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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:32 am
by mastin2
Screw it.

Unvote, VOTE: Junpei.


He's scum, specifically avoiding commentary on Macros, when there is no reason to withhold that read as town, ESPECIALLY when the player he wants to give a read is the person who has more content on Macros than all other players pretty much combined. (27+ mentions in my ISO, last I checked.) It's dodgy as hell. I'm not yielding; Junpei WILL answer FIRST.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:33 am
by Psyche
mastin2 wrote:Junpei, I have.

Multiple times.

In fact, I've commented on Macros more than any other player.

YOU have not.
YOU have ZERO mention of Macros in your ISO.

Now answer. What. Do. You. Think. Of. Macros.


Watch out guys, we have a baddass over here.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:34 am
by mastin2
CodeX:
That leaves {shotty, Hez, Macross, redFF, scooby} as containing one scum.
redFF is my strongest townread, scooby's a townread, Hez is a townread, and shotty's a scumread. Macros you'll have to wait for Junpei to answer first. Since I? I've got a QT. I've been typing up my opinion on Macross in multiple posts over the last 15 minutes. He? He's given nothing.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:38 am
by Junpei
mastin2 wrote:NEED ANOTHER LOOK: (But tenatively town)
9. Macros

Oh yeah, Mastin you have a pretty legitimate read on Macros here. "need another look": that's a commitment.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:41 am
by Kublai Khan
WTF Junpei?

mastin2 has commented on Macros already. Why the delay on your part?

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:41 am
by mastin2
And Junpei continues to not answer, despite multiple requests to do so.
And brings up a post which actually supports me, 'cause guess where I gave Macros another look?
Yeah, in my QT.

I've done my work.
I've got half a dozen posts devoted to him in my QT.
I've worked out my read, and can prove it by showing the reasoning and my conclusion.

Junpei has..."Well, I want Mastin to answer first."

...Yeah...

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:42 am
by mastin2
Speaking of Macros,
Kublai Khan
, I'd like an updated read on him from YOU as well.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:42 am
by Psyche
mastin2 wrote:And Junpei continues to not answer, despite multiple requests to do so.
And brings up a post which actually supports me, 'cause guess where I gave Macros another look?
Yeah, in my QT.

I've done my work.
I've got half a dozen posts devoted to him in my QT.
I've worked out my read, and can prove it by showing the reasoning and my conclusion.

Junpei has..."Well, I want Mastin to answer first."

...Yeah...


Therefore, Junpei is scum?

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:43 am
by Junpei
Mastin, I have 3 massive walls just on Macro in MY QT, my conclusion is one which would be anti-town to announce now.

Now sit down and go back to pretending to scumhunt :P

Kublai, Mastins' comments on Macro inthread are pretty poor as of late; I think he is not scumhunting as I've already said.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:44 am
by mastin2
Psyche wrote:Therefore, Junpei is scum?
This is not the only reason that he is scum, but yes, this'd be reason enough for him to be scum.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:48 am
by mastin2
Kublai, Mastins' comments on Macros inthread are pretty poor as of late; I think he is not scumhunting as I've already said.
You won't goad me into posting my read on him first, Junpei. You. get. nothing. more. Not even a hint at my current read until you post first. I WILL force this through.

There is ZERO reason to hold back a read on a player.

ESPECIALLY when the person asking it of you says they already have a read, and no amount of content from you can change or alter said read. What, you think I'd scrap it all and sheep you? Scrap it all and go against you? That I BS'd the whole thing and will automatically go against/with you?

You know me better than that, Junpei.

Post. The. Read. Or.
Die
. Those are your two options. There is NO alternative.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:50 am
by Junpei
Mastin, I do know you: You are the guy whose words hold little weight in this game and whose actions are mostly trivial. Go ahead, vote me, I don't really care. If you want to post a Macros read then cool, but whatever.

I'm heading out for a bit, see you later.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:57 am
by Psyche
I'm not voting Junpei for trolling mastin.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:08 am
by Nero Cain
Psyche wrote:I'm not voting Junpei for trolling mastin.

itt psyche is scum and knows Jun is town.

TML is also scum.

