X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (Game Over)

[Titus]

Reasons aren't enough for you, Titus? Well, you can't exactly complain that people are calling you

unreasonable

, then.

-Cheese

No. I WANT THEM. I want reasons. I need to see them. I need something I can understand. ~reasons~ aren't reasons but rather, just trust me I don't want to tell you shit.

Well sorry. If all I get is ~reasons~ I have no reason to change my mind. Articulate, communicate, reason.

[Macaronis and Cheese]

I've tried that before and it was *quite* fruitless, if you will recall.

-Cheese

[Titus]

No. I just heard people saying he's dumb. Dumb is not a reason to townread someone. Point to me a townie post. That's a reason.

[Rogue]

How is Titus town? Just show me. I don't want Titus to show me, I want you to. Titus is still up in arms about how Eek and I are a scum team trying to disrail the Eek wagon.

You are going to have to do one hell of a job to get me off of Titus.

-Beast

How much have you played with titus

[Macaronis and Cheese]

No. I just heard people saying he's dumb. Dumb is not a reason to townread someone. Point to me a townie post. That's a reason.

Thinking of something else... Not sure how much I can say.

-Cheese

[Feu et Vol]

How is Titus town? Just show me. I don't want Titus to show me, I want you to. Titus is still up in arms about how Eek and I are a scum team trying to disrail the Eek wagon.

You are going to have to do one hell of a job to get me off of Titus.

-Beast

How much have you played with titus

I would say at least 5 games off the top of my head. I will look for a firm number for you though.

-Beast

[ika]

How is Titus town? Just show me. I don't want Titus to show me, I want you to. Titus is still up in arms about how Eek and I are a scum team trying to disrail the Eek wagon.

You are going to have to do one hell of a job to get me off of Titus.

-Beast

How much have you played with titus

Mind if i ask the very same thing while we are pointless speculating?

Or we could just ask titus herself? Odds are i have played the most with her out of anyone here.

pedit: not bad.

[Titus]

How is Titus town? Just show me. I don't want Titus to show me, I want you to. Titus is still up in arms about how Eek and I are a scum team trying to disrail the Eek wagon.

You are going to have to do one hell of a job to get me off of Titus.

-Beast

How much have you played with titus

We've played with each other for a little more than a year. I'm not sure if I've been scum with beast but he's seen a fair amount of my town tunneling but right and wrong.

Wrong: Mini Normal where I was vig and thought a town player was scum. Vigged him. We won flawlessly otherwise.

Right: TIP scum in Open 526. Let town persuade me. We lost flawlessly and I was lynched Day 1.

[Rogue]

I don't need one

Would you say scum-titus decides to butt heads with someone who's really good at making themselves look town and a strong overall town player right out the gate?

Would you say scum-titus would push unconventional reads despite the entire thread yelling at her otherwise

Would you say scum-titus would think to claim early so we have a safe lynch to jump out to later?

pedit-

@Ika I've played less with her than you have but I grow bored of your PL bullshit

[Feu et Vol]

I would say town Titus is not this desperate and survivalistic, and town Titus isn't dumb / doesn't play dumb.

M

[Rogue]

I have an issue seeing survivalism when she offered herself up as an alternative lynch earlier

[Feu et Vol]

Titus doesn't give a shit who they are butting heads with. They would but heads with a freaking Triceratops. Titus is not one to get intimidated. So yes she would butt heads with Bork.

Also, 5 is my number of the Titus account including 1 hydra they were in.

-Beast

[Rogue]

tbf

I'm losing a lot of steam

so you guys just do whatever

I really don't care

[Rogue]

VOTE: titus

because mala thinks she's scum

[Feu et Vol]

Also, Beast and I both individually came to a Titus scumread, which is awesome and makes those annoying potential doubts go away.

Titus is scum and shouldn't be allowed to coast on a meta townread that's basically just "she's antagonistic", because guess what? That's a personality trait, not an alignment tell.

M

Pedit you're extrapolating too much from an early claim. It's an early claim. I can see Titus as reckless scum very easily.

What I mean by survivalistic is her attitude toward Eek obvtowning hard with his lynch requirements. Refusing to give a single inch and refusing to acknowledge the blatant, obvious reasons for Eek's actions, instead choosing to say she's fighting Eek's proposal because if she unvoted so then she would be voted instead? Seriously?

That and "if I unvote and feu is scum, feu will just unvote so we can't get the objective!! So I can't unvote!!!! *ignores how if I was scum that would be a pretty blatant scum claim and ignores the fact that the wagon can just build from another person in our neighborhood as is possible in every single mafia game because guess what unvoting and revoting is a thing*"

Pretty much total bullshit~

M

[Titus]

I'm not playing survivalistic. I've been eliminating players from my scumpool and I'm not desperate either.

Nothing I've also done is dumb.

Where's the town Marquis troll? Scum Marquis doesn't troll. I've seen a lot of Marquis not trolling as scum. It's a pretty reliable tell.

