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In post 1224, Toomai wrote:

In post 1219, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:Neither are that impressive, but at the very least look at who scum was voting for parts of the game, toomai.

This got me thinking.

	D1	D2	D3
hp[leaves] 's votes	GCBC, NC , Toomai , NC , Toomai , NC	Toomai	SB, hp[l]
ac1983fan 's votes	Toomai , Daemon, Varsoon , SB	SB	—
GoodCopBadCop's votes	JRD , acf , NC , zefiend , Varsoon , SB, acf , NC , Toomai , NC	acf , Toomai , acf	hp[l]
Toomai 's votes	Varsoon , GCBC, NC , GCBC, Varsoon , NC , acf , NC	acf	Dyslx , SB
Scott Brosius's votes	GCBC, Varsoon , Toomai	Toomai , acf	hp[l]
Daemon385's votes	NC , acf , NC

(

conf-town

,

prob-town

,

self-conf-town

,

conf-scum

,

dead

)
(RVS votes counted. Unvotes and vote durations ignored.)

I'm not sure what to do with this right now, but maybe someone else will have a flash of insight. I do know one thing though: Daemon is the only player to get through two days without voting.

In post 1222, Cheery Pie wrote:GCBC practically has the hammer at this point though (assuming Toomai would switch off himself)

Indeed.

This could be helpful. I'm going to try and analyze it myself. See if I can find some kind of connection. I hope we can find something out of this

I feel like this will solve itself.

Also toomai did vote acfan D2, but makes it seem like he was on the lynch as well, which he wasn't.

In post 1226, Scott Brosius wrote:Also toomai did vote acfan D2, but makes it seem like he was on the lynch as well, which he wasn't.

Alright I can clarify.

	D1	D2	D3
hp[leaves] 's votes	GCBC, NC , Toomai , NC , Toomai , NC	Toomai	SB, hp[l]
ac1983fan 's votes	Toomai , unvote , Daemon, unvote , Varsoon , SB	SB	—
GoodCopBadCop's votes	JRD , acf , NC , zefiend , Varsoon , unvote , SB, unvote , acf , unvote , NC , Toomai , NC	acf , Toomai , acf	hp[l]
Toomai 's votes	Varsoon , GCBC, NC , GCBC, unvote , Varsoon , unvote , NC , acf , NC	acf , unvote	Dyslx , SB
Scott Brosius's votes	GCBC, Varsoon , Toomai	Toomai , acf	hp[l]
Daemon385's votes	NC , acf , NC

(, , , , )
(Random votes counted. Unvotes counted. Vote durations ignored.)

Also, . Since in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter whether it's him or me, I might as well not vote for the one I know is conf-town. I'll go back to self-voting if deadline is coming but I kinda doubt that will happen.

Bah I still think this is a bad idea. Good game though I am VT as you'll see. I believe this is the hammer since toomai hammered me in. I feel like I know who the scum is now though. Good luck town. Win it for us.

Because

if you are town, don't worry about it. if you are both town that is when we have to worry.

Yeah I know. Good luck with finding that scum though I'll be rooting for you guys no hard feelings =D

Just figured I'd save my skin if I could to live another day haha

Shall I hammer Daemon? Is there more to discuss? Give us a quick nod in a direction Jake, since you've got to be ready to get trackin'.

@CP - Protect Rainbow.

I've got nothing else to say atm.

- GC

I am waiting to hear from dashie. if scum is one of toomai/daemon they really have their emotions in check.

the person who has risen up my scumdar personally over the last couple of pages is GCBC. I know both of these heads and keeping quiet or being at a loss for words is not par for the course for either of them.

If anyone has their own theories, put them out there. Just cause dashie has narrowed it down to Toomai/daemon doesn't mean we are right.

It's also possible that Dyslex is in the list of scum also, depending on if the mod allowed HP to kill AND Rb in the same night.

I feel before the day is over I want to see a few detailed posts from Toomai/Daemon/SB/GCBC/& Dyslex

I'd love to hear theories from your point of view on who YOU think is most likely partner to AC/HP also why do you think mafia didn't kill CP when he was the obvious NK target.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. GO!

