Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:48 pm
You know what struck me while I've been fighting my kitten to write this test?
Jiffy's not talking to me like I'm scum. You know why? He's scum and knows I'm town. Therefore, the only thing he has in his arsenal is to twist, mischaracterize and yes misrepresent (this word is often over and incorrectly used but it applies here) in the hopes that Cephrir will get paranoid and lynch me. But he lacks conviction; that's because he knows that he's a liar.
Now let's put aside the fact that I can't pull off paranoia about the game being a town loss because woah wait if it's cephrir all is lost and if I did I'd deserve a damn emmy because if I was scum I'd know that Cephrir was town and wouldn't quickhammer and look at what Majiffy has actually done today with regards to me.
So, he's trying to push this angle that poor little itty witty me just felt like I had to bus so I did. The problem with this is that Nacho was my first scum read here. We also have a possible Bert. But what I find interesting is that town Majiffy would probably be able to use this post to push a scum me, but he's not. Why do you think he's not? He's not because he can't. He can't figure out why I was scum reading Nacho from that post, because Nacho couldn't either. Mala had no idea why I was scum reading Nacho from that post and the thing is he can't even ask me about it because it would be more dangerous for him too. It also doesn't fit the narrative he's trying to tell about a Tammy who's so scared she has to bus. But in order to believe that you'd have to believe I'm that type of player. when I'm not. Check out that for how I defended my scum partner Tierce when she came under suspicion by macmollie. Sorry but the must defend a partner isn't not my thing.
Where his case also becomes an obvious scum case is when he doesn't take into account the remainder of the game. I just pointed out that day one I scum read Nacho. Nacho wasn't around again for day one so I didn't get to interact with him day one. Day two I suggested I was going to vote Bert, but then we interacted and that read changed. Day three has me immediately reverting to my scum read of Nacho and as soon as they come back to the game interacting with them. So jiffy has to frame it like a bus I felt obligated to do. When that doesn't fit my scum game at all as I'd have gladly let him bus me and then win this in lylo because he's the better scum player than I am.
What's interesting is he cuts all of that out. He also actually tries to make it scum motivated of me to be keeping track of the votes coming in because somehow not wanting a quick lynch is somehow insane. But, sure I'll bite on this one, if you can find any example of me quicklynching or advocating a quicklynch, I'll eat my own hat. Quicklynches are bad for town and shouldn't be done. So, yes, at one point I unvoted because nacho and I weren't done talking and I was interested in getting him to talk more to help figure out who his last partner was. But do you know who did rush to get on the lynch? Do you know who did try to cut off discussion? Not one day but even the next day by forcing that Doctor Pepper lynch down your throats?
That's right his scum partner.
What's funny is that VS actually stated that I tried to take credit for the Nacho wagon, but I never even suggested anything of the sort. Am I happy as fuck I caught Nacho? Hell yes. And I did catch him. And I'm happy as fuck about that. The last time Nacho was scum in a game I was in and I was going to vig him, he made up a really believable fake claim and he became my strongest town read. He said in another game after that how easy I was to manipulate. So fuck yeah I'm happy I caught him. Me catching him and me taking credit for the wagon are two separate things, but jiffy because he's scum who has to twist things is trying to say I did something I didn't do. What is also super funny is that he's like 100 posts after soft pushing she pushes him in Post 749. Yes, because it was in that moment I was sure. But what's even more amusing is that in the same post of his, Majiffy is blaming me for "soft-pushing" and then being too certain.
He wants to have his cake and eat it too, when it doesn't work that way. Yes, I had a scum read on Nacho, was I 100% certain about it? Nope, I had to dance with him for a little while and then he made the post that got me to response with 749 because that's when I knew for sure. Even after that I wasn't 100% but I was pretty damn sure. Majiffy would have you believe that me being right on a scum read (Mr. flowchart who pushes people with absolute confidence and doesn't listen to anyone else) somehow makes me scum because I was too sure? Yeah right, that wasn't even close to a bus, it was me being right on scum.