You've also seen me push an argument on scum you too my grave.

Town then lynched you and we won.

Keep flailing.

[Titus]

VOTE: titus

because mala thinks she's scum

Mala's been burned by me one too many times. Sucks having a scum game that's epic and a town game where no one listens but that's the curse I bear. If I'm lynched promise me you'll at least LISTEN to what I say after I'm dead.

[Titus]

Also, Beast and I both individually came to a Titus scumread, which is awesome and makes those annoying potential doubts go away.

Titus is scum and shouldn't be allowed to coast on a meta townread that's basically just "she's antagonistic", because guess what? That's a personality trait, not an alignment tell.

M

Pedit you're extrapolating too much from an early claim. It's an early claim. I can see Titus as reckless scum very easily.

What I mean by survivalistic is her attitude toward Eek obvtowning hard with his lynch requirements. Refusing to give a single inch and refusing to acknowledge the blatant, obvious reasons for Eek's actions, instead choosing to say she's fighting Eek's proposal because if she unvoted so then she would be voted instead? Seriously?

That and "if I unvote and feu is scum, feu will just unvote so we can't get the objective!! So I can't unvote!!!! *ignores how if I was scum that would be a pretty blatant scum claim and ignores the fact that the wagon can just build from another person in our neighborhood as is possible in every single mafia game because guess what unvoting and revoting is a thing*"

Pretty much total bullshit~

M

Nope. You pretty much moved to get off of Eek right after you had a plausible excuse to do so, as I predicted. How many people are calling you scum? Oh yeah right me and my obvtown rightness for once.

[Rogue]

I will

[Titus]

If I am the lynch, let me give you the answers before I die. That's the one thing I ask.

Lynching me is stupid but if the only way town gets a brain is my death. Fine. It's what has to be done.

[Titus]

I will

Thank you.

[Macaronis and Cheese]

To be fair, the fact that you were so anti-hammering Eek seems to indicate a kind of survivalism.

-Cheese

[ika]

I don't need one

Would you say scum-titus decides to butt heads with someone who's really good at making themselves look town and a strong overall town player right out the gate?

Would you say scum-titus would push unconventional reads despite the entire thread yelling at her otherwise

Would you say scum-titus would think to claim early so we have a safe lynch to jump out to later?

pedit-

@Ika I've played less with her than you have but I grow bored of your PL bullshit

im not pl titus, im lynchinger her b/c i belive shes legit scum. as well as me answering these:

yes she would butt head with anyone she does it regardless of alignments
yes she would do that in attempts to spread mist. as well as her just being able to go "there town leave me alone"
i could make a huge fucking essay on this one but i will be breif: titus does not do sub-optimal plays. her claiming is a suboptimal thing FMPOV based off how she plays. me claiming role and rolefishing is default by me.

assuming this is ns, you have to learn that titus town vs scum have very little diffrences in temrs of what you look for (tunnling, butting heads, things of those)

if you want to talk about titus meta i can pull up the games that i have played with titus from here and the other 2 sites for side by side comparisons of her town and scum games with me

[Feu et Vol]

I'm not playing survivalistic. I've been eliminating players from my scumpool and I'm not desperate either.

Nothing I've also done is dumb.

Where's the town Marquis troll? Scum Marquis doesn't troll. I've seen a lot of Marquis not trolling as scum. It's a pretty reliable tell.

You've also seen me push an argument on scum you too my grave.

Town then lynched you and we won.

Keep flailing.

jfc

Your whole argument for refusing to admit that I'm obvtown and not a valid lynch alternative to you in your neighborhood rests on the false premise that "marquis always trolls as town".

Meta me.

No, not you, Titus. You're scum. That was directed at anyone who is even thinking of taking Titus' completely meta-misrepresentative "evidence" seriously. Actually she has no evidence. Oops.

Secondly the very idea of me trolling in this game in particular is something I feel like I've had to throw back in your face over and over again. When you have the chance to get potentially the best town power available in any game through simply policy lynching and predicting policy lynches within the first 24 hours, as well as keeping your votes controlled, don't fucking expect me to be like -some- people and throw it away for a bit of fun.

Trying to reduce my whole town play style to "trolling and useless all day every day" and repeatedly just asking for me to troll is not something I can see you doing as town.

You know me better than that, and right now you're scum reducing my image to a simple and easily mislynchable caricature of myself.

And if you're not dead today, you will be tomorrow. I will make sure that happens- to the best of my ability that is.

M

[Titus]

No. I wasn't anti-hammering Eek. I was anti-dissolving his wagon.

His whole stunt was to dissolve his wagon. If Brian or Bork was after me, I have ZERO problem being hammer. I just don't want Feu to unvote (and claim paranoia on me) because Feu is scum.

If I unvoted, I was scum because I was complying with my scumread. If I didn't unvote, we got this scenario where I was painted as survivalistic.


The common sense thing to do, if we have a scum wagon is to stay the fuck put if the right neighborhood is leading.