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Let's kill a mason and then coroner to be sure

I don't wanna shut down rad's attempt on mech solving for the 2nd time now but who actually read 12058 and thought that yeah this is a good idea.

to sum that post up we're basically misliming a town(town!rad world)
wasting 2 coroner shots, bb's shot and tracker's shot all just to prove that mala is telling the truth about being a coroner which is nai.

In post 12099, Mislim Bait wrote:But bella is scum so it literally doesn't matter even if their claim make sense or not.
Since it's natural for scum to lie removing any doubts about their real role would be more beneficial.

I dunno what to tell you man. What does town gain from knowing Bella was a doc or not? Who cares? We'd learn more from Dunn. You may not have been around during the dunn discussions but we were all pretty confused by the 2 town kills n1 and knowing dunn's actual role could have helped clear things up. Ultimately we don't know if scum targeted dunn or frog n1 and that info could help us understand. I don't see what knowing bella's a doc or not really helps.

In post 12100, T-Bone wrote:Let's kill a mason and then coroner to be sure

I seriously hope this post is in jest. If not, you’re extremely lucky Pooky towncleared you.

In post 12103, butterflies wrote:

In post 12100, T-Bone wrote:Let's kill a mason and then coroner to be sure

I seriously hope this post is in jest. If not, you’re extremely lucky Pooky towncleared you.

he's joking/baiting i think lol

In post 12102, Rad wrote:

In post 12099, Mislim Bait wrote:But bella is scum so it literally doesn't matter even if their claim make sense or not.
Since it's natural for scum to lie removing any doubts about their real role would be more beneficial.

I dunno what to tell you man. What does town gain from knowing Bella was a doc or not? Who cares? We'd learn more from Dunn. You may not have been around during the dunn discussions but we were all pretty confused by the 2 town kills n1 and knowing dunn's actual role could have helped clear things up. Ultimately we don't know if scum targeted dunn or frog n1 and that info could help us understand. I don't see what knowing bella's a doc or not really helps.

Knowing scum's role would 100% be more important in the long run

In post 12104, Rad wrote:

In post 12103, butterflies wrote:

In post 12100, T-Bone wrote:Let's kill a mason and then coroner to be sure

I seriously hope this post is in jest. If not, you’re extremely lucky Pooky towncleared you.

he's joking/baiting i think lol

With him or Drap, I have a very difficult time being able to determine that. I think Pooky is really obvious town now and Drap seriously suggested we lim him before elo.

I would prefer to lim slots that I think could actually be scum.

In post 12101, Mislim Bait wrote:I don't wanna shut down rad's attempt on mech solving for the 2nd time now but who actually read 12058 and thought that yeah this is a good idea.

to sum that post up we're basically misliming a town(town!rad world)
wasting 2 coroner shots, bb's shot and tracker's shot all just to prove that mala is telling the truth about being a coroner which is nai.

It does a bit more than just catch Mala...

Drap confirms BB can target dead
Mala and OTH are pitted against each other's reads
BB talks to me to find out my role which could out Mala if Mala just isn't coroner at all
If scum cares about the plan, they should kill town!BB, and BB isn't being heavily town read this game so that's a wasted NK for them

Is it foolproof? Nope.

It's mechanically interesting though and accomplishes some things if everything goes to plan. Town can decide it's a bad idea though, that's fine. Also I think the plan is just dead now if OTH can't target during the day cause the result would come back before the plan could even take place.

In post 12101, Mislim Bait wrote:I don't wanna shut down rad's attempt on mech solving for the 2nd time now but who actually read 12058 and thought that yeah this is a good idea.

to sum that post up we're basically misliming a town(town!rad world)
wasting 2 coroner shots, bb's shot and tracker's shot all just to prove that mala is telling the truth about being a coroner which is nai.

Well most of it went over my head but what I did get out of it is that RAD’s probably town, so that much was super helpful.

In post 12107, Rad wrote:

In post 12101, Mislim Bait wrote:I don't wanna shut down rad's attempt on mech solving for the 2nd time now but who actually read 12058 and thought that yeah this is a good idea.

to sum that post up we're basically misliming a town(town!rad world)
wasting 2 coroner shots, bb's shot and tracker's shot all just to prove that mala is telling the truth about being a coroner which is nai.

It does a bit more than just catch Mala...

