With Scorpious & fiend pelts under my belt, I'd steamroll you if you are actually bold enough to leave me alive.
Please do feel free to lock, load and fire your none sustainable read on me housey <3
This is priceless.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:53 am
by House
In post 1202, Enchant wrote:Can i get answer from Scorpio and finally claim i will sleep but still peeking here?
I'm bussing all 3 of my partners.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:57 am
by House
It's worth noting that flea has zero paranoia about the possibility that I might be scum lining up eliminations.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:16 pm
by Flea The Magician
Titus whats your current thoughts on Scorpius btw?
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:16 pm
by Dwlee99
Okay so now house is with me
Wish this forum supported clown emojis
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:18 pm
by Flea The Magician
Yeah cause I'm that kind of player.
You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:18 pm
by Flea The Magician
And I'm not asking for proof, I'm asking you to case me. Or give some reasoning, cause these always amuse me :3
In post 666, Galron wrote:Enchant are you waiting around to quickhammer? I know I don't have a vote right now either, but this seems odd for you. I'm probably just going to vote Meg, but I want a claim. So if you're planning on an lol, I'm going to ask Meg to claim now.
I am more accurate with quickhammers after Gamma incident, and i don't want to hammer Meg.
In post 666, Galron wrote:Enchant are you waiting around to quickhammer? I know I don't have a vote right now either, but this seems odd for you. I'm probably just going to vote Meg, but I want a claim. So if you're planning on an lol, I'm going to ask Meg to claim now.
I am more accurate with quickhammers after Gamma incident, and i don't want to hammer Meg.
You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.
"Currently".
Until it serves your agenda to change your mind, that is.
If me calling you scum out of the wild blue yonder with no stated reasons (note that I didn't say "no reasons"after, just none stated) after not suspecting you at all up until this point doesn't make you wonder about me, what is it going to take?
In post 666, Galron wrote:Enchant are you waiting around to quickhammer? I know I don't have a vote right now either, but this seems odd for you. I'm probably just going to vote Meg, but I want a claim. So if you're planning on an lol, I'm going to ask Meg to claim now.
I am more accurate with quickhammers after Gamma incident, and i don't want to hammer Meg.
Something scum would be far more self-aware about.
This push is scummier than the hypocritical hammer.
So you’re good with people saying something and doing something completely different?
Yes or no works here..
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:19 pm
by Flea The Magician
In post 173, mastina wrote:We have three scum who submitted scum preference and then either refused to state their alignment preference (Cheeky, Meg) or lied about it and said they had town preference. (Technically, they could lie and say 'no preference', but I've reason to believe that everyone who claimed 'No Preference' is actually town here, just off of who the names claiming no preference are. I don't think scum truthfully claimed no preference given Enchant, and I don't think scum lied about it being no preference given who the names are and basic psychology in mafia play in that mafia would be afraid to claim 'no preference' if they thought that claiming no preference would make them more likely to be seen as a scum candidate.)
Spoiler: Notes
TOWN
PREFERENCE:
mastina
House
Scorpious
Yume
Greeting
Flea the Magician
CheekyTeeky (after much resistance)
ɀefiend
NO ALIGNMENT PREFERENCE:
Taly
Titus
Galron
SCUM
PREFERENCE:
Enchant? (Not sure if serious)
PREFERENCE NOT YET STATED:
MegAzumarill
[snippy snip]
Between the players having stated town and the player refusing to state a preference, we have 9/13 players.
So what this tells me:
Taly and Titus are town;
Galron is
probably
town.
If Enchant is town, which he probably is, then all three scum would be in those that didn't claim or claimed town.
Removing myself, that pool?
{House, Scorpious, Yume, Greeting, Flea the Magician,
CheekyTeeky
, ɀefiend,
MegAzumarill
}.
[snippy]
It gives us 3/7.5 names as scum from a narrowed list.
Not quite 50% odds of hitting scum, but 40% odds of hitting scum beats the default 25% we'd have otherwise (3/12).
And from this, we can get into the reads on players from that list.
{
House,
Scorpious
, Yume, Flea the Magician,
CheekyTeeky,
ɀefiend,
MegAzumarill
}
Cheeky's play looks like scum;
Meg's play looks like scum.
1
Even if both are scum, that'd leave 1/4 of the remaining prime suspects as candidates.
[Quote of Zefiends 174 snipped] This makes me lean town on zefiend.
Which leaves 1-3 scum in {House, Yume, Flea the Magician}.
I could see it being any of them, but while I can't read House worth a damn, loosely, I think his contributions are town. I think 102 was accurate regardless (if House is scum, he was the scum; otherwise, it's probably Meg), and find the Cheeky House vote there sus.
If I had to go gun to my head, I'd say that in {Yume, Flea, House}, towniest to scummiest it'd be House > Yume > Flea.
So right now, I'm thinking:
All 3 scum are in {
CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill,
House, Yume, Flea the Magician
};
2
CheekyTeeky and MegAzumarill
have a high chance of being scum;
House is less likely scum;
There's 1-2 scum in {Yume, Flea the Magician};
There's basically a guaranteed scum, 1-2, in {CheekyTeeky, MegAzumarill}
.
This post aged well.
1)This bit aged amazingly. But hey 2 of the peeps mentioned are in...
2) This which is basically a solve at this point. But you spend so much of the post flattering house and disregarding any sort of negative read on him.
3) This is a primary mechsolve focus on a uPick, I expect some mechsolve from Mastina, but not this much and definitely not influencing her reads as solidly as this.
