Newbie 1356 (OVER)

[Mutleyddmc]

Hmm? What is that supposed to mean? I find any attacks that reach behind the computer screen into your actual life a personal attack, and not only is it rude, it is against the rules of the site.

It means that I think personal attacks are something that attack you that are actually true and personal. I know nothing of RCs life so its not reaching into his actual life. However I was agreeing that others have different opinions. I don't disagree it wasn't rude. I don't call it a personal attack because personal means I have to know something about that person that would be vulnerable and attack that.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

You also don't answer my question that you would have some huge leads if it wasn't for me?? Why don't you want to answer questions that isn't very helpful. At least I answer questions even if they are jokey scumslips.

Also slips imply I slipped up. Where as I have intentionally posted everything. What scum would seriously say you will get killed tonight etc

Unhelpful answers are no more useful than not answering questions; because avoidance of questions can be as useful information (in fact it's probably more useful than an always unhelpful answer). And it's convenient to say that you meant everything you said and some of it there's no question you did; on some of it though it's possible it's a mistake you made.

As of now, I am not convinced that Mutley is scum. Why?
He hasn't led a wagon on a single player, nor has he strongly advocated lynching anyone.
The only player that he's given a scum-read on is Mist, but his vote is still parked on Shaboos despite it seeming more like an RVS vote/reaction test.

Honestly, he's done the most pro-town work so far, because by scumbluffing like he has, the other players have responded in a myriad of ways. Even if he is scum, this has given good reads and taken the game in a solid direction that was necessary during RVS.

Regardless, I wouldn't rule him out as scum so quickly, but I'd prefer to lynch a scum-candidate whose flip would do something more constructive for the game.

I mean this is complete nonsense, if you want to say we shouldn't lynch Mutley right now that's a valid opinion to have. It's even possible that you could have a town-read on him though that seems stretched to me. But the idea that he's done any pro-town work is absurd, behaving in an anti-town fashion as town is not helpful, it gives scum an excuse to place an easy vote, it gives scum an easy thing to argue against and it generally leads to votes being placed on a town player.

[Mutleyddmc]

Ok so you have avoided answering. I suppose that is now useful information that you like to pick and choose your points.

[Varsoon]

DDDP, where were we at page three?
Thanks to Mutley, we have 3 more pages of actual content.
If you don't think that his posts, in some way, have moved this game forward,
Then we'll have to agree to disagree.

I'd like more people to give reads.

[Mutleyddmc]

You have also implied that I have done no Pro town work. (By saying its absurb that I have done ANY pro town work) I'm pretty sure I have done at least 1 pro-town work.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am not playing until this troll gets lynched.

[Mutleyddmc]

You should probably replace out then. As you aren't being helpful in the slightest now. You have become the troll. You should replace out as sadly I think you are town. If I thought you were scum I'd just lynch you.

[RadiantCowbells]

I already offered.

[Mist7676]

RC, Why do you still see mutley as a troll? He's right, if anything you have become what you despise. You are not posting any new content, only "I want mutley lynched" and your only case is that he is a troll. Maybe if you provided more of a detailed case, we can see your point, and get him lynched. But for now, I see him as town.

[Mutleyddmc]

Right ok so I've check this thread a few times this moring and I have seen RC in here. Hasn't posted even though there are clear questions to answer, you'd expect a post even if it didn't answer mists questions. So I am now leaning scum on him.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

If he has indeed asked to be replaced could messiah confirm as this will then be all pointless. However for now my vote goes on him.

[Varsoon]

I'm not so sure about the Radiant-lurk-scum idea.

I've checked the thread a few times without replying, too.
Nothing's happening and lots of people are inactive.
Does this make me scum?
Hardly.

[Mutleyddmc]

No however thats why I combined it with the fact that he was asked clear questions and hasn't posted much himself, you'd expect something. You however like me will have been in the thread but not seen anything really to write or to respond to. However now there is (my post) you have replied.

[Mutleyddmc]

Also combine it with a lot of his posts complaining about inactivity......

[Varsoon]

Well, since I'm here, is there anything you want to discuss about the game or with me?

[Mutleyddmc]

Not right now from you. I know your opinions and you have been pretty active. You have been very helpful to the game and will probably save me from looking at your for a target on day 1. However I have some suspicions on you.

I'd like to here from others a bit more. Pyro for one.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Thanks to Mutley, we have 3 more pages of actual content.
If you don't think that his posts, in some way, have moved this game forward,
Then we'll have to agree to disagree.

I could post "banana banana banana" for three straight pages but that wouldn't help the game state and in fact might irritate people into lynching me which would be a net negative.

