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So far you have one correct read, congrats I guess?

Your meta read on me - garbage
Meta read on Bella - garbage
Your 'Math is 80% town' - garbage.

aight I'm 13 pages behind, manic and caffinated. Lets see what magic I can make happen.

-Butterflea

In post 12375, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:So far you have one correct read, congrats I guess?

Your meta read on me - garbage
Meta read on Bella - garbage
Your 'Math is 80% town' - garbage.

The last one was I believe from Titus but could be wrong about that.

I never hard vetoed either Bella or Math but I did Bell, Dunn, Dwlee, Taly and OtH.

I caught scum!Dwlee and duckling in Pokemon based off of partially meta. so yoi can stopit with the insults.

Insults? Just facts, your reads have been garbage and you base them largely on meta. Your slot was hard TR Bella, don't try and pretend otherwise.

I don't particularly care about your reads from other games either.

Is it typical for you always to be confrontational and unpleasant? Because it’s hella annoying frankly, whatever you are in this game.

In post 12378, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Insults? Just facts, your reads have been garbage and you base them largely on meta. Your slot was hard TR Bella, don't try and pretend otherwise.

I don't particularly care about your reads from other games either.

'ey up.

Whats the beef and whats your actual thoughts on this slot? You're a spicy bean and I got energy to spare.

-Butterflea

In post 12379, butterflies wrote:Is it typical for you always to be confrontational and unpleasant? Because it’s hella annoying frankly, whatever you are in this game.

I don't know, I guess you could do a survey or something with people I have played with?

I'm sorry if facts upset you or make me unpleasant. That's just the way it is unfortunately.

In post 12380, butterflies wrote: Whats the beef and whats your actual thoughts on this slot? You're a spicy bean and I got energy to spare.

-Butterflea

The beef is your slot has been scum reading me for a long time and usually based on very bad reasoning and as such my OMGUS has kicked in and it leads me to believe there is no way that town can have so many bad takes, you know?

Plus, your slot hard town read both flipped scum and that's kind of yikes. You get me?

This is probably all TvT.

In post 12381, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 12379, butterflies wrote:Is it typical for you always to be confrontational and unpleasant? Because it’s hella annoying frankly, whatever you are in this game.

I don't know, I guess you could do a survey or something with people I have played with?

I'm sorry if facts upset you or make me unpleasant. That's just the way it is unfortunately.

The way you present them and are trying to talk down at my lovely hydra partner is likely playing a big part in this. Maybe work on how you talk to people because frankly its crap when people talk at you like you're irrelevant and a waste of space, you get me?

In post 12381, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 12380, butterflies wrote: Whats the beef and whats your actual thoughts on this slot? You're a spicy bean and I got energy to spare.

-Butterflea

The beef is your slot has been scum reading me for a long time and usually based on very bad reasoning and as such my OMGUS has kicked in and it leads me to believe there is no way that town can have so many bad takes, you know?

Plus, your slot hard town read both flipped scum and that's kind of yikes. You get me?

So funny thing is, you're not mentioned at all in Nancys catchups to me and updates as I'm dealing with my irl crap. Now you are free to interpret that information as you want, but, you're admitting to OMGUS which is an attempt to discredit our position by literally saying "lol u suck" and you're hammering home this point as much as you possibly can. So you're trying to use a discredit tactic legitimately by calling it out yourself on D5.

Town absolutely can have so many bad takes and often the people with the worst takes in the game flip green or jester. The people to watch for are those people who are trying to maintain a number between good and bad.

So tell me again, whats your actual beef with our slot?

-Float like a Butterflea sting like a flea bite.

I feel like the two of you (well, three technically I guess) just read the games in very different ways from each other and it's got you at loggerheads. But I don't feel like either approach is coming from scum.

If BBT is scum it makes sense to focus on one of the slots likely to be eliminated and either solely push there or intensely focus there. I don't think this Butterflies push is improving their standing with town as such and it's clearly not going anywhere in terms of garnering an actual elimination. If BBT is scum they're taking a bit of a risk in terms of attracting some suspicion and a vote from Butterflies who is strongly TR'd.

In post 12384, MalcolmTucker wrote:If BBT is scum it makes sense to focus on one of the slots likely to be eliminated and either solely push there or intensely focus there.

I'm not exactly beating the bbt scum drum here but this isn't how I see bbt scum behaving. They don't strike me as someone who plays it safe

In post 12381, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:

In post 12379, butterflies wrote:Is it typical for you always to be confrontational and unpleasant? Because it’s hella annoying frankly, whatever you are in this game.

I don't know, I guess you could do a survey or something with people I have played with?

I'm sorry if facts upset you or make me unpleasant. That's just the way it is unfortunately.

In post 12380, butterflies wrote: Whats the beef and whats your actual thoughts on this slot? You're a spicy bean and I got energy to spare.

-Butterflea

The beef is your slot has been scum reading me for a long time and usually based on very bad reasoning and as such my OMGUS has kicked in and it leads me to believe there is no way that town can have so many bad takes, you know?

Plus, your slot hard town read both flipped scum and that's kind of yikes. You get me?

My hard trs were Bell. Dunn, Dwlee, Taly, OtH, Drap but feel free to continue with this misrep.

Butterflea is the absolute best! <3

I don't think I was talking down at all, Nancy asked where her meta reads were garbage and I showed her and she didn't like it.

Also, saying you were right about town is like 'so what?' Scum know who town are and can easily produce reasoning for someone to be town when they know that that person is town. Scum reads are much more interesting and so far you've town read both scum and are scum reading me. So, it doesn't look good, you know?

