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The issue here is that everyone in the game seems like they have significantly more reasons to be town than clidd but I'd be a massive hypocrite if I started pre-flipping him

3B/HEM would I guess be the "no clidd scumteam" in which case HEM has spent a fair amount of time soft-bussing/distancing

scum!Kirari D3 scenario: I will always lynch 3b. We win.

town!Kirari D3 scenarios (LL always dies):
S1 > 3b/HG - scum ML pool: {clidd, Yooh, monkey}
S2 > 3b/clidd - scum ML pool: {HG, Yooh, monkey}
S3 > 3b/Yooh - scum ML pool: {HG, clidd, monkey}
S4 > 3b/monkey - scum ML pool: {HG, clidd, Yooh}
S5 > HG/clidd - scum ML pool: {3b, Yooh, monkey}
S6 > HG/Yooh - scum ML pool: {3b, clidd, monkey}
S7 > HG/monkey - scum ML pool: {3b, clidd, Yooh}
S8 > clidd/Yooh - scum ML pool: {3b, HG, monkey}
S9 > clidd/monkey - scum ML pool: {3b, HG, Yooh}
S10 > Yooh/monkey - scum ML pool: {3b, HG, clidd}

Choose your own adventure.

oh wow we were doing the same thing

This would make the "why are you townreading this, you should be scumreading 3b" stuff TMI from HEM which I guess I don't hate, it also would require 3b's "let's lynch someone already" to come from scum on day 1 which would be... uhh unusual

I feel like none of those solves are ideal tbh, but I do really think clidd is a very high % hit now

In post 1227, humaneatingmonkey wrote:oh wow we were doing the same thing

yee

a) what do you think of clidd/3B?
b) what do you think the likelihood that Holden hard white knighted me today as scum is?

My metaread is correct, im not surprised.

I still don't really feel good removing yooh from PoE for his massive AtE dump even if it's like... at least kinda hard to see that coming from scum

I do think this game gets a lot more readable with clidd redflip tho

In post 1231, clidd wrote:My metaread is correct, im not surprised.

Care to elaborate?

Also: Kirari, I think you're overestimating me, in this game I played with low attention/energy, so I'm not being the player you expected.

I feel like clidd wants to say stuff and I think I need to move away from this game for the night for blood pressure actually this time

I REALLY wanted to earlier and then LL came in.

BTW roleclaiming and pushing a lynch on someone 1 hour and 20 minutes after they say they'd like to take a break from the game is not a good way to get an interaction with someone when they're in a good mood or on an even keel

In post 1234, clidd wrote:Also: Kirari, I think you're overestimating me, in this game I played with low attention/energy, so I'm not being the player you expected.

well town up and solve

Here, I'll promise (expired on 2020-04-22 11:22:16) of me not posting since that seems to be what everyone wants, including me

Well, if you're town, I think I have good chances of being lynched tomorrow by having a null ISO.

No pressure then. It's like "solve it or you lose".

In post 1233, LuckyLuciano wrote:

In post 1231, clidd wrote:My metaread is correct, im not surprised.

Care to elaborate?

Yes, I will do it tomorrow. I need to think right now.

S1 > 3b/HG - scum ML pool: {clidd, Yooh, monkey}
S2 > 3b/clidd - scum ML pool: {HG, Yooh, monkey}
S3 > 3b/Yooh - scum ML pool: {HG, clidd, monkey}

S5 > HG/clidd - scum ML pool: {3b, Yooh, monkey}
S6 > HG/Yooh - scum ML pool: {3b, clidd, monkey}

S8 > clidd/Yooh - scum ML pool: {3b, HG, monkey}



I'm just gonna go ahead and remove myself from the list.

I can't eliminate Yooh from the pool because it might be a tactic to draw out the tracker. I must have missed it, but I don't know how it became about you being a PR when it wasn't the point raised (it was you around Alo's wagon.) And I think that if it's Yooh and anyone else not 3b, without a tracker, they would have won the game. My problem with that is I don't think Yooh is scum from their posts (tone read). Yooh could easily just be selling us the performance of a lifetime.

I don't think I'm giving 3b a fair chance since I lock-scummed him too early for his D1 performance. I think I've ignored most of his D2 posts, and that's why I need to re-read the thread with the exact purpose of getting a town!3bounty perspective.

Same goes for all. I think I need to re-read the thread already and stop procrastinating. Hopefully within this day phase.

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There's enough between HEM and Kirari day 1 to assume they are not SvS. I might entertain scum!Yooh. I think I'm going to fully pre-flip for every possible solve and see which one makes the most sense, something I typically wait until LYLO to do. Before that, I'm going to look at the day 2 VCA.

Luciano, help me. Do a solve without Scum!Kirari, Monkey and Clidd. I need your pov on this theory.

Any solve from my PoV that doesn't involve Scum!Kirari is going to be forced and necessitate confbiasing reads because 1192.

It's just theory, don't worry. Do it.

I believe that I will have to do an intense research with the remaining day time. If Kirari is scum, I'll look stupid, but ok.

In post 1245, clidd wrote:It's just theory, don't worry. Do it.

If I have energy left for this game after I finish working out a solve that actually has a chance of being correct, sure.

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