Goon), stabbed in the stomach at Shang Tsung's Courtyard Day 2!
7. Ghostwriter,
Shao Kahn
(
Mafia
Odd-Night Strongman), smashed into molten metal at Hell's Foundry Day 3!
KIRA AND SHAO KAHN HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER AND YET THEY BOTH FLIPPED MAFIA.
This. I'm thinking the Mafia is made up of different flavor backgrounds, just like the townies have different backgrounds.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:12 am
by Toogeloo
Sorry I haven't posted since my V/LA ended. I have a kidney stone, it came on suddenly, and I have been on percocet and had little energy to do anything yet alone worry about a mafia game.
We have just a little over 4 days to come to a consensus on who we want in the ring, otherwise the top two with the most votes are going in.
I went back and checked, and Ludi started the IS kick, not muffin. I don't really see scum looking at the state of affairs at that time and deciding what they really needed to do is bus a teammate.
Your list does not mention Ludi. What does this statement make you think of Ludi's alignment?
↑zMuffinMan wrote:btw, when Nero flips scum, and people begin to realise that there actually is only one scum team, CSL and Oversoul are 100% town.
Disagree. I do think Oversoul is town regardless, but if Nero does flip scum, I don't think that clears CSL at all. Scum can attack other scum, especially if one or both of them look bad. If CSL gets lynched and flips scum, it would make Nero look better, and vice versa, but it doesn't clear either of them from not being scum.
@Amrun:
You and I have both been cleared to be NOT Black Dragon, but we have not been cleared as being NOT Invaders (Reck's scanning). One team or two, people can't just dismiss as confirmed since that possibility would still exist in their minds. This is why people are arguing you aren't confirmed town.
May you guys never suffer from a kidney stone... my god, worst pain I have ever gone through.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:13 am
by Toogeloo
If I don't pass this kidney stone within the next couple days, I will ask for a replacement.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:23 am
by DemonHybrid
Get better soon.
Votecount will come at the end of this page.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:34 am
by Amrun
IS, you've been flailscum. But I don't really care about you in the sense that I want Nero dead. My vote is hypothetically on Nero, but your wagon is bigger and you are A OK to die if by some act of stupidity everyone decides to save Nero.
But really, you are flailscum.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:00 am
by Internet Stranger
I see, Amrun. Youre clearly admitting that youre only on my wagon because its bigger? So you really dont care about who lives or dies?
Are you saying that you firmly believe that what Ludi said a looooong time ago (he is clearly hiding away now) was true? You do recall that I refuted every one of his BULLSHIT points, right? Was I supposed to just sit there and let LudiScum make up lies and bullshit about me? Was I supposed to not look for scum after that fact? But hey, you dont really care anyways right? The more townies die, the less you would have to kill off later on, right?
How exactly is this town-motivated behavior coming from you? Youre not even trying to garner a vote on your #1 suspect? Hell, youre not even voting on your favorite suspect. All youre doing is whining. Youre full of shit just like the rest of them. How is pointing all of this out "flailing"?
I made the case on Ludi. I did the ISO, I did the analysis, I am looking at him closely and his actions are not those of a townsperson. But hey, I have the bigger wagon, so thats more acceptable, right?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:05 am
by Amrun
... How much are you trying to twist my words? lol
I don't really care who goes up on the block with Nero, no. I DO care who dies. I just want to make sure that whomever is up on the block with Nero is someone I don't have a strong townread on, and preferably someone I lean scum on.
I saw your exchange with Ludi, yes. I think your reactions were just a bit too panicky - something about them just strikes as off. It's not really WHAT you said, it's your tone and manner of doing so. HOWEVER, I'm not totally slamdunk sure. When you and Nero are up on the block, I'll certainly vote to save you.
I want nero dead. Not sure how you keep missing this even after I put it in huge font. NERO IS SCUM.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:08 am
by Internet Stranger
Why dont you think Ludi is scum then?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:11 am
by Amrun
I had a town read on him day 1 (or early game, forget exactly).
Most of it is gut, it's true.
If I were seriously wanting one of you dead, I would probably care a little more. As of right now you're a "just in case" vehicle just in case acts of stupidity leave nero alive, as stated before.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:29 pm
by Nero Cain
Are you normally this stupid or are you being intetionaly dense here, Amrun?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:30 pm
by Amrun
Do you normally employ ad hom with such a heavy hand, Nero?
↑Darox wrote:That doesn't make you cop confirmed town. Because, you know, there IS two factions and we fucking know this already. They probably are working together for 1 scum team, but it doesn't stop there being two distinct types of scum.
Post inbound.
what is this i don't even
what is the point of this post
yo I see you deflecting and everything and I'mma let you finish...
but your post was the most pointless post of the game!
That post of mine had a point; the point was to express that I was disagreeing with Darox.
You, on the other hand, posted something that I was legitimately asking "WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS"
Are you attacking Oversoul, or just posting fluff? Which is it?
What I tried to say with my post was:
Why do you deflect GreyICE with petty insults?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:07 pm
by zMuffinMan
toog wrote:it doesn't clear either of them from not being scum.
It does, when you realise that Nero's scum meta is to tunnel townies until he absolutely
must
mention his teammates to avoid suspicion.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:57 pm
by Darox
This game is bulllllllllllshiiiiiiiiiit.
Ok so, Nero is pretty scummy and his reasons for suspecting MoS & muffin are basically complete crap. Amrun still being dumb. Still on the fence regarding IS.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:43 pm
by Internet Stranger
I would start being suspicious of people parking votes. Anyone not voting for LudiScum, CSL, Nero or even myself by this point needs to be looked ore closely.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:00 pm
by kiwieagle
i still think oversoul is scum sooo
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:07 pm
by Amrun
So what? How do you think your vote is remotely useful right now?
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:11 pm
by Toogeloo
If he stays on Oversoul, at this current pace, Oversoul will go into the Ring (we are likely going to be putting in the top two today instead of two different lynches). According to the last votals, only IS, Os, and MoS have more than 1 vote. There are a lot of single votes thrown out right now, which are more wasted.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:12 pm
by Magister Ludi
Internet is still scum. I think the reasons on him have been pretty good. Nothing he has done in response has really shaken my read.
My only question is what happened to the suspicions and votes on Oversoul from yesterday's ring session. I'll look into that a bit.
Not sure what Nero is doing with his vote.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:21 pm
by CSL
Get better soon, toog.
People screaming that he (Internet) is town are either afraid town that doesn't want to risk being wrong, or scum.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:28 pm
by Internet Stranger
Oh hey, there you are. You saw all them questions I asked Amrun? Why dont you start answering them too CSL?
Like, why are you blatantly bandwagon jumping?
Or, What was so wonderful about Ludi's lies about me that makes you think you can get away with that blatant bandwagon jump?
Going further, why dont you think that Ludi is scum CSL? If you say "gut feeling" too, ill pull my hair out over the BULLSHIT.
I mean look at Ludi. All he is doing now is playing the confirmation bias game. You wouldnt want to be wrong, do you? He is playing on your fear that you could be wrong. Look at all that false confidence he has. If this was a live game, he would be shitting his pants about now.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:33 pm
by DemonHybrid
CSL is V/LA until September 16th through September 19th, the 19th being the latest.
Please let me know if I'm missing any V/LAs or if the votecount is wrong. I've had a hectic week.
With 15 alive, it takes 8 to select a Kombatant! Deadline is Saturday, September 17th at 9:00 PM EDT. (3 Days Left)