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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:59 pm
by implosion
Certainly we can think about it in terms of dynamics like, if ame is scum with amrun+elmo or some other pair that's unlikely to have either person get heavened, maybe she doesn't want to get heavened as strongly. But it's still a crapshoot.
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:00 pm
by implosion
In post 1224, Team STRQ wrote: In post 1222, implosion wrote:I.e. scum perfectly possibly could have thought "this is great, we're getting Ame into heaven, that's great, only one more and we win"
or they could have thought "man, it'd be great if we could avoid heavening Ame for a phase or two, so that she can stay on earth and fuck with the town's reads from a position of authority"
there is no way to use logic to distinguish between which of these scum were thinking. For all we know they might have been ambivalent between the two!
Ame's big wall was made from the position of knowing she was going to be heavened, so that's a good place to start narrowing things down.
-Summer
A big wall made from the position of knowing that you're going to be heavened, especially from a scum player playing as craftily and thinking as deeply as Ame seems to have been, is precisely the kind of thing that we have no reason to read deeply in to...
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:00 pm
by implosion
That wall was, for all intents and purposes, Ame just cementing that she was going to heaven. She knew that we'd know she was scum when evaluating it about a day after she posted it.
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:08 pm
by Team STRQ
And does that tell you anything implo?
-Summer
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:11 pm
by Team STRQ
(Hint: if she made that wall post to cement getting heavened, then that says she either is confident that scum will get heavened or that she can coach them into getting heavened)
-Summer
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:12 pm
by Team STRQ
And in either case, scum were play with the gamestate as it was
Does this not work with a pops/looker team?
-Summer
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:12 pm
by Team STRQ
Were okay*
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:26 pm
by Team STRQ
Another worthwhile question to ask yourself
Why does wooper die by plurality on hell 1?
-Summer
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:12 pm
by implosion
Again I think this is waaaay less important than you seem to
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:58 pm
by Team STRQ
Fine. What IS important to you?
-Summer
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:31 pm
by Looker
Proper pocket; well played
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Should've went when you had the chance.
VOTE: Elmo
- @Team STRQ: Come harder than that, Summer
- Ame already had all that stuff written out before this game
I think this is a much more fun version of Mafia.
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:45 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
Oh look a scum vote.
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:45 am
by Amrun
Welp. Not what I expected at all so I’m actually pretty happy, despite it not being ideal. I didn’t think Ame would flip red.
This gives me something to analyze with new eyes.
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:15 am
by Something_Smart
Semi.
If you are very confident that Amrun is town, I will trust it and not vote Amrun if you flip town.
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:59 am
by popsofctown
You rolled town didn't you
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:04 am
by popsofctown
In post 1211, implosion wrote:Though Amrun randomly pushing Ame is suspect in principal? I imagine that's where some of it's coming from?
Yeah, this, it heavily fits the pattern of a scum that knows they're getting lynched this game accomplishing something before they go, and knowing that the lost town equity on their own slot doesn't matter because they are were already getting lynched this game anyway.
I wish I had a name for this pattern. Just won a scumgame by hardbussing after my slot became irredeemable and set up a partner to deepwolf that way.
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:12 am
by popsofctown
In post 1229, Team STRQ wrote:(Hint: if she made that wall post to cement getting heavened, then that says she either is confident that scum will get heavened or that she can coach them into getting heavened)
-Summer
VOTE: Team STRQ
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:21 am
by popsofctown
That came out weird
I was going to ask for an explanation of STRQ's nonsense post but then decided I am too far gone wanting to vote them anyway in a way that makes me not care.
Summer is making no sense, probably because the idea of winning from heavening 2 scum versus reaching parity +1 on earth is being heavily discussed in a scum PT where everyone can see the numbers after each potential lynch or mislynch. From an actual townie perspective it's way too unfathomable, being smart enough to discern that requires you also to be smart enough to identify the whole scumteam basically. This setup is designed for us to hell scum and heaven town.
S_S is mimicking his town meta with a rushed vote and if he were scum with STRQ!town I think he would be too shy to see how other players re-evaluate off the Ame flip to take a strong stance like this so early in the day (even if he was aware this was an opportunity to mimic his town meta). Only I and maybe one other person had posted and iirc I didn't comment on STRQ, just anti-Amrun.
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:43 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
I won't lie this game has been nothing but a shit show. From Day 1 to now. My reads are all over the place. I wish you all would have heavened me. But what can I say.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:29 pm
by Dannflor
Four players are currently in prod range, with the rest of the player list about to follow.
Bumping the thread instead of sending out a mass prod. |
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:38 pm
by Amrun
I kinda forgot about this game. Coronavirus hysteria is kicking my ass at work right now. But I actually had some stuff I was meaning to do here so I’m working on that now.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:02 pm
by implosion
i need to see a vote count to know what i want to do atm. don't really have the motivation to push the game forward atm either.
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