It's fun I guess to try to make interaction with scum look like scum on scum when he didn't even interact with him at all or barely at all. All he did was some flaccid, yeah that looks like nacho scum mkay. Their game now looking back on it is so patently scum it's not funny. Mara's going after Mala for omg trying to get the hider thing going because that's just too protown and the wtf her giving Mara credit for bringing it up in the first place with the cherry topping of you asked me for my tip read. That's special. Then we get the lovely addition of Majiffy who claims to not have read 20 pages so he iso's notscience and calls him town obvtown oh look how cute he is he doesn't know who's still in the game. dawwwwww must be town. Nope. Then let's jump on the DP, Nope Cephrir, Nope Nacho wagon day three, then push the DP wagon down your throats the last day we should have been able to have conversation. But, he doesn't want conversation. Why didn't he want conversation? Why didn't he want me to be able to reread the game and give my comments? Why not? Because he's scum and it was in his best interest to, both days, help cut off conversation.
Cephrir - I get if you're paranoid, I really do. And I'm sorry if my falling apart and throwing a fit when I thought town majiffy threw the game away for town was oftputting but I can't fake that kind of frustration, I really can't. None of what I've done this game are things I can fake. If you read through those scum games that I linked, please read through the qts too cuz I tend to talk a lot in there and I can link you to others if you need. But if you look at the qts and things I've said, you'll see that what I said about always thinking that I'm going to be investigated as scum is true. Therefore, I wouldn't have forgotten about what hider did because it's all I'd be able to think about. I wouldn't bus Nacho that way, I just wouldn't. I'd want him here in lylo not me. And I wouldn't bring someone who was a threat to me. So Majiffy wouldn't be here. I mean look, you can see I've only been in 3p lylo as scum once, I feel like everything I say sounds fake when I'm scum, so I just wouldn't do these things as scum.
I also realize that everything said right here is only going to be taken with a grain of salt because endgame sucks and both town and scum are trying to survive, but I just really really hope when you read back through the game you see that everything I'm saying is true, and I hope you make the right decision because we are definitely town. And if you need any more meta to make that really really obvious let me know and I'll link them.
Jiffy's not talking to me like I'm scum. You know why? He's scum and knows I'm town. Therefore, the only thing he has in his arsenal is to twist, mischaracterize and yes misrepresent (this word is often over and incorrectly used but it applies here) in the hopes that Cephrir will get paranoid and lynch me. But he lacks conviction; that's because he knows that he's a liar.
Now let's put aside the fact that I can't pull off paranoia about the game being a town loss because woah wait if it's cephrir all is lost and if I did I'd deserve a damn emmy because if I was scum I'd know that Cephrir was town and wouldn't quickhammer and look at what Majiffy has actually done today with regards to me.
So, he's trying to push this angle that poor little itty witty me just felt like I had to bus so I did. The problem with this is that Nacho was my first scum read here. We also have a possible Bert. But what I find interesting is that town Majiffy would probably be able to use this post to push a scum me, but he's not. Why do you think he's not? He's not because he can't. He can't figure out why I was scum reading Nacho from that post, because Nacho couldn't either. Mala had no idea why I was scum reading Nacho from that post and the thing is he can't even ask me about it because it would be more dangerous for him too. It also doesn't fit the narrative he's trying to tell about a Tammy who's so scared she has to bus. But in order to believe that you'd have to believe I'm that type of player. when I'm not. Check out that for how I defended my scum partner Tierce when she came under suspicion by macmollie. Sorry but the must defend a partner isn't not my thing.
Where his case also becomes an obvious scum case is when he doesn't take into account the remainder of the game. I just pointed out that day one I scum read Nacho. Nacho wasn't around again for day one so I didn't get to interact with him day one. Day two I suggested I was going to vote Bert, but then we interacted and that read changed. Day three has me immediately reverting to my scum read of Nacho and as soon as they come back to the game interacting with them. So jiffy has to frame it like a bus I felt obligated to do. When that doesn't fit my scum game at all as I'd have gladly let him bus me and then win this in lylo because he's the better scum player than I am.
