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In post 1221, Drixx wrote:Sure you do. Other people that KM isn't scum reading have weighed in and said that it's reasonable to ask for brief reasoning.

And all townies are reasonable, and scum never are?

Look, if you're trying to convince me that KM's being unreasonable, you don't need to, I already came to that conclusion on my own. But if you're trying to convince me she's scum, you need to show a link between unreasonableness and a red role PM, and I'm not sure one exists.

In post 1220, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1215, Drixx wrote:So can you tell me what you're trying to accomplish here S_S? You're engaging with me pretty heavily in an attempt to defend KM here ... but I've managed basically no traction there while one of the other things I pointed out today is a viable wagon. Like ... I would like to understand what you're trying to accomplish here.

- get inside your head so I can understand and hopefully read you better

- understand exactly why you think KM is scum so I can either join your push or try to convince you to weaken your read, depending on whether I agree with your reasoning (and it seems pretty shaky right now).

KM's reaction to being asked to share brief explanation of the reads displays no town motivation. That bad reaction continues through gaps of no posts and into consecutive days. KM's reaction is inconsistent with the reasons a town player shares reads in the first place.

Like ... that's not shaky reasoning. Scum get caught because they do things that aren't plausibly town motivated all the time.

In post 1225, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 1221, Drixx wrote:Sure you do. Other people that KM isn't scum reading have weighed in and said that it's reasonable to ask for brief reasoning.

And all townies are reasonable, and scum never are?

Look, if you're trying to convince me that KM's being unreasonable, you don't need to, I already came to that conclusion on my own. But if you're trying to convince me she's scum, you need to show a link between unreasonableness and a red role PM, and I'm not sure one exists.

See above. Lack of plausible town motivation.

In post 1223, Titus wrote:@Amrun, Thoughts on Black Ranger and tictac?

I hope that this game goes exactly like Wake's Rolemadness did day 1 (minus the gunsmith). Got wagoned D1, got like 6 straight guilties.

I haven’t read any of their posts yet. I basically started playing on like page 40. >.> sorry

@Amrun, what about KM?

I'll stop going off of memory and actually read the interaction now, but saying there's NO conceivable town motivation is an extremely strong claim.

Hahahahahaha imagine BoPing me

In post 1207, Titus wrote:Ok yup tictac is scum. Willing to vote there too.

Told y’all

Titus and insomnia agreeing on a read

This must be right

Amrun not noticing me scum reading her 3 times now must mean she’s scared

You should be

VOTE: tictac

I'm a sucker for the compliment.

If kirimalboro anime is Krazy he’s scum

In post 1234, Titus wrote:VOTE: tictac

I'm a sucker for the compliment.

Easy pocket

I’m gonna treat you as tree stump as well this game titus

Can I screech at Amrun?

You should check my iso i went after tictac kindaaaaa hard

In post 1236, insomnia wrote:

In post 1234, Titus wrote:VOTE: tictac

I'm a sucker for the compliment.

Easy pocket

I’m gonna treat you as tree stump as well this game titus

Can I screech at Amrun?

You should check my iso i went after tictac kindaaaaa hard

Do what you want. I try to be laissez-faire d1.

Hello, everyone.

I'm not a big fan of Day 1. I know. Relax. Today, I'll primarily be seeing how things unfold, and maybe taking notes of anything I find interesting. Expect to see me start solving from Day 2.

Something_Smart, who do you think should be lynched over Titus/TrueSoulEnergy?

In post 1149, Kirari Momobami wrote:

In post 1147, davesaz wrote:I'm not the one claiming to have a high number of reads. And you don't get to reverse the question like that.
It's midnight:30 for me and past time to sleep. Maybe tomorrow.

Yes I do

You're making a bad faith argument and discouraging people from giving reads

Nope! I'm commenting on a conversation that's going on between a couple of other players. Nowhere does that discourage people from having reads. If anything it encourages explanations.

I have given explanations for every read asked of me in good faith

Maybe you have. I had difficulty finding the explanations you're referring to and didn't remember coming across any during normal reading, but as I said it was after midnight.

So now I want your reads with explanations since you decided to take a lazy pot shot at me

You posted this after I said I was going to sleep. Thanks for paying attention to RL limitations.

In post 1226, Drixx wrote:KM's reaction to being asked to share brief explanation of the reads displays no town motivation.

Okay, after rereading, I see not wanting to waste time doing something you don't see as useful at that stage of the game to be a plausible town motivation? Not everyone has unlimited time to play the game.

In post 934, Almost50 wrote:

In post 854, AaronFrost wrote:

In post 666, tictac wrote:i'd unvote the energy-guy, but I don't buy the claim. at all.
pedit: lol

Why does scum claim loud bodyguard, a claim which will easily be disproven if he's still alive tomorrow and no one gets the loud message?

