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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:02 pm
by Rail Tracer
gif wrote:Well Nati was scum but still he claimed hider and cleared titus.
Based on the situation that time, I don't think he was covering his scumbuddy
i thought about this a little over the night phase and figured it was more null than anything. i'm thinking titus could be town for other reasons, though.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:04 pm
by Rail Tracer
hmm. if it isn't ns (and atm i'm thinking all signs point to ns), then i don't really know who it is.

i'm going to pretend i'm still considering other options today while i wait for ns to post something.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:30 am
by Rebel Without a Pulse
In post 1207, notscience wrote:What makes you think I still think she's scum?
Could you answer my question?
In post 1215, notscience wrote:I'll get you guys my full reads tomorrow (@RT, these two flips have really shook things up for me)

And >.>
scumtell.
In post 1220, beastcharizard wrote:Actually, can you explain how Natirasha cleared them?
Vote Titus with me?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:49 am
by beastcharizard
Rebel, I am voting Titus.

@GIF:
So they weren't actually cleared but rather just not likely to be scum in your eyes. I thought I missed something that actually cleared them.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:07 am
by Titus
Rebel, which head made the above post and your previous post? You have already had that discussion with ns.

Beast, are you just planning to tunnel me?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:12 am
by Rebel Without a Pulse
In post 1228, beastcharizard wrote:Rebel, I am voting Titus.
notscience****
In post 1229, Titus wrote:You have already had that discussion with ns.
So?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:08 am
by notscience
Titus it's clearly Nacho.

I don't, I'm just wondering what made you think Titus town pre-Nati flip.

I'll get that list started in a few.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:09 am
by GuyInFreezer
lol

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:26 am
by GuyInFreezer
Nvm this.
I read it wrong.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:05 am
by notscience
Neverlynch
Nachokvm- duh
RT- duh
Prohawk- He's seemed the most pro-town out of everyone left. He hasn't been incessantly tunneling, he has been transparent (see: his response to my Titus case, his nati cases.
Titus- The interactions between Titus and Nati make it really unlikely they're scum together.
AK- They've spent most of the game tunneling me, and now that everyone is going after me, they're having reservations? Dunno, that's weird. I found the tunneling town, but the latter part is unnerving.
Beast- Nati's final post, as well as everyone else (except GIF) seems more town
GIF- Here's what gets me- GIF has a continuous townread on me the entire game, then when the lynch pool is limited to 4, I'm suddenly scum. It's a really weird transition, given how active he is in trying to get me mislynched now when he's spent majoriy of the game kinda lurky.
Scum

VOTE: GIF

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:12 am
by GuyInFreezer
I did.
Until after you reacted horribly to my rxn test.
Nacho and I narrowed down to titus and you so while nacho was going for titus I decided to vote you with the shittiest reason ever to see ur rxn and possibly other's rxn as well.

Neighbor QT is great because I can plan this sub-par reaction test with a proof that it was actually rxn test!

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:25 am
by Rebel Without a Pulse
In post 1234, notscience wrote:Beast- Nati's final post, as well as everyone else (except GIF) seems more town
cop innocent didn't do anything for you?
In post 1234, notscience wrote:GIF- Here's what gets me- GIF has a continuous townread on me the entire game, then when the lynch pool is limited to 4, I'm suddenly scum. It's a really weird transition, given how active he is in trying to get me mislynched now when he's spent majoriy of the game kinda lurky.
Scum
ffery pegged rt as a power role, told me to protect him, and then no killed?
that seems a wee bit unlikely.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:36 am
by Titus
Ugh. The interactions between NS and Rebel are unsettling. Why the hell cover what you've already asked and had answered without acknowledgment that the question was already asked?

Also, we have a odd night cop, even night hider, doctor and neighborizer. Far too much. I believe RT's claim because it goes perfectly with an even night hider which we know exists. The doctor claim makes sense. However, there is another explanation. Scum faking a doctor claim. How often is there a miller doctor? Plus GiF/SoS being a neighborizer? Why not neighborize the cop?

GiF's theory of two mafia and an SK also sucks major. Not enough kills for that. An SK likely would have killed by now.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:41 am
by GuyInFreezer
1. because I'm
compulsive
1-shot neighborizer, which means that me and fery were forced to neighborize someone night 1. We even crumbed it that we will do so.
2. Yeah I kinda gave up on that SK theory. (You don't see me talking about it anymore.) Still n1 kill was weird as hell.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:42 am
by GuyInFreezer
we will do so = we will neighborize nacho

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:48 am
by notscience
In post 1236, Rebel Without a Pulse wrote:cop innocent didn't do anything for you?
What's the meta for Godfathers, nacho?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:50 am
by GuyInFreezer
Both miller and godfather in the setup is a overkill unless the game is specially designed around them.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:00 am
by Rebel Without a Pulse
In post 1237, Titus wrote:Why the hell cover what you've already asked and had answered without acknowledgment that the question was already asked?
I didn't remember asking the question, was too lazy to look back. I found that I asked ns why he was still reading you as scum. He said "no, I'm not still reading you as scum". I later asked why you were town. It's an extension of the conversation we were having before Skies died by hider guilty.
In post 1237, Titus wrote:The doctor claim makes sense. However, there is another explanation. Scum faking a doctor claim.
why two no kills?
In post 1240, notscience wrote:
In post 1236, Rebel Without a Pulse wrote:cop innocent didn't do anything for you?
What's the meta for Godfathers, nacho?
didn't answer my question.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:21 am
by notscience
Then allow me to answer mine and yours.

Godfathers lurk to draw an investigation.

Therefore, inno means nothing.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:23 am
by GuyInFreezer
The thing is that there is < 1percent chance of godfather.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:24 am
by notscience
Miller, godfather, cop, hider.

Cop gets innos/false positives on these.

Who can double check?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:29 am
by GuyInFreezer
Btw you keep insisting that there's a godfather basically says that you're expecting me to flip town!

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:42 pm
by Rail Tracer
In post 1236, Rebel Without a Pulse wrote:ffery pegged rt as a power role, told me to protect him, and then no killed?
that seems a wee bit unlikely.
jesus christ, i was thinking this too, but now you've made me think about it again and i'm paranoid of it. that would actually be a brilliant play.

i mean... i think it's more likely gif is town, but that would actually be a really good player if they had me pegged as either a non-investigative PR or a limited investigative PR.

what night did you claim doc to them, btw? N2 or N3?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:49 pm
by Rail Tracer
actually i don't see a point in dragging out this day when i'm unlikely to change my mind here.

nacho and gif are almost certainly town. i'm not convinced a godfather doesn't exist, but i'm currently thinking it's more likely beast is town. and i can't figure out who among AK, prohawk and Titus makes any sense as scum here.

Vote: notscience

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:40 pm
by Titus
I like ns as scum but I still get the feeling there won't be enough VTs.

Ahhh GuyinFreezer, why does NS insisting there's a godfather mean he's expecting you to flip town?

Maybe I'll figure this out tomorrow.