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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:21 am
by Hello Kitty Creampuff
In post 1218, Antihero wrote:tick tock, SMP

if you were who you say you are, the obvious choice would have been kdub
I'm pretty lost on this as well, I would have thought sangres, or me, or something.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:21 am
by Jake from State Farm
In post 1218, Antihero wrote:tick tock, SMP

if you were who you say you are, the obvious choice would have been kdub
Actually I would have been the ideal target

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:22 am
by SMP
In post 1218, Antihero wrote:tick tock, SMP

if you were who you say you are, the obvious choice would have been kdub
Scar was a scumread early on and faded into the background towards the end of the day. Figured he stopped posting that much when the wagon turned on me/HS for a reason not completely related to him being V/LA for a little bit. Obviously I was wrong since he's vanilla.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:25 am
by zMuffinMan
fwiw i don't think anti actually has anything that conflicts with SMP's claim and is just doing a dumb gambit because he thinks SMP is scum

there are also only a few people i could see him being scum with if he's a scum rolecop coz lol who the fuck targets someone who just replaced in?

/still haven't read shit prior to p48 outside of mod ISO

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:26 am
by Antihero
jake actually would have been a better one

@mara: because kdub already claimed non-vanilla. but actually, now that jake mentions it, he would have been better; if SMP got a "non-vanilla, no action" result, that would have cleared jake.

p.edit: well, wait a second, doesn't your "result" just say that he's vanilla? according to that, he could still be a scum goon and just not have done the kill.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:28 am
by SMP
In post 1229, Antihero wrote:jake actually would have been a better one

@mara: because kdub already claimed non-vanilla. but actually, now that jake mentions it, he would have been better; if SMP got a "non-vanilla, no action" result, that would have cleared jake.

p.edit: well, wait a second, doesn't your "result" just say that he's vanilla? according to that, he could still be a scum goon and just not have done the kill.
Correct. All I got was that he's a vanilla who didn't do anything last night.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:29 am
by Kdub
In post 1224, sangres wrote:
In post 1223, Kdub wrote:
In post 1221, fferyllt wrote:You said you could accept an SMP lynch before Antihero claimed he's lying.
Yes I did. I don't get the point of this comment.
Your post I was responding to made it sound like Antihero's soft claim led to your willlingness to see SMP lynched. That doesn't line up with your earlier post.
First of all, I don't agree and think you are nitpicking here. Secondly, even if that really were my intention, what are you trying to suggest about my motivation for doing so? If you think that's scummy, explain my scum motivation here.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:30 am
by Hello Kitty Creampuff
... no he didn't

and why do you think he's a vanilla cop, and not the rolecop he is claiming to be

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:30 am
by Antihero
In post 1228, zMuffinMan wrote:fwiw i don't think anti actually has anything that conflicts with SMP's claim and is just doing a dumb gambit because he thinks SMP is scum

there are also only a few people i could see him being scum with if he's a scum rolecop coz lol who the fuck targets someone who just replaced in?

/still haven't read shit prior to p48 outside of mod ISO
no, i don't do fake guilties

clarification: at least a blocking component of action.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:31 am
by Kdub
Anti, I did not claim anything. I'd rather not discuss it further.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:32 am
by Antihero
In post 1232, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:... no he didn't

and why do you think he's a vanilla cop, and not the rolecop he is claiming to be
because he's claiming "vanilla or non-vanilla" results. rolecops get roles. vanilla cops get "vanilla or non-vanilla".

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:33 am
by sangres
In post 1231, Kdub wrote:
In post 1224, sangres wrote:
In post 1223, Kdub wrote:
In post 1221, fferyllt wrote:You said you could accept an SMP lynch before Antihero claimed he's lying.
Yes I did. I don't get the point of this comment.
Your post I was responding to made it sound like Antihero's soft claim led to your willlingness to see SMP lynched. That doesn't line up with your earlier post.
First of all, I don't agree and think you are nitpicking here. Secondly, even if that really were my intention, what are you trying to suggest about my motivation for doing so? If you think that's scummy, explain my scum motivation here.
It's an oblique edgewise stance you're taking, and that pings pretty damn hard.

