and me playing a CYOA game with porkens is pretty benign compared to shit I've done in other games
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:25 pm
by Skygazer
In post 1224, Titus wrote:People revisit reads. Were you just hoping to coast on a strong open?
People are definitely allowed to revisit reads, it just looks weird to see someone hard scum-read me, proceed to color me green, then go back and flip flop on it.
But honestly I think flip-flopping can be a town tell unless it's for opportunism
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:26 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 1222, Skygazer wrote:But while Lady Angel is lurking here her posts are generally less verbose than her scum posts from Lynch the Wolves.
this is a fair point.
In post 1223, Skygazer wrote:this flip flopping isn't really consistent with you coloring me green earlier tbh
its less of a flip flop and more of a "yeah, I could see both sides" since you know things are in shades of gray and if you only see something as red then you are conf biased as hell.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:27 pm
by Skygazer
I'm more wary of Mastina coming in and hard town-reading me for kind of vague meta reasons. I've been incorrectly meta'd several times as town but very rarely correctly meta'd as town. Veryyyyyy fishy
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:29 pm
by Skygazer
To me this game state is indicating to me that scum is kind of content with the chaos.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:30 pm
by Skygazer
Nero, why are you town reading Nos?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:33 pm
by Lady Angel
In post 1218, Nero Cain wrote:how come you aren't playing? Why didn't you comment on being wagoned earlier?
I had a lot of non-mafia related commitments to take care of this week, this was the first chance I've gotten since maybe late friday to really read. I usually skip or low-post through day 1, since analyzing posts is very much not my strong point when nobody's flipped yet.
Speaking of, I don't have a really strong feeling on anyone so far, except Vecna, whose whole great cornholio thing is just annoying. So I don't really have anything to add right now.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:36 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1216, Lady Angel wrote:What's the difference between me and all the other low posters/lurkers in this game? I don't see anything seperating the case on me from being on any other of them, other than people picking me for some reason.
The fact your attempts at contribution have been shallow?
In post 1231, Lady Angel wrote:Speaking of, I don't have a really strong feeling on anyone so far, except Vecna, whose whole great cornholio thing is just annoying. So I don't really have anything to add right now.
if your sole thought about this game is that Vecna is annoying then why do you want to lynch him? Do you think anyone would follow you on that?
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:41 pm
by Skygazer
i mean the vax read was on what is now conf town
the porkens read is kinda eh
i just haven't seen anything from him that i liken to town
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:51 pm
by Lady Angel
In post 1234, Nero Cain wrote:if your sole thought about this game is that Vecna is annoying then why do you want to lynch him? Do you think anyone would follow you on that?
Honestly, no. The vote was more a frustration one than anything, and I don't have anything better to put a vote on right now.
No please if you feel like that replace out already. I don't care about your alignment when it's about how not fun you are to play a game with
I said ONE THING about you being scummy and you wrote a novel about it
and YOU KEEP ACCUSING ME OF TUNNELING when I'm the only one voting you and it was only for less than 2 days.
You keep doing this ate shit like it means anything and for some reason, no one else finds your attitude scummy but me
~Sora
Spoiler:
Pronoun: She
Post Post #309 (isolation #6) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:02 pm
I mainly do NKA because it's kind of insane that scum teams can get away with that shit so often
True competence is ensuring your confidence is justified.
"Ank doesn't have bad reads. She's just bad at explaining them." -CheekyTeeky
Top
Ankamius
Survivor
User avatar
Joined: May 09, 2011
Pronoun: She
Post Post #308 (isolation #7) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:01 pm
It's a blueprint for how scum are playing the game
The building when it's done and finished will never look quite like the blueprint and in fact might have had some major restructuring at a whim at certain points... But it's a way to track how the process could have gone as a method of solving what other potential clues mean.
True competence is ensuring your confidence is justified.
