hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6

[MalcolmTucker]

VOTE: frog

ok just policy this

OMGUS amogus.

You:
1) scum flailed
2) trolled in a disruptive way
3) made weird votes
4) were opportunistic
5) gave me bad vibes

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

[Frogsterking]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

[MalcolmTucker]

Anyway, to be honest, I kinda lost the drive and willingness for gamesolving in this game. Like a baloon that has been deflating. If this new wagon on me builds up I’ll do a final readslist and then you can eliminate me, because I don’t think I’m going to do well in this particular game.

Or maybe I’m just scum who pretends to be disinterested? Up to you to decide.

Maybe being influenced by players I had TR'd scumreading this slot but I don't like this post at all. It feels sort of self-pitying play-wise in a way that's meant to make you feel bad for suspecting someone who claims they're just not feeling the game as town. It's pretty non-confrontational in a way you can see coming from scum who wants to seem reasonable and cooperative with everyone. Why's Greeting acting as if they're on the verge of elimination at what feels like essentially the start of a wagon here?

[furtiveglance]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

What's IIoA?

[MalcolmTucker]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

I don't think it's passive at all. I'm known for a player who frustratingly and regularly pauses when it comes to reading others at times. I'm still running through the thread since I'd been gone but I'm genuinely intrigued to know what you think - Kitty outlines a pretty blatant, good case on BCG here, so I'm unsure if the kill is a bit obvious coming from scum, because eliminating someone who suspects you/has caught you is something scum are known for sometimes wanting to avoid.

[MalcolmTucker]

Put it this way - I'm not sure you could read back posts from both me and BCG and see us as likely being paired.

[MalcolmTucker]

@Mod :

I unvoted std, and didn't vote for malcolm

I only have 2 townreads right now and that's Frog and cape. Had a townread on fennec/furtive but it's been kinda fading over time. Not a fan of furtive so far.

My only scum read is Malcolm, and std by extension to him. Malcolm is on V/LA so no point in pushing him.

Maria, Pooky and Gamma/NM i will let be for today.

I'm up for a policy execution on BCG and toog. Toog turned his brain off and is just parroting. Hate BCG whole "Higher than thou" and "can't touch me" attitude following Gamma ban. His exe would bring the game some peace.

Titus, Greeting, Enchant, Kitty and Marci are null. I admit i haven't been paying much attention to Kitty and Greeting.
The priority right now should be me getting a read on Greeting, but the chance of me getting a townread strong enough that i refuse to vote is slim at best.
If i noticed anything scummy at a glance they wouldn't be null right now.

This feels really weak and scummy, almost blatantly so to a degree that's comical. One scumread on someone who was inactive, up for policy eliminations for pretty flimsy reasons in Toog's case especially and not much content in general despite being a lengthy post.

[Frogsterking]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

What's IIoA?

Information instead of analysis. MT doesn't say anything about what he thinks the night kill actually reflects, he just points out that it's a factor and leaves it hanging as some kind of implied counterpoint against Kitty's case being "spot on."

Pedit

I don't like him going after Charloux here either.

VOTE: Malcolm

I want Big Chungus dead D3 especially if this flips scum.

[furtiveglance]

@Mod :

I unvoted std, and didn't vote for malcolm

I only have 2 townreads right now and that's Frog and cape. Had a townread on fennec/furtive but it's been kinda fading over time. Not a fan of furtive so far.

My only scum read is Malcolm, and std by extension to him. Malcolm is on V/LA so no point in pushing him.

Maria, Pooky and Gamma/NM i will let be for today.

I'm up for a policy execution on BCG and toog. Toog turned his brain off and is just parroting. Hate BCG whole "Higher than thou" and "can't touch me" attitude following Gamma ban. His exe would bring the game some peace.

Titus, Greeting, Enchant, Kitty and Marci are null. I admit i haven't been paying much attention to Kitty and Greeting.
The priority right now should be me getting a read on Greeting, but the chance of me getting a townread strong enough that i refuse to vote is slim at best.
If i noticed anything scummy at a glance they wouldn't be null right now.

This feels really weak and scummy, almost blatantly so to a degree that's comical. One scumread on someone who was inactive, up for policy eliminations for pretty flimsy reasons in Toog's case especially and not much content in general despite being a lengthy post.

