In post 1214, Bingle wrote:find it fascinating that it went from 0 votes to functionally E-2 overnight. (GPa is offwagon, but might as well be on wagon for how clear that progression is. I think you've been a positive influence on the thread since your rep in.
You did not post who you thought we should vote because you were worried we would sheep you too much. So we sheeped almost50 instead
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 4:39 pm
by GrandpaMo
In post 1220, Lukewarm wrote:Okay, I think that there is exactly 1 scum between T3 and Johnny.
If I had to choose an elim today, I think I am leaning T3. Mainly because I had a scum read on T3 for most of Day 1 and because of 1134, but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment.
Spoiler:
Also, would feel bad about eliming the replace in so quickly
In post 293, Dannflor wrote:@ProfDrapion, I just think T3's entrance was genuine emotionally
it's very simple and straightforward but also like the type of slightly scummy posting scum tends to want to avoid
when I look for scum entrances I look for the posters who are trying to make themselves look good
kinda doubt scum t3 shoots Dann
didnt u want t3 out??
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 4:45 pm
by GrandpaMo
In post 1218, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol
this is sorta true lol...
but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.
In post 1220, Lukewarm wrote:Okay, I think that there is exactly 1 scum between T3 and Johnny.
If I had to choose an elim today, I think I am leaning T3. Mainly because I had a scum read on T3 for most of Day 1 and because of 1134, but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment.
Spoiler:
Also, would feel bad about eliming the replace in so quickly
VOTE: T3
BRUH R U KIDDING ME. pls give me credit ;-;
i literally said this !!!
Give you credit?
Bruh. Your comments had nothing to do with my read? If anything, you said a lot of things that contradict my own position
Spoiler:
In post 1108, GrandpaMo wrote:honestly, hopefully im not wrong again but there is no way this fucking flips town.
I am not this convinced. I actually think T3 is more likely to flip scum, and therefore I think it is more likely that Johnny is Town
In post 1134, T3 wrote:Really not liking the replacement. VOTE: Johnny
If this is town the VFP is scum.
Okay, so I am gonna be busy for a lot of today, but will be back for a closer look this evening. Just doing a quick skim during my break, and this posts stood out to me. Feels like scum trying to link miselims, and honestly not sure how he came to this conclusion. Like VFP is not the loudest pusher on Jonny, and Johnny has been pushing Grandpa over VFP. Over all, confused by this post if coming from town.
Still not sure how I feel about Jonny atm. Will need to give the thread a closer look later, before I can vote.
Yea... I was thinking about if Johnny flips town, then there HAS to be mafia between VFP and T3 and I linked that earlier.
Again, we are approaching this differently. You are starting with Johnny. I am starting with 1134 is super fucking scummy, and so much so that it stood out to me on a brief scan
And like, even if some of our thoughts are aligned, that does not mean I thought them because you happened to get to the thread faster then me, because, like, we are reading the same thread???
In post 1218, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol
this is sorta true lol...
but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.
And why you out here lying?
I
convinced
you
that T3 was scummy Day 1 lmao
Spoiler: This post probably won't help the town solve, so if you are not Grandpa you can skip this spoiler :lol:
The only read you posted on T3 before I listed him as scummy:
In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote:Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.
In post 258, T3 wrote:VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.
In post 328, T3 wrote:I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.
??
I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?
Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly.
And look, me again, responding to you trying to convince you that it was scummy - 375 and even a vote from me 383
And AFTER I posted that case / vote
In post 384, GrandpaMo wrote:ok im actually thinking there might be scum between luke and t3
Huhhh. Looks like I convinced you of something here. Like your entire scum read on T3 came from me pointing things out to you.
pls give me credit ;-;
But not really. I don't want credit for your reads. Just realize that we are all reading the same things, and all working together to find the scum team anyways. So it doesn't matter who made any given read first lmao. And not everyone is constantly thinking of where certain things originated. Like here. Where you forgot that I am the one who convinced you that T3 was scum. But it really shouldn't matter imo
In post 1220, Lukewarm wrote:Okay, I think that there is exactly 1 scum between T3 and Johnny.
If I had to choose an elim today, I think I am leaning T3. Mainly because I had a scum read on T3 for most of Day 1 and because of 1134, but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment.
Spoiler:
Also, would feel bad about eliming the replace in so quickly
VOTE: T3
BRUH R U KIDDING ME. pls give me credit ;-;
i literally said this !!!
Give you credit?
