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↑ Jane Austen wrote:for Seuss has had no less time to talk than myself;

Doctor Seuss can be ill. He can be curt. He can be of the quiet folk.

Not giving a man a chance to speak so early is a sign of a criminal. What is more so, however, it saying such a thing as "I know beforehand that what the doctor will post will be scummy".

↑ Jane Austen wrote:in context I merely claimed that he is not innocent just because he only has one post that shows his character

I fear you are forgetting why thou hath voted Seuss in the first place? I pray thou do not attempt to muddle this talk with "my memory is dim". Thou surely black-marked the good doctor for "thinking" he is a criminal. Now, thou art simply stating that he cannot be proven of innocence because of that one post.

I fear that the court these days are very clear about their rules. "A man is innocent until proven guilty." It appears thou art attempting to convey the opposite.

↑ Jane Austen wrote:It is a response to your nonsense of an implication that a man with one post must be innocent; you mustn't ignore context.

I beg thy pardon? Attempting to edit my work will not pass by my notice so swiftly. My read on Seuss was a conditional on being a criminal. If thou art truly a murderer, then pushing on an innocent man, while also seemingly presenting a "well-spoken" argument, will not yield much backfire to thee. I, however, at a later point, resigned that logic, and decided there is still a chance that thou art attempting to gain early innocence-credit by pushing on a partner in crime. Alas, thou, the reason is not as important. My main concern at this hour is thou art scum, and need swift sentence to the gallows.

I

I...

I am quite taken aback by the unmasked wickedness of your post; I expected to mock your post as one born from selfishness, ego and sexism, but I am afraid I cannot no longer give you that benefit of the doubt.



I ask any player to look at Poe's second quote and then look at in context; you shall see surely that he has quite reversed the meaning. His first paraphrasing is quite the same, surely if I was a horse meat distributor I would hope that you were an eldest son in line for a baronet for, in that case, upon someone remarking that it was "raining cats and dogs" I would be sure to make a great windfall. I do not consider you sincere.

She came along the alley and up the back steps the way she always used to. Jane always in sandals, bottom half of a flower-print bikini, faded Mr. Darcy t-shirt.
"There's this guy;"
There always is.
"Poe." She finished. She told her story - easy business.
"Yeah, sounds like dust up over language. Standard stuff. Not terrible, but too square."
EE on the other hand. He's someone I wanna keep an eye on.

Somethin' else. Wallace, why's it that you think that flatlander Bradley's town?

has Reinventness which is Untruthness



has Awareness which is Scaredness





austen

-- Helen Keller


Even at my age, I still learn new things. I am trying to discern the meaning behind some of the authors and their words. Even someone with the Ridenow Gift of Empathy, would have some difficulties with the manner of speech some of you portray.

This makes the job of finding those in league with the Terrans and the Alderans much trickier.

@ Thomas what do you mean by flatlander? I was raised in the mountains.

@ Charlie, being naked is not a crime especially in the Towers where you are so close to the other Leroni that it is like living with your skin off.


Now that Mr Cummings is actually starting to participate, and I am seeing more from Thomas as well as Ms Stein, I am getting a better handle on them. I will also take a solid look at the words in isolation of the esteemed Ms Austen who seems to have so suddenly come under scrutiny. However for now, I will put my vote on my number 1 suspect of this villainy that has been plaguing us.

VOTE: Gertrude Stein

↑ Marion Zimmer Bradley wrote:

Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood.

-- Helen Keller


Even at my age, I still learn new things. I am trying to discern the meaning behind some of the authors and their words. Even someone with the Ridenow Gift of Empathy, would have some difficulties with the manner of speech some of you portray.

This makes the job of finding those in league with the Terrans and the Alderans much trickier.

@ Thomas what do you mean by flatlander? I was raised in the mountains.

@ Charlie, being naked is not a crime especially in the Towers where you are so close to the other Leroni that it is like living with your skin off.