'Someone who was inactive'

Does it affect your read here that you were that player? I think it might...

[MalcolmTucker]

Oh ProfessorDrapion is back in the bunny alt trying to vote me out for his third game, third account in a row.

Oh ProfessorDrapion is back in the bunny alt trying to vote me out for his third game, third account in a row.

It's funny you chose Bugs Bunny for this account Drap because I feel like I'M Bugs Bunny and you're that dude who bumbles around trying to catch the wabbit.

Drap has not been successful in any of his attempts to vote me out, FYI, though he did succeed each time in making the game way more difficult and complicated to win.

I see that shut you up now that everyone knows who you are. Good.

Oh ProfessorDrapion is back in the bunny alt trying to vote me out for his third game, third account in a row.

If I go to read professordrapion's games and see that they are nothing like me, I dearly hope that people finally start seeing you are full of shit and make sure you die here.

I see that shut you up now that everyone knows who you are. Good.

this is a forum game, not a chat game.

Lmao, sorry guys but alt drama is so funny.

[Frogsterking]

Put it this way - I'm not sure you could read back posts from both me and BCG and see us as likely being paired.

Because?

[MalcolmTucker]

@Mod :

I unvoted std, and didn't vote for malcolm

I only have 2 townreads right now and that's Frog and cape. Had a townread on fennec/furtive but it's been kinda fading over time. Not a fan of furtive so far.

My only scum read is Malcolm, and std by extension to him. Malcolm is on V/LA so no point in pushing him.

Maria, Pooky and Gamma/NM i will let be for today.

I'm up for a policy execution on BCG and toog. Toog turned his brain off and is just parroting. Hate BCG whole "Higher than thou" and "can't touch me" attitude following Gamma ban. His exe would bring the game some peace.

Titus, Greeting, Enchant, Kitty and Marci are null. I admit i haven't been paying much attention to Kitty and Greeting.
The priority right now should be me getting a read on Greeting, but the chance of me getting a townread strong enough that i refuse to vote is slim at best.
If i noticed anything scummy at a glance they wouldn't be null right now.

This feels really weak and scummy, almost blatantly so to a degree that's comical. One scumread on someone who was inactive, up for policy eliminations for pretty flimsy reasons in Toog's case especially and not much content in general despite being a lengthy post.

'Someone who was inactive'

Does it affect your read here that you were that player? I think it might...

No actually, Charloux's read on me isn't what I find to be the problem, you scumread you but I reckon you're probably town so far, what is odd is that Charloux literally only has a scumread on someone not around to refute it. This in itself could be construed as tunnelled town but I don't like the self-consciousness which comes after the read - it's like they're aware of how scummy it is and have to find a justification for having no other reads.

[MalcolmTucker]

Put it this way - I'm not sure you could read back posts from both me and BCG and see us as likely being paired.

Because?

I'd say I've pretty consistently suspected the slot so far in a way that makes us unlikely to be paired. My contention - that BCG may have been unlikely to kill Kitty as scum because Kitty's scumcase was good - isn't one that uncommonly comes up in mafia. It's reasonable to revise your thoughts and views on players when new info comes to light.

I'm still catching up but it feels like things have gotten overly personal between you guys and I'm unsure if that's influencing your read here to the degree where anyone backing away/not fully convinced on BCG who isn't obvious town to you is then being read as scum.

[furtiveglance]

I feel like this from Kitty is spot on regarding BCG but then gives us the classic scenario of "would BCG be so obvious as to eliminate Kitty here?" It's giving me pause on the slot at least.

Don't like this. IIoA in passive defense of BGC.

What's IIoA?

Information instead of analysis. MT doesn't say anything about what he thinks the night kill actually reflects, he just points out that it's a factor and leaves it hanging as some kind of implied counterpoint against Kitty's case being "spot on."

Pedit

I don't like him going after Charloux here either.

VOTE: Malcolm

I want Big Chungus dead D3 especially if this flips scum.

My gut reaction is also a bad one to these posts of Malcolm. 'We obviously aren't paired' makes me think 'we distanced really well' and I thought Malcolm was scum yesterday as well. However my other scumread was wrong. I may be in over my head here. Sometimes it's good to let the game play out a bit and the scummers will kind of sink to the bottom.