Bruh. Your comments had nothing to do with my read? If anything, you said a lot of things that contradict my own position
Spoiler:
In post 1108, GrandpaMo wrote:honestly, hopefully im not wrong again but there is no way this fucking flips town.
I am not this convinced. I actually think T3 is more likely to flip scum, and therefore I think it is more likely that Johnny is Town
In post 1134, T3 wrote:Really not liking the replacement. VOTE: Johnny
If this is town the VFP is scum.
Okay, so I am gonna be busy for a lot of today, but will be back for a closer look this evening. Just doing a quick skim during my break, and this posts stood out to me. Feels like scum trying to link miselims, and honestly not sure how he came to this conclusion. Like VFP is not the loudest pusher on Jonny, and Johnny has been pushing Grandpa over VFP. Over all, confused by this post if coming from town.
Still not sure how I feel about Jonny atm. Will need to give the thread a closer look later, before I can vote.
Yea... I was thinking about if Johnny flips town, then there HAS to be mafia between VFP and T3 and I linked that earlier.
Again, we are approaching this differently. You are starting with Johnny. I am starting with 1134 is super fucking scummy, and so much so that it stood out to me on a brief scan
And like, even if some of our thoughts are aligned, that does not mean I thought them because you happened to get to the thread faster then me, because, like, we are reading the same thread???
i was referring to me bout the scum between t3 and johnny lol.
we aren't approaching this differently.. because u are still willing to vote either or.
sorry im just a LITTLE frustrated...
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:17 pm
by GrandpaMo
In post 1233, GrandpaMo wrote:but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment.
"but to a lesser extent, because a50 is pushing it, and he is my strongest TR at the moment."
In post 1218, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol
this is sorta true lol...
but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.
And why you out here lying?
I
convinced
you
that T3 was scummy Day 1 lmao
Spoiler: This post probably won't help the town solve, so if you are not Grandpa you can skip this spoiler :lol:
The only read you posted on T3 before I listed him as scummy:
In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote:Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.
In post 258, T3 wrote:VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.
In post 328, T3 wrote:I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.
??
I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?
Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly.
And look, me again, responding to you trying to convince you that it was scummy - 375 and even a vote from me 383
And AFTER I posted that case / vote
In post 384, GrandpaMo wrote:ok im actually thinking there might be scum between luke and t3
Huhhh. Looks like I convinced you of something here. Like your entire scum read on T3 came from me pointing things out to you.
pls give me credit ;-;
But not really. I don't want credit for your reads. Just realize that we are all reading the same things, and all working together to find the scum team anyways. So it doesn't matter who made any given read first lmao. And not everyone is constantly thinking of where certain things originated. Like here. Where you forgot that I am the one who convinced you that T3 was scum. But it really shouldn't matter imo
WAIT LMFAO I COMPLETELY FORGOT .
i dont think i used ur thing tho...
i provided my own scumcase however ig i looked at it more of like hey i was the one who wanted t3 out but since u vote drap it doesnt count
In post 1218, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol
this is sorta true lol...
but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.
And why you out here lying?
I
convinced
you
that T3 was scummy Day 1 lmao
Spoiler: This post probably won't help the town solve, so if you are not Grandpa you can skip this spoiler :lol:
The only read you posted on T3 before I listed him as scummy:
In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote:Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.
In post 258, T3 wrote:VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.
In post 328, T3 wrote:I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.
??
I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?
Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly.
And look, me again, responding to you trying to convince you that it was scummy - 375 and even a vote from me 383
And AFTER I posted that case / vote
In post 384, GrandpaMo wrote:ok im actually thinking there might be scum between luke and t3
Huhhh. Looks like I convinced you of something here. Like your entire scum read on T3 came from me pointing things out to you.
pls give me credit ;-;
But not really. I don't want credit for your reads. Just realize that we are all reading the same things, and all working together to find the scum team anyways. So it doesn't matter who made any given read first lmao. And not everyone is constantly thinking of where certain things originated. Like here. Where you forgot that I am the one who convinced you that T3 was scum. But it really shouldn't matter imo
WAIT LMFAO I COMPLETELY FORGOT .
i dont think i used ur thing tho...
i provided my own scumcase however ig i looked at it more of like hey i was the one who wanted t3 out but since u vote drap it doesnt count
yea... when i was reading ur case... i realized that you might have been town hence why i backed off at you and looked at someone other than u . then t3 post stood out in which you made a comment on -- and that's on intuitive thought.