Now that Mr Cummings is actually starting to participate, and I am seeing more from Thomas as well as Ms Stein, I am getting a better handle on them. I will also take a solid look at the words in isolation of the esteemed Ms Austen who seems to have so suddenly come under scrutiny. However for now, I will put my vote on my number 1 suspect of this villainy that has been plaguing us.

VOTE: Gertrude Stein

1 Look not to repeat thyself, for in all things, things you say sound the same, e'en though the words are not.

2 No, alas, they are the same too.

3 When you speak, I look for the goodness that is within your heart, for I know it can BE there, for the Lord THY God has given thy goodness.

4 But, some have turned away from their LORD, and turned to evil. And they shall also speak evil, and will not be reconciled except unto death.

5 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance.

↑ Dr Seuss wrote:I bid each and every one of you good day. Mrs. Lovegood has decreed it is time to play. I wish you all the best of luck, but while this is all in good fun, it is also a game -- a game which is meant to be won. So seek out the scums wherever they may be, but if you're having trouble, you could always sheep me!

Vote: Gregory Williamsen

↑ Dr Seuss wrote:Why would you harp on cotributions deemed frugal,
Barely one page into the game, Daily Bugle?
It seems as though you might be a shtoogle--
An anti-frugal shtoogle, Bugle!

↑ Jane Austen wrote:If not for the scummy nature of Mr. Mamet, I would find myself voting Dr. Seuss; sadly I have only one vote and it is promised to another. With Dr Seuss, I am afraid we have a scum hiding waiting for an opportunity; where he will rush up only to hide again, and wait for the next opportunity. I know this this, yet I am made unhappy, and I have good reason to be: I can not exercise my suspicion of Seuss without leaving Mamet with just the tendrils of suspicion, and none of my fellows are willing to make the first leap onto Seuss; though that would be the gallant thing to do.

The alacrity in which that paragraph had been been written lead to the missing of two major reasons to calm my soul; the two great heroes who have voted Seuss. While others focus on distractions that shall lead to nothing; that

can't

lead to anything. Although I still

FOS: Mamet

I can with comfort

Vote: Seuss

11 Judgement of your fellow man should be made in caution, for no one KNOWS the heart of MAN, save the Lord thy GOD.

12 Suess said naught with FORESIGHT, and called out the shtoogle that is THE BUGLE.

13 And you have said, falsely, that Suess was UNFAITHFUL to the tenets of the Lord.

14 Sayeth Austen "With Dr Seuss, I am afraid we have a scum hiding waiting for an opportunity; where he will rush up only to hide again, and wait for the next opportunity."

15 Some extrapolations are BEYOND the realm of GOODNESS; those that are false should NOT be, and should be exiled from the LAND of My people and thy thoughts.

A LETTER OF RESPONSE TO ONE THOMAS PYNCHON FROM THE AUTHOR DAVID FOSTER WALLACE POSTMARKED 5 OCTOBER YEAR OF THE DEPEND ADULT UNDERGARMENT, MAILED FROM THE ENNET HOUSE DRUG AND ALCOHOL RECOVERY HOUSE¹²

Re:

↑ Thomas Pynchon wrote:Somethin' else. Wallace, why's it that you think that flatlander Bradley's town?

Mr. Pynchon,
Through no direct action on her part. I put more stock in my reaction to the wagon on her. Several of the bandwagoners turned my stomach¹³, with reasons for voting either vacuous or nonexistent. M.Z.B.'s own posts have been obtuse¹⁴ to the point that I don't find picking them apart to be as diagnostic as gauging the reactions others have to her.
Yours Sincerely
David

P.S. I plead again for you to move back to the E.A.P. wagon. Flashwagons rise and fall around it¹⁵, but the slow build and reluctance of most anyone else to say a damn word about it lends credence to my theory that it is in fact on scum. Poe himself blithely ignored me completely.

Mind unchanged
On worthy lynch
More votes
Are needed. In this

Hour, need authors'
Mind on change -
More votes!
Oh, worthy lynch!

A prod thou hast recieved awhile ago
While glancing over page after pages
I see some votes on dear Austen. For what
has she hath done to eat the dirty rope?