Drap confirms BB can target dead
Mala and OTH are pitted against each other's reads
BB talks to me to find out my role which could out Mala if Mala just isn't coroner at all
If scum cares about the plan, they should kill town!BB, and BB isn't being heavily town read this game so that's a wasted NK for them

Is it foolproof? Nope.

It's mechanically interesting though and accomplishes some things if everything goes to plan. Town can decide it's a bad idea though, that's fine. Also I think the plan is just dead now if OTH can't target during the day cause the result would come back before the plan could even take place.

-drap confirming that bb can target the dead doesn't mean anything just confirming their role.
-like you said bb could be scum
-mala could still be scum claiming their real role
-or mala could be town and everything is just wasted

we do all this or we could just let drap track someone and maybe they'll track another nk.

In post 12108, butterflies wrote:

In post 12101, Mislim Bait wrote:I don't wanna shut down rad's attempt on mech solving for the 2nd time now but who actually read 12058 and thought that yeah this is a good idea.

to sum that post up we're basically misliming a town(town!rad world)
wasting 2 coroner shots, bb's shot and tracker's shot all just to prove that mala is telling the truth about being a coroner which is nai.

Well most of it went over my head but what I did get out of it is that RAD’s probably town, so that much was super helpful.

I would agree with you if the plan was good but rad made this whole mech solve centered around them flipping town which looks kind of lamist
I'm having 2nd thoughts whether they really think that misliming themselves here as town!rad is beneficial for town. There's like little chance here that mala is lying about their role.

the timing of that post was also bad
both mala/malcolm were the top wagons when they said that
and they both scumread them
so why would they suggest a town!rad mislim?

Rad sounds fine up until 12058
and any mala/malcolm scum flip would also spew rad town
If it wasn't for these I would probably go there today

Yeah I agree. Mala is very likely telling the truth about her role.

In post 12109, Mislim Bait wrote:

In post 12107, Rad wrote:

In post 12101, Mislim Bait wrote:I don't wanna shut down rad's attempt on mech solving for the 2nd time now but who actually read 12058 and thought that yeah this is a good idea.

to sum that post up we're basically misliming a town(town!rad world)
wasting 2 coroner shots, bb's shot and tracker's shot all just to prove that mala is telling the truth about being a coroner which is nai.

It does a bit more than just catch Mala...

Drap confirms BB can target dead
Mala and OTH are pitted against each other's reads
BB talks to me to find out my role which could out Mala if Mala just isn't coroner at all
If scum cares about the plan, they should kill town!BB, and BB isn't being heavily town read this game so that's a wasted NK for them

Is it foolproof? Nope.

It's mechanically interesting though and accomplishes some things if everything goes to plan. Town can decide it's a bad idea though, that's fine. Also I think the plan is just dead now if OTH can't target during the day cause the result would come back before the plan could even take place.

-drap confirming that bb can target the dead doesn't mean anything just confirming their role.
-like you said bb could be scum
-mala could still be scum claiming their real role
-or mala could be town and everything is just wasted

we do all this or we could just let drap track someone and maybe they'll track another nk.

In post 12110, Mislim Bait wrote:

In post 12108, butterflies wrote:

In post 12101, Mislim Bait wrote:I don't wanna shut down rad's attempt on mech solving for the 2nd time now but who actually read 12058 and thought that yeah this is a good idea.

to sum that post up we're basically misliming a town(town!rad world)
wasting 2 coroner shots, bb's shot and tracker's shot all just to prove that mala is telling the truth about being a coroner which is nai.

Well most of it went over my head but what I did get out of it is that RAD’s probably town, so that much was super helpful.

I would agree with you if the plan was good but rad made this whole mech solve centered around them flipping town which looks kind of lamist
I'm having 2nd thoughts whether they really think that misliming themselves here as town!rad is beneficial for town. There's like little chance here that mala is lying about their role.

I centered it around myself because my role is completely unknown to anyone and I think mala's probably just lying here about coroner. We could target Luke but he's probably just neighbor. Also I'm probably a liability later in the game due to Bella/Bell/Luke. If Malcolm flips green I'm even moreso.

In post 12112, butterflies wrote:Yeah I agree. Mala is very likely telling the truth about her role.

I don't think so because the frog n4 makes no sense except for scum!mala being able to say their role without being counter claimed.

In post 12111, Mislim Bait wrote:the timing of that post was also bad
both mala/malcolm were the top wagons when they said that
and they both scumread them
so why would they suggest a town!rad mislim?