Mate, stop being surface level (that's me trying to get FL's attention, as I somehow feel he IS ion this game under an alt).

Theoretically, he could be Loud ANYTHING (Loud Role Cop for instance). Tomorrow someone IS going to announce they were visited by TSE (or maybe the mod will. I dunno which version of Loud Wake is using). The target will be a Town read slot by most (which will justify why they was "protected"), but the fact is they were targeted by a SCUM ROLE COP and their role is now known to them.

How is that?

Now I'm not saying this must be the case. I am not voting TSE myself. But it bugs me when people go down that route, and YOU OF ALL should know better, having just been SCUM WHO FAKED A ROLE recently yourself.

I mean honestly, I feel like that claim is just self-resolving since he's most likely gonna die early. If he's still alive on like D5 then I'll be concerned. I have no interest in lynching TSE today.

In post 1165, Hectic wrote:Reads list:

Probably a combination of joke and real. Definitely not like Dolly Parton's list. I'm in catchup mode so not looking too closely.

can we lynch profil now?

In post 1177, Drixx wrote:

In post 1149, Kirari Momobami wrote:

In post 1147, davesaz wrote:I'm not the one claiming to have a high number of reads. And you don't get to reverse the question like that.
It's midnight:30 for me and past time to sleep. Maybe tomorrow.

Yes I do

You're making a bad faith argument and discouraging people from giving reads

I have given explanations for every read asked of me in good faith

So now I want your reads with explanations since you decided to take a lazy pot shot at me

VOTE: dave

pop ins to complain about impressions and reads = you can get voted

No you haven't. I asked in good faith.

PEOPLE NEED TO REMEMBER THIS WHENEVER I FLIP.

To be fair, I think Kirari is saying she wants to discuss individual reads instead of blanket statements.
Easy fix for that is to ask about each read separately.

Still in catchup mode.

In post 1154, insomnia wrote:Haven’t read any of their posts except for fonz and he good

What did you like in fonz's posting btw?

In post 1173, Drixx wrote:KM has just refused to give any thinking and reasoning whatsoever,

lol I've explained every read I've been asked in good faith

What are your reads on Fonz/Elsa/Aaron?

In post 1176, Drixx wrote:You keep referring to my posts as "angry" but I haven't had any strong emotion when reading/posting this game. I've definitely been snarky,

I haven't felt like you've been snarky at all, I've felt like most of your posts feel like someone annoyed that they are forcing themselves to play the game. I also felt like you more or less fabricated your reasons for pushing me given you didn't wait for me to give explanations for reads before tunneling me for a day while I was asleep and at work

In post 1177, Drixx wrote:No you haven't. I asked in good faith.

You did not. Town asking in good faith engages on specific reads; you never even made it clear if you disagreed with any part of the list. If I don't even have reads on 33 people in the game why do you think I want to take time to explain my initial gut takes on the 17 people I do have reads on when those reads are constantly shifting?

Furthermore giving detailed explanations on townreads in a multiball game is anti-town given you're just making it easier for scum to shoot my townreads at that point

If you were asking in good faith, you would engage me on the scumreads you did or did not agree on. Demanding explanations of townreads is anti-town in this gamestate unless you actively plan to disagree with them or push them

In post 1183, Titus wrote:I checked the ISO on this. Loud Bodyguard is pretty self resolving.

I would not have believed this with TSE, but I do believe it for you

In post 1239, davesaz wrote:Nope! I'm commenting on a conversation that's going on between a couple of other players. Nowhere does that discourage people from having reads. If anything it encourages explanations.

OK but I want to see some reads from you, with explanations

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S_S actually kinda feels town for the way he's re-evaluated and engaged with Drixx last few pages

In post 1243, Nero Cain wrote:can we lynch profil now?

sell me on profii being better than aaron or elsa?

Oh titus replaced TSE. I'll actually give the game a proper read probs thursday aussie time when I get more free time.

In post 1178, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 1167, Hectic wrote:

In post 1166, gobbledygook wrote:What is fake about me calling Pisskop’s Miller claim scum?

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VOTE: Dolly Parton

Why is the sole Miller claim in-thread confirmed scum?

Because it’s Pisskop.

You could expand on this a little.
Do you think Pisskop would claim miller as scum?
Or is this a you vs Pisskop thing regardless of the claim?

In post 1196, Titus wrote:@Drixx, I probably would have shot you. I would have shot the most likely scum candidate fmpov. In order to have you live to lylo, all of my other suspects would have to be lynched. I play to win and play friendly but I don't directly decide who wins based on friendship (unless a cognitive bias does that). So TDLR, it depends but likely you.

Not sure how this other game stuff helps this game.