Wilde raised himself from his chair and paced while thinking aloud.

"Seuss has still not offered much for us to work with, but Miss Austen assumes overmuch of his silence. The paper has not come in quite some time, which does bother me. I do not dislike the paper, but I might cancel my subscription as a matter of policy if it does not arrive soon."

He paused, both in speech and step. Without movement, his speech resumed, "To speak in favor of Miss Bradley, I have found that few villains will stand in criticism of the unaccused, as she has just done. I cannot say that I am in agreement that Stein is the greatest threat to us, but Bradley is demonstrating a certain recklessness that seems more common to the innocent than the guilty. This could be attributed to desperation, but it seems unlikely with the increased interest in Miss Austen. However, I am disinclined to join that crowd."

"In fact," Wilde continued, "I have noticed a very similar tone from ee cummings as I did when the Bradley lynch was the topic of discussion. It seems opportunistic."

VOTE: ee cummings

↑ OscarWilde wrote:Seuss has still not offered much for us to work with, but Miss Austen assumes overmuch of his silence.

I assume nothing of his silence, and I am disappointed; for I had assumed someone who speaks such a lot of sense, as you have just did with regards to Miss Bradley would speak sense on all matters, and vote Poe; I suppose all men have their weaknesses, the most universal one being an inability to see them. What do you think of Poe?

↑ Jane Austen wrote:

↑ OscarWilde wrote:Seuss has still not offered much for us to work with, but Miss Austen assumes overmuch of his silence.

I assume nothing of his silence, and I am disappointed; for I had assumed someone who speaks such a lot of sense, as you have just did with regards to Miss Bradley would speak sense on all matters, and vote Poe; I suppose all men have their weaknesses, the most universal one being an inability to see them. What do you think of Poe?

This truly makes me laugh madame. You're suspecting me because I suspect thee, nay?

For the sake of the angels above, do not try to beguile more or another that thou have truly sensed me of being a criminal for attacking thee in an outlandish manner.

For I'll tell you what I tell all:

Take a hypothetical situation in which thou art any person not involved in the conversation with me. And let us pretend that I am having this conversation with another such person much like thyself.

Would thou, truly and honestly, have suspected me of doing what thou art accusing me now to some other? Or is it because I am accusing that thou feel obliged to attack me in turn?

It is truly the latter, nay? It's simple. Criminals feel obliged to defend themselves by attacking their accuser.

For the sake of getting an answer out of thee, which would it be, madame?

I Eye Will Not Nut Sleigh Slay Jane Austen Fore For Four She Seems Nurmel Normal By All Appearances.

↑ Edgar Allan Poe wrote:Would thou, truly and honestly, have suspected me of doing what thou art accusing me now to some other?

If someone was going out of their way to paint an untrue picture of events, and there was no way to justify it, and I spotted it then yes I would vote them - at least I would hope so. You take scissors and glue in order to turn one thing into another; that is not the action of town regardless to whom it is done to.

↑ Rucks wrote:Austen, the Kid had talked about already. Sure is strange in a room full've quiet people, you can pick one and say that if they post more you'll find more than one post of their scummy.

Do not be so disingenuous; you know as well as I that didn't pick one player - Poe picked one player to pardon based on his inactivity, and I disagreed with his view. Your view would seem to damn an old man who throughout his life took more sugar than is perhaps the norm, over the young adulterous woman. Before Poe had revealed his true colours, Seuss had the only post that was pure fearful opportunism; yes he only had one scummy post with content! He only had one scummy post with content, but he only had with content; Mr Poe will strip it out of context but i'll say it again: a man with only scummy posts can not be pardoned simply because he does not have many.

↑ Jane Austen wrote:Sir, I pray that your apparent ignorance does not come from a position of trouble making; for, to be sure, that was my point exactly. If you are not going to find a player wicked for forgetting to post - a view I have urged many times while you were absent - then you should not find them wicked for forgetting to contribute.