"Ank doesn't have bad reads. She's just bad at explaining them." -CheekyTeeky
Top
Ankamius
Survivor
User avatar
Joined: May 09, 2011
Pronoun: She
Post Post #305 (isolation #8) » Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:53 pm
NKA is very strong, especially when there are weird kills going on
Nancy and Kokichi are weird kills until you really dig deep into them: scum aren't killing the biggest scumhunting threats, so they are probably off on reads. They aren't killing the slots holding town together, so town's collective reads are probably off. They're killing gunsmith claims, so it's plausible that it's for me difficulty narrowing the field down or because the scum in that pool will be able to hide more easily.
But the biggest thing that is damning for how scum is playing is the Dunnstral kill. This particular trick is a favorite of mine when I play scum; Dunnstral was quite useful for then because of his death tunnel on muffin... and it's no accident that both of them died at the same time. That's strong evidence that scum are in control of the gamestate, not town.
So, how you would find scum here is:
1. Look at who was pushing Muffin yesterday
2. Look at who was steering lynches away from Muffin
3. Look at who has been making stances and posts that actively push against town cohesion
I'll give you one guess as to who that probably leads to.
This is from Ank, taken from Hourglass dead thread. Nero, this was my main concern here, not being mislynched. I don’t think this concern is unreasonable.
In post 1163, Rylai and Lina wrote:ok vecna has a restriction to say the sentences in that wiki nico posted earlier about Cornholio.
or he is pretending to have something like that.
~Sora
this
also, IC please stop. You aren't getting lynched today. Your hissy fight with Sora is distracting from scumhunting.
Please read my Ank posts. I agree and hope that this doesn’t become an issue later in the game.
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:18 pm
by Innocent Children
In post 1165, Rylai and Lina wrote:my vote is perfectly fine and my read is great and on point about your gambit even if you're faking it as town in your games too. but feel free to bang your head as much as you like. I won't stop you.
I didn't made up my mind about your slot. and I have no new questions from you. if there is anything you want to discuss I'm more than happy to talk about it and answer
~Sora
I did ask you questions, you just never answered them. I asked you about your current thoughts on Mastina.
In post 1167, Innocent Children wrote:How? FA just said they get separate votes. Great, so 2 wasted votes on our slot every freaking week we stay alive. \o/
Are you fucking kidding me?!
UNVOTE:
is this better now?
Just fucking move on.
The following is 100% happening:
I will vote you at eod if you post one more shit about this in
I will vote you at eod if you fail to show me towny content - the thing your slot lacks so far
and I will vote you at eod if you show another fake naiveness gambit thing again.
and yes this time I will for real tunnel you
~Sora
You know damn well I cannot promse to not misunderstand something. So don’t bother threatening me ffs! :
Like so I have to pester RC, rather then ask questions in the thread? Jesus fuck!
In post 1177, Nosferatu wrote:i dont find it scummy because ive long since tuned out of the interaction
Please teach me how to accomplish this.
ive spent my childhood on this game and am now completely jaded
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:32 pm
by Innocent Children
In post 1178, Nero Cain wrote:no, I think the massive ATe is kinda scummy too but even if she's scum then there are still 4 more. Let's find those.
I’m not and if you ISO any of my town games besides Labrynth - where I was IC - so doesn’t count, you will see that is NAI. I don’t react well to being wrongly scumread - especially for bad reasons, I never have and all of my games 100% back that up.
No please if you feel like that replace out already. I don't care about your alignment when it's about how not fun you are to play a game with
I said ONE THING about you being scummy and you wrote a novel about it
and YOU KEEP ACCUSING ME OF TUNNELING when I'm the only one voting you and it was only for less than 2 days.
You keep doing this ate shit like it means anything and for some reason, no one else finds your attitude scummy but me
~Sora
+1 Sounds like IC is trying to create a trust tell.
What does that even mean? I think that sort of thing is against the rules - trust tells - which is pretty clear I’m NOT doing here. TW said pretty much the same thing about Shoshin in Labrynth.