wrote:Cyrus, my child, any player here can have any role and be of any alignment. That's like the entire fucking point of the setup.

I anit your child.

In post 1216, Loftwing wrote:Cyrus, my child, any player here can have any role and be of any alignment. That's like the entire fucking point of the setup.

Not the point. The point is how often is roleblock town. And if roleblock is town why. In order for you to fully block dw you would have to block him twice. Two roles two blocks . I have also seen a roleblock scum get block from role blocking and killing just by one jk but jk is jail cell. Where as roleblock just stoles a role. You can still roleblock some one but not save them. For example. Jack was roleblock by James and jack was killed by Jerry. How ever if jack was jail Kepth by John instead of being roleblock by James, Jerry couldn't kill jack becuse John saved him however John is a muti task jk so John then kills Jerry.

In post 1218, cyrus62 wrote:

In post 1216, Loftwing wrote:Cyrus, my child, any player here can have any role and be of any alignment. That's like the entire fucking point of the setup.

Not the point. The point is how often is roleblock town. And if roleblock is town why. In order for you to fully block dw you would have to block him twice. Two roles two blocks . I have also seen a roleblock scum get block from role blocking and killing just by one jk but jk is jail cell. Where as roleblock just stoles a role. You can still roleblock some one but not save them. For example. Jack was roleblock by James and jack was killed by Jerry. How ever if jack was jail Kepth by John instead of being roleblock by James, Jerry couldn't kill jack becuse John saved him however John is a muti task jk so John then kills Jerry.

But if James role locks John instead Jerry still kills jack and John kills Jerry.

I will give anyone a crisp 100 dollar bill if you can tell me what the I just read.

Anit you glade no one hydrens with me.

I can block cyrus again tonight if we go no lim

In post 1209, Loftwing wrote:What are you hoping to achieve here, with Ru investigating some more players?

In order for the role interactions to have worked out the way they did scum has to have fakeclaimed. Did I not demonstrate that? I'm pretty sure I demonstrated that.