All aboard the TML wagon, next stop scum lynch.

vote:TML

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:16 am
by mastin2
Junpei wrote:Mastin, I do know you: You are the guy whose words hold little weight in this game and whose actions are mostly trivial.
And this is where you are wrong, Junpei. My words hold incredible weight, and none of my actions are ever trivial--you need only look at the fact that you have a wagon forming on you to see proof of this. That wagon can (and probably will) double in size, because when it comes right down to it, you are posting exactly as you would as scum. You are not looking at this game with a town mindset, you've in fact scumslipped multiple times by revealing your scum-motivated stance, your posts are carefully fabricated to try and look town, but the artificial nature of them gives away that you're not playing as town. Your interactions with others have given you away.

And let's deal in more "concrete" terms. What I said above is somewhat abstract and general. To put it simply, I can use your own treasured weapon against you--logic. Rather, your extreme lack thereof. You are allegedly a logical player who is supposed to think things through analytically and form conclusions based off of those facts: but instead, you ignore large pieces of evidence, overlook critical facts, and are purposefully trying not to reach a strong conclusion on anyone.

After I eat lunch, I might show examples of this in your scum-driven ISO. But needless to say, I am NOT the kind of player you think I am.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:20 am
by Psyche
Woah, so intense. I got chills!

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:20 am
by mastin2
Whoops. It's an hour later than I thought it was.

Lunch, try dinner. :P

I have to leave, and won't be back 'til much later tonight.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:21 am
by Kublai Khan
mastin2 wrote:Speaking of Macros,
Kublai Khan
, I'd like an updated read on him from YOU as well.

Fair enough. He's been prod dodging and making empty promises for far too long. The only town-ish thing that he's done that put him a (small) notch above the scum line is the fact that he had the opportunity to jump on the rack wagon, but didn't.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:46 pm
by drmyshotgun
@Mod: Can we get a Vote Count please?

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:14 pm
by Pine
This game's just not fun, I'm having a hard time keeping up with the end of the semester, and I'm absolutely nowhere.

Mod: Replace /out please. Sorry.


@Replacement: Look long and hard at Macros, Mastin, and Scooby. I'm stumped as hell on Shotgun, he's dropping newbie scumtells and newbie towntells left and right.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:32 pm
by drmyshotgun
Its an unfortunate decision, Pine, if you don't mind me saying. The replacement is in a pretty wobbly position.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:53 pm
by PeregrineV
Vote Count 2-1

(as of Post 1245)


Pine (5)
- Maxous, DeasVail, drmyshotgun, scooby, Psyche
Nero Cain (3)
- The Mini-Librarian, Kublai Khan, Junpei
Junpei (3)
- HezLucky, Lady Lambdadelta, mastin2
The Mini-Librarian(1)
- Nero Cain
redFF (1)
- Code_X
Firestarter (1)
- redFF
drmyshotgun (1)
- Pine



Not Voting (6)
- Benmage, Firestarter, GreyICE, FakeGod, drmyshottyizsik, Macros

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch


Deadline:
Thursday, May 11, 2012 3pm CST


Replacing:

GreyIce
Macros
Pine

Prods:

Firestarter
drmyshottyizsik

V/LAs:

None

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:36 pm
by mastin2
Khan wrote:Fair enough. He's been prod dodging and making empty promises for far too long. The only town-ish thing that he's done that put him a (small) notch above the scum line is the fact that he had the opportunity to jump on the rack wagon, but didn't.
That's reasoning, but it's not a *read*, Khan. Give me something concrete, here.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:41 pm
by mastin2
By the way, Junpei stuff'll have to wait. I'm exhausted, have stuff to do elsewhere before I go to bed.

I'll see if I can do it tomorrow. But I'm going to push this until I get what I want--Junpei WILL answer me. And not in the dodgy way Khan just did. He'll give a blunt answer to the blunt question. All I need is a simple one to three words (though preferably with more of course), to answer the rather simple question.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:35 pm
by Kublai Khan
mastin2 wrote:
Khan wrote:Fair enough. He's been prod dodging and making empty promises for far too long. The only town-ish thing that he's done that put him a (small) notch above the scum line is the fact that he had the opportunity to jump on the rack wagon, but didn't.
That's reasoning, but it's not a *read*, Khan. Give me something concrete, here.

Wow, really? That was dodgy? Was that really
that
hard to parse?

Macros ->
weak scum read


Is that better?