Micro 153: Sherlock Holmes Mafia (Game Over)

[JasonWazza]

Love is a different thing, some people think it's about needing someone, but it should always be about wanting someone by you for eternity.

Vote Count 1.5

[3] Syryana: pirate mollie, sword_of_omens, goodmorning,
[2] Blue Yoshi: Seanald, Syryana,
[1] Ms Marangal: zachattack,

Not voting: Ms Marangal, Blue Yoshi, Pala,

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-04-16 15:57:31)

Zachattack was prodded earlier
SoO will be granted 12 more hours due to declared V/LA

[zachattack]

I'm still happy with my vote. I don't hate the idea of losing Syr here though, I don't like "I do this when I'm town but not when I'm scum!" posts. I think Ms M is the better option. Feels scummier.

[Syryana]

Pala, what do you think of my flash wagon?

I think it's a good wagon, unlike BY's wagon which didn't really have a strong basis. I particularly like sword's post #90 and the point he raises against you. Your only response to it has been that it was an overreaction and you tend to do that a lot (but moreso as town). I'll have to take a look at your meta to see if this is in fact true. Until then

FoS: Syryana

Well, there's a reason that was my only response. It was true. If the truth doesn't suit you I suppose I could make up some kind of story for you.

Not really enjoying Syryana's distance of Seanald, even though they perfectly agree with each other, it's a completely baseless FoS. How can you agree with the person and be suspicious of them as well?
While slightly rhetorical I still want you to answer it Syryana.

Um, just because someone says something I agree with doesn't mean I trust them.

On Syr's wagon: I wouldn't classify it as a flashwagon and I wouldn't say it precludes him from being Scum.

I went from L-5 to L-2 in 6 posts and three hours. Yoshi had a similar timeline but more posts occurred (and it was L-1 instead of L-2). How is my wagon not a flash wagon?

[goodmorning]

The reasoning behind it basically. I wouldn't classify your wagon as a flashwagon because the reasoning on it is decent. I don't think it's unreasonable for three people to have voted you so quickly.

[Syryana]

The reasoning behind it basically. I wouldn't classify your wagon as a flashwagon because the reasoning on it is decent. I don't think it's unreasonable for three people to have voted you so quickly.

I see.

[Ms Marangal]

GM: where did I state I didn't care about the answer of the questions you ask me? I actually like the answers to the questions that I ask, they help me determine a persons alignment. I agree with you in regards to 122. Pala gave me weird vibes as well, specially 117

Zach: reason being? calling Yoshi out for defending me, yet defending him later on? I didn't actually defend him as I still stated that I had some other things to find him suspicious by. you also don't call out my blantant defense of Syr... I was kinda expecting someone to pick it up :/

Yoshi, I agree with my scum reads all the time, but that doesn't mean they are less of a read. I am suspicious of everyone, yet suspicious of no one early on. it's all about balance.

[sword_of_omens]

busy day today... checking in on phone...
@pala - yes this is part for the course in regards to Seanald... he's always anti town and frustrating...


I'll update my reads tomorrow when I can get to a computer

[Pala]

Thanks for the answer, sword. Seanald is null then for the moment.

I would also like to hear what zach's reasoning is for voting Ms M.

[goodmorning]

GM: where did I state I didn't care about the answer of the questions you ask me? I actually like the answers to the questions that I ask, they help me determine a persons alignment. I agree with you in regards to 122. Pala gave me weird vibes as well, specially 117

Forgive me, it was an assumption based on lack of acknowledgement.

[pirate mollie]

pala is tweaking my scumdar and I don't think it is a playstyle thing

want to vote pala?

[Syryana]

pala is tweaking my scumdar and I don't think it is a playstyle thing

want to vote pala?

What about Pala tweaks your scumdar?

[Ms Marangal]

pala is tweaking my scumdar and I don't think it is a playstyle thing

want to vote pala?

I second this, and GM stated that Pala gives him weird vibes.