I'm afraid I'm not following, Jane. Maybe I am too dense to understand, even though I have always thought of myself as one who is not throughout these tumultuous years. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that that was your point in comparing Seuss to the three writers, even though I'm not reading that in your post. The point I got was that Seuss was more likely to be a criminal for a lack of contributing than the three writers, who at least contributed something, even if it is as worthless as a piece of gum already chewed.

Jane wrote:I pray that you spare my blushes and do not urge me to repeat my minor little thoughts. Instead you can read my post 107, an answer to your question from before; you seemed to have ignored it, why?

I saw it, but thought your post I responded to was a more pressing matter. If one skins #107 down, much like the villainous Count Olaf skins fire fighters, one sees a vote on someone with little to no content. It is flimsy. I asked that question, if I was not clear, because you said this:

Jane wrote: For surely Joyce cannot believe that his threesome has posted less useful information than those who have not posted at all!

In which I assumed you were referring to Seuss (among other quiet, quiet people) when you said "those who have not posted at all." To me, it looked like you were changing your position: The Seuss vote was not for what you said in #107, but for a lack of posts. Am I misunderstanding this?

Also, Jane, if you were to read Rucks' mention about you in his most recent posting again, you will find that wasn't what he was saying at all.

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Other points of interest:

There is a certain clarity in Wallace's and Wilde's posts that makes me think they are not criminals, although I do admit it is a "gut" reaction, a phrase which here means it is merely instinct.

I also see the opportunism in cummings' post. Ee, how does Austen compare to the author you are voting, Bradley, in terms of likelihood to be a criminal?

↑ Marion Zimmer Bradley wrote:@ Thomas what do you mean by flatlander? I was raised in the mountains.

You just aren't hip.

↑ Marion Zimmer Bradley wrote:Now that Mr Cummings is actually starting to participate,

What is this, ?

↑ David Foster Wallace wrote:Through no direct action on her part. I put more stock in my reaction to the wagon on her. Several of the bandwagoners turned my stomach

"How do I feel about this . . . early into things, the usual, eh"

In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopicphp?p=4384403#p4384403]post 135[/url], David Foster Wallace wrote:plead again for you to move back to the E.A.P. wagon.

I feel like I'm being dragged into some shit that I don't want to be a part of or not part of, but that right now, it's the not part of that's winning 'cause there's something better out there, someplace where I've got to be. Marion is playing like straight scum, her pushes are into nowhere and her comments are bunk.

↑ Lemony Snicket wrote:In which I assumed you were referring to Seuss (among other quiet, quiet people) when you said "those who have not posted at all." To me, it looked like you were changing your position: The Seuss vote was not for what you said in #107, but for a lack of posts. Am I misunderstanding this?

I was referring to the quiet people when I said "those who have not posted at all"; The Joyce threesome has contributed no less than the lurkers, and have done so in a more obvious way - when lurking is so commonplace, active lurking is pointless. Is the difference between Poe and you, that Poe thinks non-posters must not be suspected, while you think that scum that lurk may only only be suspected by those that can't acknowledge lurking? Seuss wasn't even mentioned in my reply to Joyce! If you have eyes, then you could see that non-posting was an epidemic, and not restricted to just one scummy poster.

I here proffer revision of the cast:

Shakespeare
                           
Gregory Williamson
Christopher Marlowe, an innocent
      
Gertrude Stein
Thomas Pynchon
                        
Tommy Wiseau
David Foster Wallace
                  
Jane Austen
Edgar Allan Poe
                       
ee cummings, an innocent
James Joyce
                           
David Mamet
Moliere
                               
The Daily Bugle
Bret Easton Ellis
                     
Brian Jacques
Lemony Snicket
                        
God, an innocent
Charlie Kaufmann
                      
Mark Z. Danielewski
Oscar Wilde
                           
Marion Zimmer Bradley
Dr. Seuss
                             
Rucks

int

elligen

ce

or, lack of it

astounds






lost on those lacking

Imagineness

Poe, I said, lacked Truthness

Truthness =/= Townness

Austen lacks Townness

but NOT MORE

than mZb

who, EVEN

lacks convictionness

along with pynchon

whose posts lack

Everything

and yet still exist