Oh there was a fun thing I noticed here too. Will point it out later because it's just for fun. It kinda ties into my 3rd candidate and honestly if it's true I am going to lose so much respect for Mastina while giving her so much more because who the fuck does that. Anyway.
Btw there's a high chance of these all being town.
Four town voting a player.
If MegAzumarill is town, then it still gives information on the gamestate.
+Scorpious to that.
1
I genuinely think that the 5 main names on the wagon have a very high chance of being town.
1.5
Taly is definitely town; Titus is very strongly likely to be town; I maintain that both House and Scorpious are highly likely to be town.
I realize the scum killed CheekyTeeky when Cheeky was a mislim target and that both Cheeky and Meg were town.
But while I think that does necessitate a reassessment of prior assumptions, I don't believe the correct thing to do is "throw out all prior reads in favor of starting from scratch and immediately paranoia-scumread prior townreads".
2
I still believe my mechsolve was more right than not.
I still believe my townreads separate from mechanics were more right than not.
2.5
I will need to assess things more, but for a start?
{Galron, Enchant, Greeting, Flea the Magician, Dwlee, zefiend} is the initial sorting pool.
Greeting is very very very obviously town here, so should be removed (not to mention mechanics support this as town anyway).
3
{Galron, Enchant, Flea the Magician, Dwlee, zefiend} is the remainder.
I'm not really sure who the scum in there is, but I'll say that I have scumreads on both Flea and Dwlee here and my Galron townread has evaporated and literally the only thing keeping me from thinking Galron is scum is the mechanics-theory since without that I'd just lock the scumteam as {Galron, Flea, Dwlee}.
4
I still like Enchant as town for both my mechanics theory and Enchant's play, but it's not nearly as strong.
1
5
I do need to reassess, which is why I'm not casting a vote. Might not get around to reassessing tonight, but I'll be doing the dive into the probable scum here soon(TM).
ROCK CONCERT MOMVEMENT NUMBER 982: DESTROYING A POST. READY? GO.
This vote count and my modifications are relevant.
Number match the pinks above.
1) Ah yes, All four players on the wagon must be town despite that being a green flip and statistically you're looking at 1-2 scum on there.
1.5) After Meg's townflip you stick to that information and add a name to it. Curious. Also one of those names is you and seem far more keen than usual to force the impression that you're town. The reason I added the vote count is that by your process so far, Galron is absolutely scum based on vote counts.
2)One thing we agree on, those flips require you as a town player to reassess when you're doing here.
2.5) You didn't have independent reads. Your reads were influenced by your mech.
3)
*faepalm*
4) Your scumread on me was gut and PoE. 234 - and mechPOE. I will take a moment to challenge what you think I gain from openly claiming yes I tend to prefer mafia aligned games but I submitted town.
5) Speaking of mech, thought you were assessing outside of that?
I ain't even quoting 983 because I think you actually TMI'd. That is a big post and more mech which goes absolutely nowhere and does nothing. With that in mind, 984 is sus.
985 is also a lot of hot air. The mechanical and play solves have no difference really and if anything your mechanics spec reads like your play spec should and vice versa.
990 is cute. Because I've said I'm coming for your post, I'm scum. Mastina when do I ever come for you as scum? also (991) like I said, if I'm scum I pocket you here because your mech spec is a good thread filler and distraction.
You're covering a lot for Enchant, who while I respect as a scum player, I'm sure I remember them struggling to play scum.
As for your 3rd... well theres 2 candidates, one stronger than the other. And I fully expect the strong one to attempt to destroy and discredit me in every way possible again. >:)
Spoiler: Closing statement
Riding
hard
every
shooting
star
Come
to
life,
open
mind,
have
a
laugh
at
the
orthodox
Come,
drink
deep
let
the
dam
of
mind
seep
Travel
with
great
Élan,
dance
a
jig
at
the
funeral
I love that script... and that song... oh and made you look.
You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.
"Currently".
Until it serves your agenda to change your mind, that is.
If me calling you scum out of the wild blue yonder with no stated reasons (note that I didn't say "no reasons"after, just none stated) after not suspecting you at all up until this point doesn't make you wonder about me, what is it going to take?
One bad flip
*might*
do it, but I'm confident you're town here.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:22 pm
by Scorpious
By your logic a scummy play becomes not scummy because they should “know better?”
In post 666, Galron wrote:Enchant are you waiting around to quickhammer? I know I don't have a vote right now either, but this seems odd for you. I'm probably just going to vote Meg, but I want a claim. So if you're planning on an lol, I'm going to ask Meg to claim now.
I am more accurate with quickhammers after Gamma incident, and i don't want to hammer Meg.
In post 666, Galron wrote:Enchant are you waiting around to quickhammer? I know I don't have a vote right now either, but this seems odd for you. I'm probably just going to vote Meg, but I want a claim. So if you're planning on an lol, I'm going to ask Meg to claim now.
I am more accurate with quickhammers after Gamma incident, and i don't want to hammer Meg.
You don't scare me house, and I've no reason to paranoia you currently. I have 2 people to fill that 3rd slot in my solve and currently you are not one of them.
"Currently".
Until it serves your agenda to change your mind, that is.
If me calling you scum out of the wild blue yonder with no stated reasons (note that I didn't say "no reasons"after, just none stated) after not suspecting you at all up until this point doesn't make you wonder about me, what is it going to take?
One bad flip
*might*
do it, but I'm confident you're town here.
Deal.
Vote Scorpious. Help me push it through, and hold me singularly accountable for the outcome.
