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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:22 pm
by Froppy
What if they managed to find another PR there is also a 50/50 that the detective was even selected.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:23 pm
by Dunnstral
How about if the tracker found a vt, they claim first, and then hider claims?
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:25 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 1225, Froppy wrote:What if they managed to find another PR there is also a 50/50 that the detective was even selected.
Even if hider outs, they can continue investigating people
If mafia ignores the tracker and double kills the hider/their target from within the poe pool, we also win, I believe
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:07 am
by Aristophanes
Hey, so, before you guys vote to get rid of me for arguing against both Red flips thus far, consider that I would never have done that as scum!
It's about all I've got, here. I'm town tho.
I'll see about rooting out that last scum before the day is up.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:13 am
by Aristophanes
Tracker can't be 100% sure they got a VT other than last night phase, but I agree that a massclaim can only benefit us right now! We have 3 Miselims before we hit ELo. Game should run itself now, unless the last scum is some kind of god!
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:21 am
by Battle Mage
massclaim probably good. Dunnstral speculation bad. I'll be back tonight with more wisdom so we can wrap this one up. Don't get too trigger happy in the meantime please.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:27 am
by Dunnstral
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:35 am
by Dunnstral
ok... I'll start us off
I'm the
Tracker
Night 1 - Aristophanes didn't perform the kill
Night 2 - Battle Mage went nowhere
The second result is the most important, Battle Mage is confirmed to be
Town and VT
So that's one of two town VTs accounted for, we need one more for a win today
So if the hider thinks it's a good idea, they can claim next. If they don't do that, it's fine if I die tonight - I got my result out and there's another investigative, and they can skip over Battle Mage and I in the hider charts
(It doesn't really matter that I revealed him as vt since I'm a primary target anyway)
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:49 am
by Battle Mage
you tracked me last night? what was the point of that?!
I was essentially conftown anyway...
Not to worry, I think this game is pretty much in the bag anyway.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:50 am
by Battle Mage
dont worry the speculation was fine actually, I was distracted and not thinking properly.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:53 am
by Battle Mage
seriously though, imagine not tracking Nash or Drew.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:55 am
by Battle Mage
Did Aristophanes visit anyone N1? I'm assuming not, based on his weird posting so far today.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:56 am
by Dunnstral
I didn't want to overlap with other prs
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:57 am
by Dunnstral
There's no reason for me to claim that
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:59 am
by Battle Mage
I'll be amazed if we can't make it a clean sweep today if we finish the massclaim quickly, and spend some time going through the voting patterns and interactions.
Key is: no rush.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:02 am
by Battle Mage
It's a massclaim. No offence, but your claim hasn't told us anything really apart from the fact you are town if you don't get cc'd. At least we can narrow down the pool today with 2 more conftowns (hider and other PR), and then we can actually solve it with maximum information.
You were right to suggest it, but if we're doing it, let's not fk around?
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:04 am
by Battle Mage
Ok so, for clarity,
EVERYONE SHOULD CLAIM IMMEDIATELY
:
Nash
Battle Mage - Vanilla
Aristophanes
Gypyx
Looker
superbowl9
Froppy
Doctor Drew
Dunnstral - Tracker
Confirms BM-town.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:06 am
by Battle Mage
if you saw Aristophanes target somebody who wasn't NKed night 1, it would also confirm them as town.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:07 am
by Battle Mage
and they aren't the hider, so there's only 1 PR they could even possibly be
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:10 am
by Battle Mage
town got annihilated last time this setup ran.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:12 am
by Gypyx
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:14 am
by Froppy
I am the Psychologist
N1: Drew - Either killed that night or VT
N2: (So I was vig hunting since the only mafia would have killed that night) Tux/Dunn
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:15 am
by Froppy
The question whether Pengy would have killed N1 and if so that would clear Doc as well.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:22 am
by Battle Mage
Nash
Aristophanes
Gypyx - Vanilla
Looker
superbowl9
Doctor Drew
Dunnstral - Tracker
Confirms BM-town.[/quote]
Not sure why Froppy is discounting the possibility of Drew as Hider, which is a distinct possibility. Although he could also be scum. Don't think that result tells us much.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:23 am
by Dunnstral
Alright with that claim it's deducible that Ari didn't target anyone night 1
Drew isn't cleared it's a 50/50 on who would shoot, which we can't figure out
we just need 1 hider result on not me/you/dead person
if not then that's fine, hider doesn't have to claim and we can make a new target list that doesn't include you + battle mage + me so we're not overlapping anything