I admitted to OMGUS at the start of D2, the second DP started their BS push on me which was absurd. As soon as I feel like I'm being pushed in bad faith, I'm going to focus in on that player.

Again, my beef with your slot is; a) bad reads and b) a bad push on me.

Johnny just soul read me. God damn.

True, there will never come a day when I will ever enjoy beinf misrepped.

In post 12385, JohnnyFarrar wrote:

In post 12384, MalcolmTucker wrote:If BBT is scum it makes sense to focus on one of the slots likely to be eliminated and either solely push there or intensely focus there.

I'm not exactly beating the bbt scum drum here but this isn't how I see bbt scum behaving. They don't strike me as someone who plays it safe

Maybe not, that's a valid possibility. I guess if they're scum this is a good way for them to show they at least have strong reads and don't want to just follow the crowd. I'm just not really seeing it from these particular exchanges at the moment. What's scum BBT's motive pursuing Butterflies with what I think is a relatively weak case on them? Why not focus elsewhere on a slot that's actually likely to be eliminated? Unless nobody up for elimination is scum I guess, and BBT could then focus on a slot they know won't go out because they look better for it. But I feel like these scenarios involved a lot of hypotheticals unlikely to be true.

In post 12388, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't think I was talking down at all, Nancy asked where her meta reads were garbage and I showed her and she didn't like it.

Also, saying you were right about town is like 'so what?' Scum know who town are and can easily produce reasoning for someone to be town when they know that that person is town. Scum reads are much more interesting and so far you've town read both scum and are scum reading me. So, it doesn't look good, you know?

I admitted to OMGUS at the start of D2, the second DP started their BS push on me which was absurd. As soon as I feel like I'm being pushed in bad faith, I'm going to focus in on that player.

Again, my beef with your slot is; a) bad reads and b) a bad push on me.

Johnny just soul read me. God damn.

Saying you're right about town is one thing.
Saying it and having evidence is another.
But you're right scum reads are much more interesting.

See I'm entirely neutral on you and I'm hoping to come out of this with a read.
Have you taken a similar approach with anyone else this game who has had the unfortunate misfortune of townreading scum?

I think our(nancys) stance on you currently has a little more ground as you've just said this is an OMGUS from D2 and we're 5 or 6 phases later in a large game.

Scum reads are definitely more interesting to look at, especially when they come with some meat.

Now you hate meta, I hate people calling "Bad faith!" because it's such an awful "I don't like this person, I REFUSE THEM!!" escape - and its often used to escape my clutches. But then you lock onto that player? For a day maybe, for 3 days and counting? nah.

So your beef is actually just bone.

My read on you? I'm happy with our vote being on you for now.

-Butterflea

I haven't been just pushing your slot for 3 days, but sure?

The reasons that were valid on D2 are still valid now but with some additions.

In post 12371, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You can hard disagree all you like. Your meta reads this game have been garbage and you tried to use meta to read me and it was equally as bad.

Just because we thought the same thing it doesn't make us the same alignment. Especially when me thinking was way out there simply based on the fact I wanted Bella to be town more than anything actually content based.

I've scum read your slot for the majority of the game.

These points don't line up. In the first part, you're talking as if they're town who is playing badly (their reads so far this game are bad, therefore their read on you is equally bad). But in the second part, you are saying that you read them as scum. The almost condescending tone you're using here doesn't make sense if you're talking to someone that you actually scumread, unless you were talking about how they were playing badly . Nowhere in this conversation does it actually feel like you think you are talking to scum or that you want them to be eliminated.

Keep reading my good friend.

In post 12393, butterchurn wrote:

In post 12371, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You can hard disagree all you like. Your meta reads this game have been garbage and you tried to use meta to read me and it was equally as bad.

Just because we thought the same thing it doesn't make us the same alignment. Especially when me thinking was way out there simply based on the fact I wanted Bella to be town more than anything actually content based.

I've scum read your slot for the majority of the game.

These points don't line up. In the first part, you're talking as if they're town who is playing badly (their reads so far this game are bad, therefore their read on you is equally bad). But in the second part, you are saying that you read them as scum. The almost condescending tone you're using here doesn't make sense if you're talking to someone that you actually scumread, unless you were talking about how they were playing badly

as scum

. Nowhere in this conversation does it actually feel like you think you are talking to scum or that you want them to be eliminated.

This is compelling

In post 12392, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I haven't been just pushing your slot for 3 days, but sure?

The reasons that were valid on D2 are still valid now but with some additions.

You can tunnel without a push.
I'm failing to see any mention of additions.

I've asked you what your issue with our slot is.
Everytime you come back with nothing workable. You've said OMGUS and you've mentioned bad faith.

This is nothing but bone. There is no meat here, there's nothing of any substance.

I can see why Nancy and Titus have SRd you. You talk big, you talk down, you're all mouth and no trousers.

-Butterflea.

In post 12211, JohnnyFarrar wrote:So is there a deadline soon? I feel like today is stalling a bit. Questions at the top of my mind:

1. Are we leasing Hook and Mala to someone for role confirmation?

2. Furthermore, how long do we continue refusing to vote those who have claimed a role?

3. How is flea doing?

Flea is crawling back from a severe pain flare, and IBS flare, LARPing and being low manic, Thanks for asking. Hows you?

In post 12384, MalcolmTucker wrote:it's got you at loggerheads

In post 12396, butterflies wrote:you're all mouth and no trousers.

This game cool as hell

Johnny my man!!
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