I can see you posting this way as scum regardless of SMP's flip. by not coming out so strong that you'd have difficulty walking it back if the momentum shifts a little.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:34 am
by sangres
In post 1235, Antihero wrote:
In post 1232, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:... no he didn't

and why do you think he's a vanilla cop, and not the rolecop he is claiming to be
because he's claiming "vanilla or non-vanilla" results. rolecops get roles. vanilla cops get "vanilla or non-vanilla".
role cops get "vanilla" if they cop vt or goon.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:34 am
by zMuffinMan
antihero wrote:at least a blocking component of action
just be 100% clear here, then

did you target SMP with something last night that would have prevented him getting a result? yes or no

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:36 am
by Antihero
yes

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:38 am
by zMuffinMan
give me an estimate on the likelihood your night action would have been interfered with in some way as scum

coz if this is actually a 1v1 then wheeeeeeeeeeeee not reading shit til D3

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:40 am
by zMuffinMan
by scum* even

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:44 am
by Antihero
one in a frickin' million

the only one i can think of is scum redirector, but what are the odds that scum redirected
from
a town SMP to someone else? approaching zero.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:47 am
by zMuffinMan
then i'm officially not reading shit til D3

see you tomorrow

i'll leave the voting to others in case they want to say something

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:48 am
by zMuffinMan
though i will say that i thought whatever the fuck happened at the start of the day phase involved bussing if he is scum

coz

lol

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:51 am
by Kdub
In post 1236, sangres wrote:It's an oblique edgewise stance you're taking, and that pings pretty damn hard.

I can see you posting this way as scum regardless of SMP's flip. by not coming out so strong that you'd have difficulty walking it back if the momentum shifts a little.
If your complaint is just about the strength of my words, fine. That's subjective and there isn't anything I can say other than "you're wrong". If your complaint is about my actual stance on SMP, then you still haven't addressed what my possible scum motivation would be.

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:54 am
by borkjerfkin
Votecount 2.2


[4] SMP (sangres, Aegor, Antihero, Jake From State Farm)

[7] Not Voting (Aj The Epic, BROseidon, Kdub, Mac, zMuffinMan, SMP, Hello Kitty Creampuff)

With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-05-12 01:00:00)

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:15 am
by sangres
In post 1245, Kdub wrote:
In post 1236, sangres wrote:It's an oblique edgewise stance you're taking, and that pings pretty damn hard.

I can see you posting this way as scum regardless of SMP's flip. by not coming out so strong that you'd have difficulty walking it back if the momentum shifts a little.
If your complaint is just about the strength of my words, fine. That's subjective and there isn't anything I can say other than "you're wrong". If your complaint is about my actual stance on SMP, then you still haven't addressed what my possible scum motivation would be.
Who did you come into the game day wanting to push?

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:22 am
by zMuffinMan
hm was brushing teeth and started thinking

if he was roleblocked, why did he claim a result? even if he is scum, smart option is just to be honest and claim roleblocked

so if he is scum, either he is what he claimed he is and got lucky guessing my role and is lying stupidly about it when he knows somebody blocked him orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr he's scum who doesn't have an action that he'd know was blocked in which case that's a really weird fake claim

or something i'm not thinking of right now

anyway. sleep time

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:34 am
by Aegor
Anti,

Please confirm that there is basically no chance whatsoever your action failed for any reason.

In post 1184, Kdub wrote:I don't have strong feelings about SMP based on his play, but I can accept an SMP lynch based on him being a counterwagon to HS/me yesterday, plus just POE since I have a lot of town reads at the moment.

Aegor, why are you voting SMP?
In post 1219, Kdub wrote: That's right. Can you really say you have strong feelings about someone who has barely posted (unless you are basing it on meta)?
Yes, I can. And that is actually exactly why I am voting SMP.
In post 1202, Jake from State Farm wrote:
i'm torn cause I don't believe the claim
but antihero can't be trusted either
If you do not believe the claim, then anything anti says or does should still be irrelevant.
In post 1231, Kdub wrote: First of all, I don't agree and think you are nitpicking here. Secondly, even if that really were my intention, what are you trying to suggest about my motivation for doing so? If you think that's scummy, explain my scum motivation here.
Please give us your opinion of SMP at the beginning of the day in more detail than in your first post.