In post 1218, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also T3 has been like scummy limbait in every game ive ever played with him so its not even alignment indicative behavior when it happens lol
this is sorta true lol...
but i scumread them day 1. was the ONLY one who brought a scumcase on them. wanted to vote them EoD day 1. wanted to vote them early day 2 before pine comes in. idk bout others. idk why everyone is giving a50 the credit lol.
And why you out here lying?
I
convinced
you
that T3 was scummy Day 1 lmao
Spoiler: This post probably won't help the town solve, so if you are not Grandpa you can skip this spoiler :lol:
The only read you posted on T3 before I listed him as scummy:
In post 156, GrandpaMo wrote:Okay. So the only real townread I agree with you here is T3.
In post 258, T3 wrote:VOTE: Lukewarm. His tone feels forced , and I'm not liking th defense.
In post 328, T3 wrote:I do think Lukewarm had a good defense I'll have to think on it.
??
I am pretty sure my defense was the same before and after post 258. What changed your mind?
Well from my perspective you had a fair assessment in your quote which in my definition different than defense. I don't know what T3 is talking about here honestly.
And look, me again, responding to you trying to convince you that it was scummy - 375 and even a vote from me 383
And AFTER I posted that case / vote
In post 384, GrandpaMo wrote:ok im actually thinking there might be scum between luke and t3
Huhhh. Looks like I convinced you of something here. Like your entire scum read on T3 came from me pointing things out to you.
pls give me credit ;-;
But not really. I don't want credit for your reads. Just realize that we are all reading the same things, and all working together to find the scum team anyways. So it doesn't matter who made any given read first lmao. And not everyone is constantly thinking of where certain things originated. Like here. Where you forgot that I am the one who convinced you that T3 was scum. But it really shouldn't matter imo
sorry for spam posting
but also yea, you are right-- i think we are all on the same page. well at least me and you.
i just thought Pine was scum gave reasoning >>> A50 comes out and says to pivot to T3 (in which I scumread day 1 and never retracted) >>> We vote T3 >>> Solve's Johnny's allignment imo.
Or we stick to johnny vote >>> T3's allignment gets solved day 3.
In post 293, Dannflor wrote:@ProfDrapion, I just think T3's entrance was genuine emotionally
it's very simple and straightforward but also like the type of slightly scummy posting scum tends to want to avoid
when I look for scum entrances I look for the posters who are trying to make themselves look good
I mean it’s NAI mostly, scum or town can say that.
It’s just that I don’t find it as a good entrance compared to others.
I do have to agree with you that scum may try and go for the LAMIST play.
(As in try and look Townie as much as they can)
like why is drap shading t3 to dann here lol
This could easily be textbook distancing. Just went back over Drap's ISO, and he never shades T3 over ANYTHING except for his very first post (and even in the post you quoted called it NAI )
So I decided to look over every single time ProfessorDrap stated any opinion one way or another on T3
In post 103, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
T3’s entrance wasn’t entirely bad but it was definitely not a great entrance. I’ll probably watch this slot and it’s progression towards Pooky.
Pretty bog standard distancing imo. FoS your partner for something small, that could never result in them getting voted out (like their very first post / RVS vote). Put them in your scum leans, but with other people listed as scummier then them so you can FoS your partner, but push other people.
UNTIL.
I start making a case against T3, and Grandpa believes me, and both of us vote T3. Now what does Professor Drap say? (Grandpa's case/vote was 498)
In post 502, ProfessorDrapion wrote:I’m still thinking T3 is Town but I’m also not entirely confident in that.
Like where did that come from?
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 5:37 pm
by Lukewarm
In summary Pooky, I don't buy that Drap shaded T3 too much for them to be partners
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:01 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ok why does scum t3 shoot dann when dann is TRing him?
1- Low activity fooled him into thinking Dann was a PR?
2- He didn't make the call. The other Scum did?
ok who would be threatened by dan? there isnt a lot in the iso in terms of suspicions
also when does low activity = pr lol
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:15 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
im fine with the t3 elim. he hasnt done anything that would make me think hes like definitely townie. just the game state feels its unlikely to be t3 red here. i might be wrong and im kinda losing care
the game should move foward. the fence sitters need to come make a decision
As for who was threatened.. I have no idea, but it sure didn't have to be that way. If Dann was Babysitter then it's 2 PRs for one shot (as per Bingle's plan). If the kill failed they'd know he was the Alien. Not bad a shot EVEN if they were not threatened by him directly but still thought he might be a PR.
Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 6:20 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
you think t3 thought this was a pr tell and shot the dude tring him?
i mean this is kind of a stretch of imagination for me