[Ms Marangal]

117 gives me goosbumps specifically, as does 132

[Seanald]

Your mom gives me a huge goosebump in pants

Mod: Watch yourself this is getting personal

[zachattack]

I don't like that Ms. M has been buddying up to Swords since post 12, and when I called her on it, she said it was because of post 44. And if she was suspicious of Yoshi, why try to deflect questions aimed his way? Sean's 35 wasn't an amazing reason for a vote, but why are you deflecting questions aimed towards someone you're suspicious of. Especially when you're suspicious of them for defending you?

[Ms Marangal]

How have I been buddying up to Swords? I have exactly one nice comment and one post stating that I think he's town. how is saying a person is town = buddying? as for Yoshi the only thing I "Deflected" was Seanalds reason for voting Yoshi because that reason was shit but I still maintained my suspicion on him. I did not defend him in anyway, and I still made it known that Yoshi was still a suspect, Yoshi was trying to make me look completely innocent (or so I thought) I also said that GM is likely town and I also show more proactive signs of potential buddying to mollie. also, Syr

[sword_of_omens]

@Seanald – quit being a deliberate ass…it’s almost as if you are trying to hard at it this game…which means you are creeping over to the scum side of my wall…I’d appreciate it if you would contribute…

you also don't call out my blantant defense of Syr... I was kinda expecting someone to pick it up :/

Not sure what your purpose here is? Care to explain?
I also really don’t like the fact that you second Mollie’s “Hey let’s vote Pala” and use GM’s posting as ammo to try and start and fuel a wagon, yet you still avoid voting…and yes, I do realize that you don’t throw votes around nilly willy, but considering you’re giving your stamp of approval on it and also trying to tie GM into the mix to help justify it, all the while keeping your hands clean, makes me worry about you.
Also, what exactly about Pala’s 117 “especially” gave you bad scum vibes?

[Syryana]

After going back and looking at Pala, there's a couple things that stand out. Pala seems to be taking swords' answers/reasons w.r.t. me and Seanald without challenge. Why would you need swords to tell you if this is par for the course for Seanald? Why not go meta Seanald instead? Why would you call swords' reason for voting me a good reason yet only FOS me?

Marangal, why are you buddying mollie and me?

@Seanald – quit being a deliberate ass…it’s almost as if you are trying to hard at it this game…which means you are creeping over to the scum side of my wall…I’d appreciate it if you would contribute…

A tryharding ass? Does his assholishness appear forced? Why does Seanald making personal attacks make you think he's scum?

[Ms Marangal]

Mollie, because she's mollie <3

and you because I don't think the pressure on you is misplaced. also, I was hoping someone would pick up on it as the way a person does, and how they present their worry on my buddying can tell me what that person's alignment it, but since no one picked up on it, I can't use it :/

While Pala is my top suspect, I want to see more from him. I want more evidence to ensure that my read on him is the correct one, I will place my vote on him eventually, especially if he does more things that I find suspicious

117 bothers me because of how it's presented. what he questions and what he comments on all seems artificial, and his self-awareness seems to be a tad bit over the top in that post

[Syryana]

and you because I don't think the pressure on you is misplaced. also, I was hoping someone would pick up on it as the way a person does, and how they present their worry on my buddying can tell me what that person's alignment it, but since no one picked up on it, I can't use it :/

So, let me get this straight. You're buddying me because you think I'm scum. You want other people to pick up on it so that you can intuit their alignment? That's a pretty exotic move. Why did you feel the need to make it?

[Ms Marangal]

no... fuck. fuck mornings

I'm buddying you BECAUSE I believe the pressure on you is misplaced. fuck, I should leave and come back later :/

[pirate mollie]

how much later jesus christ

[pirate mollie]

every time I have been in a game where the wagon stalled this early in a micro it was the bw was on scum and they could not get (or too chickenshit) to get a competing one going.

let's lynch syrana guys

[Syryana]

every time I have been in a game where the wagon stalled this early in a micro it was the bw was on scum and they could not get (or too chickenshit) to get a competing one going.

let's lynch syrana guys

I fail to see how 7/9 people being afk is indicative of my alignment.

VOTE: pirate mollie

[pirate mollie]

lol