Rad sounds fine up until 12058
and any mala/malcolm scum flip would also spew rad town
If it wasn't for these I would probably go there today

Idk what to think anymore. Some of Mala’s posts do make sense.

Her frustration despite the godawful post could also possibly be townie frustration.

UNVOTE:

for now.

In post 12111, Mislim Bait wrote:the timing of that post was also bad
both mala/malcolm were the top wagons when they said that
and they both scumread them
so why would they suggest a town!rad mislim?

Rad sounds fine up until 12058
and any mala/malcolm scum flip would also spew rad town
If it wasn't for these I would probably go there today

Just throwing out possibilities for advancing in a reasonable way. I'm all for a Malcolm or mala wagon but I get why some people might be hesitant on either of those because I'm pushing both. I realized there could be a way to get some real info while resolving my liability so I ran with it. As per usual my more open thoughts get both hard town and hard scum read

In post 12114, Rad wrote:

In post 12112, butterflies wrote:Yeah I agree. Mala is very likely telling the truth about her role.

I don't think so because the frog n4 makes no sense except for scum!mala being able to say their role without being counter claimed.

She made some post about her being able to be tracked to a corpse and I don’t think that her coronering Frogs necessarily means she’s lying about her role.

Your argument would be more persuasive if you said she tracked someone else and is lying about it. I think she very likely is coroner, I just don’t know if it’s town.

Like Bella was likely telling the truth about being macho doc but she was probably lying about visiting you n1 instead of Math. So if Mala’s scum, she probably did coroner someone but it might be different players than she claimed.

She knows Drap’s a tracker so it’s also possible she actually did coroner Frogs.

My point is that you have a much more believable case on Mala!scum than Mala lying about being coroner.

In post 12077, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 12062, Off The Hook wrote:

In post 12045, Rad wrote:This is assuming oth doesn't have a role where the mod announces the result. I can't remember if that's the case with oth's outted role.

"one shot public corner" is my role

do you know what public means :rosejudge:

i kinda want to public coroner mathblade just to see if the dude is actually a neighbor

HE IS
RB neighbor

In post 12102, Rad wrote:

In post 12099, Mislim Bait wrote:But bella is scum so it literally doesn't matter even if their claim make sense or not.
Since it's natural for scum to lie removing any doubts about their real role would be more beneficial.

I dunno what to tell you man. What does town gain from knowing Bella was a doc or not? Who cares? We'd learn more from Dunn. You may not have been around during the dunn discussions but we were all pretty confused by the 2 town kills n1 and knowing dunn's actual role could have helped clear things up. Ultimately we don't know if scum targeted dunn or frog n1 and that info could help us understand. I don't see what knowing bella's a doc or not really helps.

BECAUSE JULIET IN LOST I COULD SEE HER BEING A MODIFIED JOAT OF SOME SORT

FUCK I THOUGHT THERE WAS MORE TO BELLAS ROLE

In post 11930, Malakittens wrote:Ceph is 1shot glad with the hated modifier
Math is a 1shot RB’r neighbor
Bella is a macho doc
Frog is 2shot role cop

In case anyone gives a fuck

I have a feeling that MB most likely used his rB on PD which is why he got a no result.

It makes logical sense.
Regardless of PD tracking Bella to the NK
That’s a reason why I’m hard clearing PD bc I know there was a scum rB which makes it mechanically clear for PD IMO

In post 12114, Rad wrote:

In post 12112, butterflies wrote:Yeah I agree. Mala is very likely telling the truth about her role.

I don't think so because the frog n4 makes no sense except for scum!mala being able to say their role without being counter claimed.

Lmafo just because you disagree with how I used my role doesn’t make me scum

In post 12106, butterflies wrote:

In post 12104, Rad wrote:

In post 12103, butterflies wrote:

In post 12100, T-Bone wrote:Let's kill a mason and then coroner to be sure

I seriously hope this post is in jest. If not, you’re extremely lucky Pooky towncleared you.

he's joking/baiting i think lol

With him or Drap, I have a very difficult time being able to determine that. I think Pooky is really obvious town now and Drap seriously suggested we lim him before elo.

I would prefer to lim slots that I think could actually be scum.

No let me clarify.

The reason you should ONLY and EXACTLY vote Pooky the day before XyLo is this:
1) Could be a wolf going through deepwolf Territory and Frog was right on Pooky
2) If Pooky is Town, T-Bone is confirmed town which forces mafia to either kill them or we get a free IC into XyLo which is very good for us.