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In post 1220, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the last time I played with suji he afk-lurk-disappeared and he was scum so I can understand the suspicion Norwee has here

Why do you think Norwee knows about that scum trait?

Just catching up on some of the previous pages:

In post 1154, skitter30 wrote:

In post 921, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 915, skitter30 wrote:That's kinda fair

Which reads overlapped?

farkran, luca, lucy, you

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ngl part of me wants to sheep luca on norwee

there's like a unvierse i suppose where scum-him decides to burn that read, but i don't think thi sis what that looks like, and if he's really that confident and accurate it might be worth it

Can you elaborate on this part? I don't quite understand

In post 1154, skitter30 wrote:

In post 922, Luca Blight wrote:I'm actually not 100% yet but I feel pretty sure

how confident would you rank it?

I stated earlier that I was 99%. Maybe that's a little extreme? But I'd definitely say above 90% at this point. I want to stay open-minded as it's still relatively early in the day, but literally nothing that Norwee has posted so far has struck me as Town

In post 1154, skitter30 wrote: edit: actually reading through more of the luca/norwee interaction i don't independantly sr norwee but i am strongly considering sheeping luca

Why?

In post 1224, LegoLucy wrote:I agree a lot but I have not connected to Farkran

Half of his anime recommendations were very lacklustre to be fair, so I understand the concerns.

maybe norwee had a similar experience with him ?

Certainly in terms of solving, Norwee hasn't done anything Townie yet from where I'm standing. The little he has done doesn't seem genuine

Most people seem to TR him for emotional reasons that I believe to be NAI

luca to elaborate a bit: i townread you fairly strongly at this point
and i believe that you have a fairly high level of accuracy at reading norwee
(you sound kinda exactly like me when i talk abt reading someone like a50 for exactly)

i think you're therefore probably on to something, and i don't know who scum is rn, so i feel like it's worth a shot

i dont' think you're scum who's pulling 'i'm super good at reading norwee and y'all should sheep me because':
- you don't seem to expect you'll get sheeped
- if you were and you misflip town nor you'll lose a load of credibility

for all of those things together, if you're actually that good at reading him, i feel reasonably decent sheeping it

and day those are, uh, reads ig

Day has smart read

:D

I read Norwee based on how he solves. When he's Town his thought-process and posting is so natural, his takes so logical, his insights so brilliant, and I tend to agree with just about everything he says. His progressions are flawless. Nothing like what I've seen this game. I could go into so much detail on this but I don't want to spoil the meta tells I have

He's capable of shitposting as either alignment, so his RVS play is NAI. I've seen him get emotional and frustrated as both alignments. I will say that frustration is more likely from Town!him, but I really believe it to be NAI in this situation due to context.

That's why I keep asking him to ignore me, because if he is Town then the only way I'll see it is from him solving.

He has flexibility as Town. I actually think he plays Town similar to how I do (style-wise, I'm not saying I'm as good). Here he feels so rigid and lacking in ideas of what to do

In post 684, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I didn’t really townread Alisae but i agree on their points that Pooky’s case looks like mostly omgus and it’s too confident for this point in the game.

In post 685, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I do lean town on Alisae now.

In post 693, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Alisae saying they regret posting when Luca/me were arguing pinged me town as well when thinking back on it, their argument that seeing if me/Luca would bring specific supporters on either team and would have been valuable input, is a town mindset.

Even this which seems ok at first glance, is so empty and surface level. It's like he's politically taking a stance and looking to justify it.

In post 534, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Sujimichi seemed to be trying very hard to escape RVS from early on so townpoints for that.
Skitter pushing Ydrasse scumread early pings mildly town.
Chara bringing up specific meta example on Ydrasse also townish.
Ydrasse emotional reaction to being pushed is not something i will base my read on her on, AtE lame.
Post 477 very town.
481, sure. But can we trust your judgement to be unbiased? I don't townread you yet so i see this as a huge threat. Fite me bro.
497, If Sujimichi's supposedly stilted posts are "all of them" it means they could just be what you see as awkward sounding at all times. This is also proved by you claiming he was stilted in a previous game.

This is what first pinged me as coming from scum

There's nothing good or insightful here. It doesn't have a genuine feel to it. In particular his defence of Suji here doesn't feel real at all to me

And his reaction to my 481 was just weird. I don't know why he says that as Town, and it's like he's trying to preemptively discredit me

how common do you form 90% read at some point during one game

Lucy what's the point of asking that question

if he feels that way every game he probably labels his 40% reads 90% because he feels excited about them

in which case it is less smart to trust his skill and vote with him

Normally it would be on a player I can read well, and I've only been wrong once so far.

I don't generally claim to have great confidence in my reads D1. Right now I don't have strong reads in this game either way apart from on Norwee

Ali is a SR but nowhere near that level

I have a feeling about Skitter being possible partners with Norwee, but again it's not a confident read

In the last game with Noree I was 100% sure on D1 he wasn't scum (he was sk doing genuine scumhunting)

When it came down to ELO I flipped my read because his play suddenly nose-dived

It's he might just be Town who hasn't vibed at all with this game yet

Now I've explained my read in more detail I'll take a step back and see what happens. I believe if he is Town I'll see it by the end of this day

In post 1234, Luca Blight wrote:I read Norwee based on how he solves. When he's Town his thought-process and posting is so natural, his takes so logical, his insights so brilliant, and I tend to agree with just about everything he says. His progressions are flawless. Nothing like what I've seen this game. I could go into so much detail on this but I don't want to spoil the meta tells I have

you can't actually believe this?

my idea of solving norwee is to just hardpush him until he cries and then he's probly town.

I have a high opinion of his Town play. He just obvtowns every time

Maybe I'm exaggerating a little on the wording but you get the point

He's actually much improved, he wasn't as good previously but he was still transparently town even then

Recently he has become a really good Town player from what I've seen

Anyway, I don't want to get bogged down on meta but there it is.

I believe Norwee has been scummy independently this game regardless. I really enjoy playing with Town!him so I'll sit back and see if he can change my mind