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Chapter 2 Ends..

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Desperado I'm liking less and less. Now he's apparently only posting to defend himself when he's being accused.

List of scumreads please, other than Nat.

List of townreads please? Other than mollie wis and tne?

I ask because I want to see where you stand, and your reads (comprehensive) aren't that accessible. To put my money where my mouth is, I will give an update of what I think, but I need some more time to re-read all. Youvé been here today though.

Or are you content with just one scumread and lots of townreads? I am not content with that

^That was in response to Desp, not Wisdom (simul post)

In post 1223, Desperado wrote:What reads haven't I been clear about Bert?

Also, Serra seems like a strong player as either alignment, am I wise to assume this?

So I'm afraid of her/him manipulating me, there's that thing in the back of my mind...

but still think she/he is town.

gonna take a rest because I can't remember if mollie is readnig Serra as scum or not (brain is fried),

will look back in a few

As for penguin, I have had two games with town-her but I can't really tell if the play here matches those or not. Mantis told me that it doesn't and I think she might have a point.

In post 1224, Wisdom wrote:And then there's my point from D1 - his push on slimer felt forced. He even threatened to blacklist everyone because they didn't want to lynch slimer. I have played a fair amount of games with serra(all town) and I don't think it's like him to get annoyed at lurkers, especially to that extent.

meh, what to make of the blacklist thing. *shrug*

Thought it was town, because I saw Sakura do that in 514 and turn town with that "WISDOM HEY IM GONNA BLACK LIST YOU"

it's just really low and unnecessary for pushing lynches if it's done from a scum perspective

Make no mistake I was surprised Sakura turned up town

It's not the same thing though. Sakura said it clearly, serra just said "I'll probably avoid playing with such bad town if we don't lynch slimer", I'm sure you can see the difference.

In post 1226, Wisdom wrote:Desperado I'm liking less and less. Now he's apparently only posting to defend himself when he's being accused.

What else should I be commenting on that I'm not? I've talked about several things today that have nothing to do with defending myself.

I dunno, scumhunt maybe?

In post 1227, Bert wrote:List of scumreads please, other than Nat.

List of townreads please? Other than mollie wis and tne?

I ask because I want to see where you stand, and your reads (comprehensive) aren't that accessible. To put my money where my mouth is, I will give an update of what I think, but I need some more time to re-read all. Youvé been here today though.

Or are you content with just one scumread and lots of townreads? I am not content with that

I'm content with giving the information I'm confident in giving. I can't recall an instance of me giving anything resembling a full player by player reads list on this site and I'm not likely to start now.

Yeah.
So Desp is scum.

In post 1234, Desperado wrote:I'm content with giving the information I'm confident in giving. I can't recall an instance of me giving anything resembling a full player by player reads list on this site and I'm not likely to start now.

lmao

STUBBORN



hey I'm not giving up, this is not over. I will prod you more and more. Just you wait, scumbag

In post 1233, Wisdom wrote:I dunno, scumhunt maybe?

That doesn't seem like an answer to the question I asked.

In post 1231, Wisdom wrote:It's not the same thing though. Sakura said it clearly, serra just said "I'll probably avoid playing with such bad town if we don't lynch slimer", I'm sure you can see the difference.

Meh, tht's true.

Yeah that is kinda manipulative to say.

at least now I see where you're coming from

In post 1235, Wisdom wrote:Yeah.
So Desp is scum.

Why, because I won't give a meaningless reads list that will have you, TNE, and mollie as town, Nat as scum, and the other 6 varying degrees of null?

So you're saying you don't have other scumreads?

In post 1239, Desperado wrote:

In post 1235, Wisdom wrote:Yeah.
So Desp is scum.

Why, because I won't give a meaningless reads list that will have you, TNE, and mollie as town, Nat as scum, and the other

6 varying degrees of null

?

6 varying degrees of null LOL

that is not acceptable at all, Desp

In post 1240, Wisdom wrote:So you're saying you don't have other scumreads?

Not one that I'm confident enough in stating and pursuing, no.

It's the opposite of your approach.

And why are you scumreading Natirasha again?

In post 1241, Bert wrote:

In post 1239, Desperado wrote:

In post 1235, Wisdom wrote:Yeah.
So Desp is scum.

Why, because I won't give a meaningless reads list that will have you, TNE, and mollie as town, Nat as scum, and the other

6 varying degrees of null

?

6 varying degrees of null LOL

that is not acceptable at all, Desp

Why isn't it? Are you saying you can say with confidence what ever player's alignment is right now?

Desp, this weak defensive play is nothing like you. I remember you being aggressive and going after people, lots of people, in Nuzlocke. Now I do believe people can play differently in games, but such a big difference? Why are you doing nothing here?

In post 1243, Wisdom wrote:And why are you scumreading Natirasha again?

Lots of false promises D1 followed by a spur of activity right at the deadline reads like scum treading water and then turning the switch on when it counted.

Lots of suspicion thrown Sweet Pertayter's way throughout D1 (while continually noting that "Mara's return" might mitigate the read), followed by the interactions you've described in detail at the end of D1.

Useless setup speculation with references to games that obviously have no effect on the setup of this game while a lot of interesting interactions were happening is the cherry on top.

I think there's one scum in {Serra, Sweet Pertayter, Nat} and I think it's Nat.

And this "case" is terribad, really. Either you devolved into a bad player or you're scum, and the latter is much more likely.

@Desp:

No. But reads change over time, they arent set in stone. Of course im not 100% sure until after a flip comes

But reads still help us gauge you

You're an enigma and have made some responses that don't make me happy with you alive

You can give your current ones, your current reads

Then I and others can look at your reads and see how well we can relate to your mindset...

In post 1245, Wisdom wrote:Desp, this weak defensive play is nothing like you. I remember you being aggressive and going after people, lots of people, in Nuzlocke. Now I do believe people can play differently in games, but such a big difference? Why are you doing nothing here?

I don't think I'm doing nothing, and you and Serra have both referenced Nuzlocke which, in my opinion, is disingenuous. Not only is that just one game, it was just one day of play before the game was abandoned.

Given your position on meta I don't really understand your thought process here.