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@Anyone/Everyone, if you had to lynch one of the SEs which one would you lynch and why?

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: shaboostein

[Mutleyddmc]

He said banana banana banana kill him!!!

To answer your question, I have a slight scum read on mist. However right now I'd lynch pyro as I am null on him right now mainly because there isn't a lot to go on so for that reason him. However I'd also happily flip a coin between the 2.

Any reason for your vote dddp?

[shaboostein]

DDDP, thanks for the pressure, actually got me to bust my butt and find a computer to get on. (I'm assuming it was pressure)

@Anyone/Everyone, if you had to lynch one of the SEs which one would you lynch and why?

Mist at the moment. Jumps on wagons and seems to go with the group. Paid Pyro doesn't seem afraid to go against Varsoon, who most are assuming as town. Makes me think of him more pro-town.

RC's acting weird. His arguments against mutley, as well as the entire mutley wagon made sense, but now that mutley's actually trying to post content and get involved (versus making the scum-slip jokes), I don't think policy lynching him D1 would be beneficial. I find the game lacking in scum reads right now though, especially with the multey wagon still being disputed.

I'm fine with leaving my vote on RC at the moment. Start playing or get replaced. (I'm not sure what the replacement procedures are. Just PM the mod I guess)

[Zoggoth]

I would probably lynch PP over Mist at the moment. His posts seem to be a bit lacking in content so far, and his recent posts seem unhelpful at best, deliberately counterproductive at worst. Mist seems to have done more for the game, and her posts, while not a sure town, seem to be a bit less scummy than the feeling I'm getting from PP. However, I would really prefer for PP to come and defend himself before I consider lynching him.

[Varsoon]

Thanks to Mutley, we have 3 more pages of actual content.
If you don't think that his posts, in some way, have moved this game forward,
Then we'll have to agree to disagree.

I could post "banana banana banana" for three straight pages but that wouldn't help the game state and in fact might irritate people into lynching me which would be a net negative.

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@Anyone/Everyone, if you had to lynch one of the SEs which one would you lynch and why?

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: shaboostein

True, but if people responded to you posting that in a myriad of different ways, it would allow people to get reads from them.
Why the Shaboos vote?

I'd lynch Pyro for the same reasons I said I'd vote Pyro earlier.

[Varsoon]

DDDP, thanks for the pressure, actually got me to bust my butt and find a computer to get on. (I'm assuming it was pressure)

@Anyone/Everyone, if you had to lynch one of the SEs which one would you lynch and why?

Mist at the moment. Jumps on wagons and seems to go with the group. Paid Pyro doesn't seem afraid to go against Varsoon, who most are assuming as town. Makes me think of him more pro-town.

RC's acting weird. His arguments against mutley, as well as the entire mutley wagon made sense, but now that mutley's actually trying to post content and get involved (versus making the scum-slip jokes), I don't think policy lynching him D1 would be beneficial. I find the game lacking in scum reads right now though, especially with the multey wagon still being disputed.

I'm fine with leaving my vote on RC at the moment. Start playing or get replaced. (I'm not sure what the replacement procedures are. Just PM the mod I guess)

You seemed to react pretty quickly to the 'pressure' put on you, despite being absent for so long. Anyway, I agree with your points on the RC lynch, but Policy lynching is always a dumb idea. Always. Let her replace out, and if the replacement gives us scummy content, then we can lynch. As of now, it's just too easy a wagon for scum to push, too.

[Mist7676]

Hmm, I would totally lynch mist

What was with that post DDD? Thinking of lynching one the SE's? Or is it a jab at our discussion at lynching the IC earlier?

And do you have an explanation for the shabo vote coming soon. If it was to put pressure, it worked, but it obviously shows shabo was lurking the thread, and could have posted. I see this as scummy, because scum don't like when they have votes on them, and suddenly become so active when they do.

[Paid Pyro]

Prod dodge. Home for work (really busy week), will get on later tonight, after the kiddos are in bed.

[RadiantCowbells]

Vote: Shaboostein

baaah

No but seriously, lurks away the game, then BAM gets voted and responds instantly.
I don't like it.

[Messiah]

Newbie 1356 - Vote Count 1.7

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RadiantCowbells [L-2]

- shaboostein, dexter9264, Mutleyddmc
shaboostein [L-3] - Debonair Danny DiPietro, RadiantCowbell
Varsoon [L-4] - Paid Pyro
Paid Pyro [L-4] - Varsoon

Not Voting (2):

Zoggoth, Mist7676

With nine alive it takes

five

to lynch.

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(expired on 2013-04-24 20:00:00)