Anyway, I'll join you for now because I gotta be right on something

VOTE: MalcolmTucker

[MalcolmTucker]

@Mod :

I unvoted std, and didn't vote for malcolm

I only have 2 townreads right now and that's Frog and cape. Had a townread on fennec/furtive but it's been kinda fading over time. Not a fan of furtive so far.

My only scum read is Malcolm, and std by extension to him. Malcolm is on V/LA so no point in pushing him.

Maria, Pooky and Gamma/NM i will let be for today.

I'm up for a policy execution on BCG and toog. Toog turned his brain off and is just parroting. Hate BCG whole "Higher than thou" and "can't touch me" attitude following Gamma ban. His exe would bring the game some peace.

Titus, Greeting, Enchant, Kitty and Marci are null. I admit i haven't been paying much attention to Kitty and Greeting.
The priority right now should be me getting a read on Greeting, but the chance of me getting a townread strong enough that i refuse to vote is slim at best.
If i noticed anything scummy at a glance they wouldn't be null right now.

This feels really weak and scummy, almost blatantly so to a degree that's comical. One scumread on someone who was inactive, up for policy eliminations for pretty flimsy reasons in Toog's case especially and not much content in general despite being a lengthy post.

'Someone who was inactive'

Does it affect your read here that you were that player? I think it might...

No actually, Charloux's read on me isn't what I find to be the problem, you scumread you but I reckon you're probably town so far, what is odd is that Charloux literally only has a scumread on someone not around to refute it. This in itself could be construed as tunnelled town but I don't like the self-consciousness which comes after the read - it's like they're aware of how scummy it is and have to find a justification for having no other reads.

You scumread me, sorry.

[Frogsterking]

I'd say I've pretty consistently suspected the slot so far in a way that makes us unlikely to be paired

You were 100% useless in assisting with running it up yesterday.

[furtiveglance]

I feel like Fennec was power towning quite well and I came in and ruined it haha. Oh well.

[Frogsterking]

I'm still catching up but it feels like things have gotten overly personal between you guys and I'm unsure if that's influencing your read here to the degree where anyone backing away/not fully convinced on BCG who isn't obvious town to you is then being read as scum.

Bullshit.

[MalcolmTucker]

Oh, Big Chungus is DKKoba

Lmao, every second alt on this site is Koba, in the rules.

[MalcolmTucker]

I'm still catching up but it feels like things have gotten overly personal between you guys and I'm unsure if that's influencing your read here to the degree where anyone backing away/not fully convinced on BCG who isn't obvious town to you is then being read as scum.

Bullshit.

Why has your read on me done a sudden 180 on the basis of the fact that I have ever so slightly revised my read on a player based on new info coming to light?

I don't think BCG is out of the woods and would still happily consider them for elimination. I am, nevertheless, concerned they could be town because eliminating Kitty feels like a perfectly convenient way for mafia to try and stitch BCG up for this next elimination.

Answer me this - do you think BCG would have been likely to eliminate a player who had what looked like a really strong read on them? And if so, why do you think they took this approach?

[furtiveglance]

I nearly just saw into an alternate reality where Charloux was scum but I think I've dismissed it now. But it felt real. But actually I don't think it is.

[MalcolmTucker]

I nearly just saw into an alternate reality where Charloux was scum but I think I've dismissed it now. But it felt real. But actually I don't think it is.

What do you mean by this?

[furtiveglance]

I nearly just saw into an alternate reality where Charloux was scum but I think I've dismissed it now. But it felt real. But actually I don't think it is.

What do you mean by this?

I've described it in a slightly metaphorical way. But I was looking through the ISO and saw some sus posts. But then I saw some unsus posts. And now I'm settled

[MalcolmTucker]

I'd say I've pretty consistently suspected the slot so far in a way that makes us unlikely to be paired

You were 100% useless in assisting with running it up yesterday.

Yes because I'm a light voter most of the time and I was absent both in the immediate aftermath of the outage and over the weekend. And have I ever been a particularly forceful town-leader?

[furtiveglance]

I'm still catching up but it feels like things have gotten overly personal between you guys and I'm unsure if that's influencing your read here to the degree where anyone backing away/not fully convinced on BCG who isn't obvious town to you is then being read as scum.

Bullshit.

Answer me this - do you think BCG would have been likely to eliminate a player who had what looked like a really strong read on them? And if so, why do you think they took this approach?

This doesn't really help you either way