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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:37 am
by fuzzybutternut
@Mod-Can we get a prod/replacement on the inactives please? This game isn't going to go anywhere without them.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:37 am
by Varsoon
fuzzybutternut wrote:
@Mod-Can we get a prod/replacement on the inactives please? This game isn't going to go anywhere without them.


Agreeing with this.
I was iffy at first, but you're a cool guy.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:11 pm
by kitiekatt
I'm here now, my meatworld weekend got away from me. I've read quickly but I am literally headed out the door. I don't know if I should stay in here, I'm in two games at once and that may not have been such a good idea. As I'm sure you can tell, I think the posting quota or even expecting people to post a ton is not a good idea. I'm more available on weekends, except for this one, and holidays. I'm working about 14 hrs/day Mon-Thurs. So that's how things look for me in terms of posting. Will try to come on later tonight and give reads, or if you guys would rather I replace out I can do that too.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:44 pm
by fuzzybutternut
kitiekatt wrote:I'm here now, my meatworld weekend got away from me. I've read quickly but I am literally headed out the door. I don't know if I should stay in here, I'm in two games at once and that may not have been such a good idea. As I'm sure you can tell, I think the posting quota or even expecting people to post a ton is not a good idea. I'm more available on weekends, except for this one, and holidays. I'm working about 14 hrs/day Mon-Thurs. So that's how things look for me in terms of posting. Will try to come on later tonight and give reads, or if you guys would rather I replace out I can do that too.


If you'd like to replace out, but can't be on to do it, just leave a note here and the mod will replace you. :)
Thanks for the update though.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:41 pm
by kuror0
Well, the only one really proddable is Nacho at this point i think. I hope kitie either finds time to keep up with the game or gets replaced, an inactive slot is very hurtfull for town.

VOTE: Nabber

I think Varsoon is actually town and i will keep an eye on those that voted him after i did.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:42 pm
by Nachomamma8
RandomYoshi wrote:
Varsoon wrote:In fact, if you were town, wouldn't you want to discuss things that might possibly lead to our success?

Yes, of course I'd want to discuss things that are beneficial for us Townies to win. I just wanted you to highlight how it could be contributing to our success as Town. In fact, all I wanted to know was your mindset behind the topics you brought up. Now that you have explained satisfactorily how it can help our success as Town, my question has been thoroughly answered.

I noticed you adjusting your phrasing to "us Townies" after Varsoon stated that you were referring to the town as you weren't part of it before, which is not necessarily a scumtell I subscribe to, but the adjustment itself/lack of response to this accusation is not something I find myself to be a huge fan of.

Varsoon wrote:We should hold a quota of so many posts per real-time day. Falling under the quota doesn't benefit town at all, and so those are people we can lynch if we don't agree on a definitive mafia target.

Some people will post less regardless of the quota, scum or town, and thus this does not necessarily help the town out in any way. Lots of activity is nice, but instead of making activity boosting a central part of the game, it's better just to engage and be active yourself. Activity hunting is something everyone can do regardless of alignment.

fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm not too happy with his posts, tbh. And everyone saying "oh he's definitely town" doesn't help it. You call scum town, they will continue to act town. I just recently made that mistake myself. Never believe someone is completely town.

okay cool but people are calling him town for a reason.
why do you think that he is scum?

Varsoon wrote:
Nobody Special wrote:I find Varsoon very suspect for not finding me scummy, but rather pointing out that scum could use me for an easy target. Could be a scumslip.

unvote

Vote: Varsoon


See what I said about reads?
Scum's just trying to turn town on itself.
If you scum make town lynch me, it will only turn out poorly, because then town will see how obvious it was that they were being manipulated.

Sorry about saying that you'd be an easy target. I'm just trying to pre-empt any scum moves.

you're reacting too strongly
calm.

kitiekatt wrote:I'm here now, my meatworld weekend got away from me. I've read quickly but I am literally headed out the door. I don't know if I should stay in here, I'm in two games at once and that may not have been such a good idea. As I'm sure you can tell, I think the posting quota or even expecting people to post a ton is not a good idea. I'm more available on weekends, except for this one, and holidays. I'm working about 14 hrs/day Mon-Thurs. So that's how things look for me in terms of posting. Will try to come on later tonight and give reads, or if you guys would rather I replace out I can do that too.

If you can keep up consistently with one post per day, you'll be completely fine.

Meanwhile,
Vote: RandomYoshi


He turned on Varsoon too quickly, and I haven't really liked all of the fence-sitting/lack of actual scumhunting that he's done so far.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:48 pm
by fuzzybutternut
I'm going to retract my scumread on him for now and
UNVOTE:
My interaction with him moved him toward town more.

What's with the vote on Nabber?

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:55 pm
by Nachomamma8
why are you retracting your varsoon scumread?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:02 am
by fuzzybutternut
I can generally read people better once I've interacted with them.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:17 am
by Nachomamma8
That didn't come close to answering my question. Why do you think he's town?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:21 am
by fuzzybutternut
Actually, it did. Read my vote again. I had no prior knowledge when I came into the game, having never played with him. My initial instinct said he was scum, after interaction, I realize he's just newb.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:25 am
by Nachomamma8
Vote: fuzzybutternut


What did he say that made you believe that he was town?
This is not hard, this is not difficult. Stop dodging questions.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:26 am
by fuzzybutternut
*sigh* it's not what he said, it's what he did. I'm not dodging questions. Read my answer and you'd understand.
Your vote doesn't scare me, BTW.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:30 am
by Nachomamma8
i don't care if it scares you or not
it's not supposed to scare you

what did he do?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:32 am
by Nachomamma8
you said it could be a newb tell, but when you voted for him, it was more likely it was a scum tell
what did he do that made you think that it was NOT a scum tell anymore?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:37 am
by RandomYoshi
Nachomamma8 wrote:
RandomYoshi wrote:
Varsoon wrote:In fact, if you were town, wouldn't you want to discuss things that might possibly lead to our success?

