Benmage wrote:I also read MGS (prior to replacing in) And feel free to both PM Faraday. But I had pegged Fate as scum in MGS. His play is different here. I read him as much more genuinely town. So I have him as town. He can buddy up to me all he wants. I'm not going to disregard him completely. But I've been really good at reading him of late. And he's bleeding town.
Oh you’ve gotten good at reading Fate? I’d like to see the links to all the completed games where Town-Benmage has read Town-Fate correctly. They should all post-date Stars Aligned 3 obviously since you clearly couldn’t read him there.
If your answer is “Well it never has actually occurred in a game” then this I’ll chock up to posturing that may stem from you being partners.
Benmage wrote:Really, because I remember you using my calling of you out for undermining as an example to call out other scum when you were town. Wasn't the game Supernatural Mafia?
More MoI fallacies.
Please support said rememberance with a link. You ‘remembering’ but not being able to back it up with support does not support your ‘MoI using fallacies’ argument.
Benmage wrote:Wait... are you saying your vote on Vijay for confirming late, had ZERO substance to it, and was equivalent to the sky is blue vote xxx.... Because late confirmation is an old scumtell.
Why do you insist on asking questions to which the answer is obvious? Of course it is an RVS chuckle vote. What moron uses a confirmination period of 24 hours as ‘evidence’ of scum behavior?
Benmage wrote:1. Deflection check.
2. AtE check.
3. Zang tell again. That was used in AFFC too by you as scum. Tsk tsk MoI you've been better...uhh...CHECK.
1. Pointing out scummy behavior isn’t deflection. It’s scum-hunting. Why are you so invested in buzzword bingo Benmage?
2. AtE? Do you know what AtE is? It’s calling yourself Town with no reason why. Much like you do in your ‘I’m being Undermined’ arguments. Calling out a scum-motivated play is not AtE. More buzzword bingo and not even used correctly to boot. Terrible argument Benmage.
3. And I can show you tons of games where I use it as Town. Jason’s Dr. Who Mini Theme was one in fact. So here you are trying to ascribe as a scum-tell something I do as both Town and Scum. Again, terrible Ben.
Benmage wrote:Fluff
Oh so fluff is a scum-tell? Can you link me to any games where Town Benmage has used this tell before? If it is common it shouldn’t be a problem.
Benmage wrote:3. He refuses to claim when at L-1. I've seen this a bagillion times by scum. Both refusing and stalling.
And here is where you took it one step too far and made your alignment known. Bad move Ben.
Benmage is here trying to assert that it is a ‘common’ scum move to not claim at L-1. Yet he doesn’t provide any links? Why no links Ben?
And furthermore he knows for me it is NOT a scum-tell. There are only two games I’ve EVER refused to claim at L-1.
Ooba’s ASoFAI Large Theme Mafia
Seinfeld Mafia
Both of which I was Town in. And in fact Benmage directly saw that in ooba’s game.
You blew it Ben. You didn’t remember the facts that should have been much more top of mind than Supernatural Mafia. Ooba’s game happened far more recently. Yet you are cherry-picking your ‘recollections’ as opposed to honestly scum-hunting.
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Vijay wrote: @MoI: regarding that post where you said I was posting as if you were town, you deliberately misinterpretted it. I posted that with the mindset of you being a better player, thus causing the mistakes you made to be deliberate and scummy instead of just newbie-ness.
No, I interpreted it in the only logical manner. Because your assertion that someone as a better player would make that ‘slip’ but a newb would not doesn’t make any sense.
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Pappums wrote:I think you should go ahead and claim considering V2V has expressed intent to hammer.
Nope. But who are my partners? I’d like your thoughts since you are avoiding commenting on anyone else. Why is that?
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knox wrote:Seriously? Just because that’s not how you play the game doesn’t mean that it’s wrong. How is ending the day on page 3 helpful to the town? Some of the best scum slips/finds can be found in the first day at later stages of the game, the more content the better.
Oh, so you are suggesting the outcome of the day would be bad if you hammered ‘scum’ on page 3? Either you are Town who is too timid with no actual drive of your own or you are scum mining for ‘Town cred’. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you aren't playing poorly in calling you possible scum.
knox wrote:I also noticed that the town lost in Buffy the Vampire Slayer after two quick lynches. YOU might have had a good read on the game but kept them to yourself and as strong/loud players often do you were NK. Leaving the rest of the town in a weak position, especially the replacements. I think this is a very poor point for your argument.
The Town did not lose because they quicklynched scum on Day 1 and Day 2. It’s rather preposterous to even suggest. Scum Camn was also obv at the end of Day 2. Town lost because three of its players were VIs and scum were not. One of whom hammered obv-Town in LYLO because he was ‘annoying’. So your point here is terrible.
knox wrote:It was considered a tell when I used to play mafia, people would often say the last person to confirm was scummy for the reasons you stated. That fact that you went out of your way to check player activity and that you pushed this information like a real vote. It didn’t read as a lulz giggles vote.
Well you probably need to upgrade your reading skills then. As to where you played before? You aren’t there now. This is MS not random.site.org.
knox wrote:Or he could have left it hanging to test your reaction? Is it your line of thinking or the highway?
What reaction test would it be? Reacting to see if someone was stupid enough to buy it? I’d love to see your reasoning as to what possible reactions that would help in scum-hunting it would bring.
knox wrote:You know who likes calling themselves town? Scum.
Oh really? I’d love to see links supporting your position that scum call themselves Town more than Town does. Support your premise!
knox wrote:You expect other players to claim at L-1, why won’t you? And before you jump down my throat as to why I’m not voting you, I want to hear your claim. Preferably soon.
Show your work – please link to where I have asked anyone this game to claim? You keep making statements that you can’t support and it only is strengthening my read that you are scum with Ben / Fate.
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iStark wrote:@MoI, I'm stating intent to hammer.
Good for you? I'm clearly not a Bomb since that is a scum role so who hammers isn't relevant.
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