-J

Eh like I have said before I know I am VT and I think just lynching me is a bad idea. Now the person I mentioned before I have a idea who could be the scum. It looks like the most suspicious voting pattern would be Toomai, GCBC, and maybe Scott from looking at the vote counter thing. More so on GCBC because of the what looks like jump voting and mainly on town, but this is just speculation. Toomai I still really just don't know about him yet. I wanna think he is town though. And I am still weary on the who Scott deal.

The only reasons I would think he wasn't killed is the fact that he is maybe scum and someone else protected and he is hiding quite nicely, but I doubt it. Or it was too easy for them maybe they figured they could have got caught by tracker or any other role hiding amongst us or to even make him look suspicious. I think he is town though. Now between Myself, Toomai, Scott, GCBC, and Dysx one of us is lying (hopefully just one). We all called VT if I am correct. And obviously that isn't possible.

And that is with me believing JFR and CP are in fact town. Which I do believe so considering JFR several attempts at getting scum being successful so far. And Cherry's claim of protection which I doubt would be wrong at this point. If there was another doc I feel they would have come out by now to prove him wrong.

Me and Toomai have been mostly quiet all game so not to much has stuck out from us really.
GCBC and Scott in my eyes have played more scummier then most players in this game looking at there ISO.
Dysx well like I said I have no damn clue here xD but probobly more so in same catagory as me and Toomai

It's posts like the one Toomai just made that reads town. If he's pretty much lynched, why make the effort to save himself 1 day.

The hap kill really was a curve ball, from scum's pov I really can't see the benefit, especially as I was personally suspicious of that slot.

If CP is scum, I'll at the reviewers.

The points about gc/bc's vote patterns are good, and I personally would like to see them lynched before both of you guys.

Dashie is also paranoid about them.

Dyslexic is also worrying me.

Silence in games isn't good. Gonna check when his last post was actually.

In post 1194, Dyslexicon wrote:Can someone explain why CP and Jakedash is Conf.town? I agree there is very little chance of scum among them though.

I've had a towny read on Daemon throughout the game. But it's more due to having similar thoughts, so I usually follow his logic easily, and probably not the best reasoning for having him as town. Will ISO when I have the time.

Scum is most likely between Toomai and Scott, leaning Toomai for me. The lazy finger pointing reminds me of acfan, and the self vote is unproductive *hands kleenex*. The biggest thing is the wagon hopping, especially jumping off the acfan wagon. Meh.

We also have Antagon (hi). Who is just null to me atm. Varsoon was fun, but never really convinced me, despite saying he was town all the time.

In post 1218, Dyslexicon wrote:VOTE: Daemon

*burp*

If daemon was a town read and Toomai wasn't. Why vote daemon?

In post 1238, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:The points about gc/bc's vote patterns are good, and I personally would like to see them lynched before both of you guys.

Dashie is also paranoid about them.

What the butt is this horseradish

When you guys are at lylo, lynch rainbowjake

since I know he won't get lynched before that

I'll probably be dead or lynched before then

-badcop

lol, that is a horrible reaction btw.

I'm sticking with dashie's plan of lunching daemon and tracking torc, but I really want to vote you right now.

You aren't conf.town

I don't like that GCBC post. That's the second "I'm totally gunna die"-style wailing we've heard from the slot. It's been a slot that's irked me after Day 1, so I may just ISO and get some thoughts out about it.

Since we've plenty of time, hammer is not going to come down for a while. At least from me.

I'll do some reading of players outside Toomai and Daemon and see if the net shouldn't be widened for today after all.

At any rate, lots of time for this.

In post 1235, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:I'd love to hear theories from your point of view on who YOU think is most likely partner to AC/HP also why do you think mafia didn't kill CP when he was the obvious NK target.

Apparently the scum would rather shoot a highly-active townleader than a doctor. There's an argument either way.

I still don't really like SB in general, but I'm starting to feel like he's not scum because hp[l] said he blocked him. He knew that there may have been a Tracker so claiming a different target would be dangerous, and I find it hard to believe scum would waste a block just to attempt a bus the next day.