Yes, of course I'd want to discuss things that are beneficial for us Townies to win. I just wanted you to highlight how it could be contributing to our success as Town. In fact, all I wanted to know was your mindset behind the topics you brought up. Now that you have explained satisfactorily how it can help our success as Town, my question has been thoroughly answered.

I noticed you adjusting your phrasing to "us Townies" after Varsoon stated that you were referring to the town as you weren't part of it before, which is not necessarily a scumtell I subscribe to, but the adjustment itself/lack of response to this accusation is not something I find myself to be a huge fan of.

If it's something that you aren't such a huge fan of, why are you even going with it? And yeah, I do realise I could have pointed out how ridiculous the accusation was. Sadly, I was tired at the moment of writing that post so I didn't really that that into account.

Nachomamma8 wrote:
He turned on Varsoon too quickly, and I haven't really liked all of the fence-sitting/lack of actual scumhunting that he's done so far.

I'm not used to games immediately starting off with a non-game related conversation (the posting quota) so I wasn't quite sure on how to get things started. However, as soon as fuzzy made the first game-related move (voting somebody), I felt obliged to go after what he said.


@fuzzy:
How can you deduce somebody is Town for getting reads out of next to nothing?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:05 am
by Nachomamma8
RandomYoshi wrote:If it's something that you aren't such a huge fan of, why are you even going with it? And yeah, I do realise I could have pointed out how ridiculous the accusation was. Sadly, I was tired at the moment of writing that post so I didn't really that that into account.

When I say I'm not a huge fan of something, I mean that the thing is scummy. And why does fatigue make you hold defending yourself over calling out shitty attacks?

RandomYoshi wrote:I'm not used to games immediately starting off with a non-game related conversation (the posting quota) so I wasn't quite sure on how to get things started. However, as soon as fuzzy made the first game-related move (voting somebody), I felt obliged to go after what he said.

I don't understand why.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:15 am
by RandomYoshi
Nachomamma8 wrote:
RandomYoshi wrote:If it's something that you aren't such a huge fan of, why are you even going with it? And yeah, I do realise I could have pointed out how ridiculous the accusation was. Sadly, I was tired at the moment of writing that post so I didn't really that that into account.

When I say I'm not a huge fan of something, I mean that the thing is scummy. And why does fatigue make you hold defending yourself over calling out shitty attacks?
When I'm tired, I can't think clearly. It's literally that simple.

Nachomamma8 wrote:
RandomYoshi wrote:I'm not used to games immediately starting off with a non-game related conversation (the posting quota) so I wasn't quite sure on how to get things started. However, as soon as fuzzy made the first game-related move (voting somebody), I felt obliged to go after what he said.

I don't understand why.
fuzzy made the ball rolling. That was what made me think he was Town. But, I don't know if I should trust that read at the moment.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:26 am
by Nachomamma8
RandomYoshi wrote:When I'm tired, I can't think clearly. It's literally that simple.

so why didn't you bring up the shitty attack on you when you were awake and clear-thinking again?

RandomYoshi wrote:fuzzy made the ball rolling. That was what made me think he was Town. But, I don't know if I should trust that read at the moment.

I'd suggest you start being more independent and stop sheeping people's thoughts just because you think they are town.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:39 am
by RandomYoshi
Nachomamma8 wrote:
so why didn't you bring up the shitty attack on you when you were awake and clear-thinking again?

How in the world would I have been able to think that when I wasn't clear-thinking? But anyway, I get what you're saying. It was a stupid move on my part.
Nachomamma8 wrote:
I'd suggest you start being more independent and stop sheeping people's thoughts just because you think they are town.

After thinking about it, yeah, it's stupid to sheep people's thoughts because I think they're town. That way, I can't actually defend my cases and my points seem forced.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:41 am
by Nachomamma8
okay so what are your reads right now

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:42 am
by RandomYoshi
give me some time to ISO and i'll form some coherent reads

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:51 am
by Nachomamma8
do it before you get tired ;)

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:57 am
by RandomYoshi
something to ponder:

fuzzy is agreeing with reads left and right

— "Everyone else is pretty much the same as you."
— "I see what you mean about Yoshi, though. It's more of a newb-tell right now, though."

he still hasn't explained his sudden read flip on varsoon.

also:
— "The fact that you're deducing reads from little to nothing gives me a town read on you."

are you using second person to make it seem more ... idk, personal? welcome-y?

all in all, null leaning toward scum

i'm starting to get unsure about ang, but his to my seems odd

like, i get that i could have formatted the post better, but i still indicated that the quote was something i used to back up my question to varsoon

idk about nacho yet

Nachomamma8 wrote:do it before you get tired ;)

it's 2 pm

why would i get tired when it's 2 pm

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:04 am
by RandomYoshi
wait i'm almost certain that is a huge buddying post atm