What's interesting is he cuts all of that out. He also actually tries to make it scum motivated of me to be keeping track of the votes coming in because somehow not wanting a quick lynch is somehow insane. But, sure I'll bite on this one, if you can find any example of me quicklynching or advocating a quicklynch, I'll eat my own hat. Quicklynches are bad for town and shouldn't be done. So, yes, at one point I unvoted because nacho and I weren't done talking and I was interested in getting him to talk more to help figure out who his last partner was. But do you know who did rush to get on the lynch? Do you know who did try to cut off discussion? Not one day but even the next day by forcing that Doctor Pepper lynch down your throats?
That's right his scum partner.
What's funny is that VS actually stated that I tried to take credit for the Nacho wagon, but I never even suggested anything of the sort. Am I happy as fuck I caught Nacho? Hell yes. And I did catch him. And I'm happy as fuck about that. The last time Nacho was scum in a game I was in and I was going to vig him, he made up a really believable fake claim and he became my strongest town read. He said in another game after that how easy I was to manipulate. So fuck yeah I'm happy I caught him. Me catching him and me taking credit for the wagon are two separate things, but jiffy because he's scum who has to twist things is trying to say I did something I didn't do. What is also super funny is that he's like 100 posts after soft pushing she pushes him in Post 749. Yes, because it was in that moment I was sure. But what's even more amusing is that in the same post of his, Majiffy is blaming me for "soft-pushing" and then being too certain.
He wants to have his cake and eat it too, when it doesn't work that way. Yes, I had a scum read on Nacho, was I 100% certain about it? Nope, I had to dance with him for a little while and then he made the post that got me to response with 749 because that's when I knew for sure. Even after that I wasn't 100% but I was pretty damn sure. Majiffy would have you believe that me being right on a scum read (Mr. flowchart who pushes people with absolute confidence and doesn't listen to anyone else) somehow makes me scum because I was too sure? Yeah right, that wasn't even close to a bus, it was me being right on scum.
It's fun I guess to try to make interaction with scum look like scum on scum when he didn't even interact with him at all or barely at all. All he did was some flaccid, yeah that looks like nacho scum mkay. Their game now looking back on it is so patently scum it's not funny. Mara's going after Mala for omg trying to get the hider thing going because that's just too protown and the wtf her giving Mara credit for bringing it up in the first place with the cherry topping of you asked me for my tip read. That's special. Then we get the lovely addition of Majiffy who claims to not have read 20 pages so he iso's notscience and calls him town obvtown oh look how cute he is he doesn't know who's still in the game. dawwwwww must be town. Nope. Then let's jump on the DP, Nope Cephrir, Nope Nacho wagon day three, then push the DP wagon down your throats the last day we should have been able to have conversation. But, he doesn't want conversation. Why didn't he want conversation? Why didn't he want me to be able to reread the game and give my comments? Why not? Because he's scum and it was in his best interest to, both days, help cut off conversation.
Cephrir - I get if you're paranoid, I really do. And I'm sorry if my falling apart and throwing a fit when I thought town majiffy threw the game away for town was oftputting but I can't fake that kind of frustration, I really can't. None of what I've done this game are things I can fake. If you read through those scum games that I linked, please read through the qts too cuz I tend to talk a lot in there and I can link you to others if you need. But if you look at the qts and things I've said, you'll see that what I said about always thinking that I'm going to be investigated as scum is true. Therefore, I wouldn't have forgotten about what hider did because it's all I'd be able to think about. I wouldn't bus Nacho that way, I just wouldn't. I'd want him here in lylo not me. And I wouldn't bring someone who was a threat to me. So Majiffy wouldn't be here. I mean look, you can see I've only been in 3p lylo as scum once, I feel like everything I say sounds fake when I'm scum, so I just wouldn't do these things as scum.
I also realize that everything said right here is only going to be taken with a grain of salt because endgame sucks and both town and scum are trying to survive, but I just really really hope when you read back through the game you see that everything I'm saying is true, and I hope you make the right decision because we are definitely town. And if you need any more meta to make that really really obvious let me know and I'll link them.
Do you have anything else to talk about in this wall or should I just go to sleep now?