Perfectionist Mafia - Resultas

[manho]

yes, i know it is not a great prove for me, but just something that worth noting.

[EtherealCookie]

The mafia tends to find crappy arguments to back himself up so that it looks like he's scum hunting. His arguments always have flaws, like the one I just pointed out right now. You can always designate who you'd like killed.

[MrSuave]

well manho, cookie here has a good point, so how is using scum reasoning ever good o___o? it is worth noting... but even if you were away... this is getting all WIFOMy. >_<

[manho]

but scum need to find the SK and lynch him, so scum's comment on SK is worth noting.

[EtherealCookie]

No, scum just needs to find SK and kill him. There are different ways other than lynching. Furthermore, I just pointed out a major flaw in the argument.

[MrSuave]

manho, you're about 90% on my lynch meter. cookie has a great point, and you're not helping yourself very much. I'm pretty sure you're scum, but I just want to be sure... now tell me. why is that worth noting in any way? why would they just announce that? and cookie is right, there's more than one way to kill an SK.

[manho]

it doesn't matter it is the scum that i was quoting. the thing that matter is the content, that i was in V/LA and the SK still make 2 kills. i know that the SK can send in future kills, but 2 future kills in a week V/LA? i really didn't expect day 3 end so early.

and look at day 5 kill on sanjay. i have sanjay in my town list for a really long time. why would i kill sanjay if i need the mafia die to win?

and you've read sanjay's quote that he thought i'm not the SK. if you are scum, who do you want to keep alive more than the one who thought you are town? i would have killed the confirmed town one instead.

and i'm scum for what reasons?

[EtherealCookie]

it doesn't matter it is the scum that i was quoting. the thing that matter is the content, that i was in V/LA and the SK still make 2 kills. i know that the SK can send in future kills, but 2 future kills in a week V/LA? i really didn't expect day 3 end so early.

...
If you know you are going to be V/LA, obviously you are going to make an entire list of who to kill. It's not hard logic.

and look at day 5 kill on sanjay. i have sanjay in my town list for a really long time. why would i kill sanjay if i need the mafia die to win?

Uhm. Because mafia can be lynched, and you want to take down a pro-town player?

and you've read sanjay's quote that he thought i'm not the SK. if you are scum, who do you want to keep alive more than the one who thought you are town? i would have killed the confirmed town one instead.

I don't understand.

and i'm scum for what reasons?

Voting pattern, and the fact Mr.Suave is confirmed town due to our Sigmuend Frued or whatever.

[manho]

From my perspective, the SK is definitely in the very small set

{EtherealCookie, dramonic}

. If you aren't me or any of those peeps, it is in the set

{EtherealCookie, dramonic, Sanjay}

.

just for your reference that cookie has a much greater incentive to kill sanjay. this is directed to MrSuave only.

[manho]

and look at day 5 kill on sanjay. i have sanjay in my town list for a really long time. why would i kill sanjay if i need the mafia die to win?

Uhm. Because mafia can be lynched, and you want to take down a pro-town player?

forgot that dram was supposed to be the last mafia and the SK need not kill the mafia. so cookie is right that the SK should take down a pro-town player.

and you've read sanjay's quote that he thought i'm not the SK. if you are scum, who do you want to keep alive more than the one who thought you are town? i would have killed the confirmed town one instead.

I don't understand.

if you, cookie, is the SK, of course you are, and sanjay said you are definitely not the SK, would you kill him? i know that the WIFOM thing is involved here, but sanjay would definitely vote cookie and i can get a win if i let sanjay alive, this is much better than using WIFOM as a defence.

and i'm scum for what reasons?

Voting pattern, and the fact Mr.Suave is confirmed town due to our Sigmuend Frued or whatever.

the question is directed to MrSuave. and you don't need to add in a "reason"-"voting pattern" as you are sure i'm SK if you are townie, and i'm sure you are SK for the reason that MrSuave is not the SK.

[Max]

I'm confirming I've read and not needed to prod up to this point. I don't think you need a votecount here.

[EtherealCookie]

if you, cookie, is the SK, of course you are, and sanjay said you are definitely not the SK, would you kill him? i know that the WIFOM thing is involved here, but sanjay would definitely vote cookie and i can get a win if i let sanjay alive, this is much better than using WIFOM as a defence

Of course I would, because what if I found him scummy? And even if he wasn't the scum, you'd still be hitting a pro-town player. It doesn't matter if he thought you couldn't be SK. People's opinions change often. Best to get rid of him while it doesn't look suspicious, right?

[MrSuave]

actually, when I've played scum I kept the anti me people around untill I could safly dispose of them. otherwise it traces back to me. but you know what. I'm going to go ahead and end this game full of shinanigans. cookie has convinced me enough.

vote: manho

*sigh* if I screwed the town, that's my bad D:

[EtherealCookie]

The wheel in the sky keeps on turning...

[manho]

actually, when I've played scum I kept the anti me people around untill I could safly dispose of them. otherwise it traces back to me. but you know what. I'm going to go ahead and end this game full of shinanigans. cookie has convinced me enough.

vote: manho

*sigh* if I screwed the town, that's my bad D:

there is no use keeping anti-you people alive! they won't change their mind and will vote you no matter what!

i really hope that i am the SK. i can kill you and get the win easily.

[Max]

"You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot, happy christmas my arse I thank god it's our last"

The song had a somewhat dual meaning, it was indeed the last, the last for all the good in the world as the dastardly

EtherealCookie

dared to stab manho. Upon searching the house later that day

MrSuave

discovered the decision was the wrong one...

Manho, Vanilla Townie, Lynched Day 6

MrSuave, Vanilla Townie, End-Gamed

As there was only one player remaining it was safe to say that the Cookie has Risen but not crumbled in a devestating finale.

All Actions

Good play from Cookie all the way through I felt. Hard for a:

EtherealCookie, Serial Killer, Winner

Hope everyone enjoyed the game I would like feedback on "Free Prodding" and thoughts on the general set-up

[EtherealCookie]

>:D

[EtherealCookie]

I basically killed everyone that even hinted at me having the possibility of being SK/Mafia.

[Sanjay]

I can't believe the town messed that one up.

I thought killing me would be toast for you, Cookie.

[MrSuave]

D: I should have listened to my gut TT______TT I sat there for like 10 min, with "

vote:" trying to weed through all the WIFOM that was there. *sigh* even though I said cookie had convinced me, I didn't know what he convinced me of. I hate WIFOM >_<

[Snow White]

Ugh this was the most frustrating game ever!! For... obvious reasons.

I actually started reading again after Faerielord was toast and by the end i was screaming at the screen to lynch Cookie, he believed my innocence too quick and on top of that Sanjay's input to what was manho innocence was inarguble. Well i thought anyway.

Well done cookie. And better luck next time mr. Swauve and manho. : )

[Max]

I thought Cookie's last day was far more convincing than manho's. Manho seemed to be wrapped up in a single thing about how he'd been cleared.

MrSuave was only cleared by Sigmund Freud Lying so he shouldn't have been cleared, lucky but bad play by Mr. Freud.

In a kingmaker situation I felt that Cookie would win and Sanjay or MrSuave/Manho would be lynched instead.

Cookie didn't play infallibly but he certainly played a better game than either of the other two factions.

[Sanjay]

Was Cookie bulletproof?

[Max]

No. He was not.

[BloodCovenent]

That was a BAAD game for me. I signed up for to many games and screwed myself over.