Daemon never voted for two consecutive days and that's a large black mark. GCBC votehopped more than I did Day 1 and seems to have shrunk away lately. If indeed Dyslexicon is town due to the factional/personal ability conflict (that we can't expect the mod to tell us what the ruling would be) then it's one of them.

In post 1239, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:If daemon was a town read and Toomai wasn't. Why vote daem

As I said my read on him was mostly me agreeing with his waffle, kind of felt we were in the same spot this game. Your post #1198 made me viden my perspective some more, via your track record (hahah).

I must admit I haven't been as invested as I should in this game, and I'm really sorry. Although hapa did a great job being supertown it kind of made me lazy, I think. I've seen some worry about me, and it seems like it's mostly due to lack of posting/commitment (?). I'll just mention again that I was tracked, although I don't know if it's custom to let players do multiple actions, I'm not used to that were I've played before. I also was the first one to get some real attention to acfan, and really wanted him gone since. Apart from that I guess I haven't done much.

I don't think daemon is being as nonchalant about the possibility of being lynched as Toomai is, constantly saying it's a bad idea. Also Toomai's thinking about Scott in #1243 seems town. If they both are town we do have a slight problem. I'd much prefer Daemon over Toomai today though. I'd rather not speculate too much on the kill last night, but it leaves some interesting possibilities, mostly beneficial to town, although I miss hapa, my love <3

Think I'm gonna ISO GCBC and possibly CP when I make myself another cup of coffee.

@Dys Did you just list all the reasons other people have called you town?

Why did you not vote ac until after hapa's case if that first attention was really wanting him gone?

In post 1245, Cheery Pie wrote:@Dys Did you just list all the reasons other people have called you town?

Why did you not vote ac until after hapa's case if that first attention was really wanting him gone?

I think I did, but it's not a long list. I see us as quite close to a win by process of elimination, so hopefully that can contribute.

Well, I was the first to bring attention to him, and Hapa quickly brought it to life in a way I wouldn't be able to. I honestly think it was more of a confidence thing as this is my first "real game" on the site. But I was in on the thought with acfan by #253. Then I was gone for a long time, but he was the one i picked up when I came back. And hapa bothered making a real case with the lead, and since then there wasn't much doubt in my mind that he was scum. So I stuck to my vote until I needed to hammer NC.

Can you guys who are calling me suspicious actually provide evidence instead of just going "lulz, GCBC's ISO looks kinda scummy".

The Hapa kill makes the most sense from RainbowJake's pov. They're getting protected by CP so there's no need for them to kill him.

Don't end the day yet. Things have started to get interesting again.

- GC

In post 1247, GoodCopBadCop wrote:Can you guys who are calling me suspicious actually provide evidence instead of just going "lulz, GCBC's ISO looks kinda scummy".

The Hapa kill makes the most sense from RainbowJake's pov. They're getting protected by CP so there's no need for them to kill him.

Don't end the day yet. Things have started to get interesting again.

- GC

This is a prime example of a scummy ass post.

In post 1234, GoodCopBadCop wrote:@CP - Protect Rainbow.

I've got nothing else to say atm.

- GC

In post 1240, GoodCopBadCop wrote:

In post 1238, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:The points about gc/bc's vote patterns are good, and I personally would like to see them lynched before both of you guys.

Dashie is also paranoid about them.

What the butt is this horseradish

When you guys are at lylo, lynch rainbowjake

since I know he won't get lynched before that

I'll probably be dead or lynched before then

-badcop

In post 1213, GoodCopBadCop wrote:

In post 1205, Jake from Rainbowdash wrote:btw, GCBC, why the dramatics?

"I'll probably die somewhat soon"?

I mean really?

That was when I figured you were scum

Anyway at this point in the game I'm willing to just sheep you

-bc

In post 1197, GoodCopBadCop wrote:It's possible that JFR is mafia traitor so they aren't conf town.

@Rainbow

- Who did you track last night?
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I agree that Toomai is our best option atm.

- GC

In post 1186, GoodCopBadCop wrote:

In post 1182, Toomai wrote:Y'know what fine.

Vote: Toomai

I currently have no idea what I'm doing. I will be a liability to the town until I flip or do a full reread (which will take a few days). We have two mislyches to give so go ahead and use one.

Replace out instead of wasting our lynches.

- GC