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↑ BBmolla wrote:

!xmafia votes

||| MAFIABOT || VOTE COUNT (7 to lynch) |||

||| MAFIABOT || Sharper - 1 (Syryana) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Voidedmafia - 2 (Parama Varsoon) |||
||| MAFIABOT || shos - 1 (Untrod_Tripod) |||
||| MAFIABOT || BBmolla - 4 (PimHel Mac MonkeyMan576 Voidedmafia) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Untrod_Tripod - 2 (Sharper BBmolla) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Varsoon - 2 (shos serrapaladin) |||
||| MAFIABOT || Mac - 1 (The_Rufflig) |||

||| MAFIABOT || Living players: BBmolla, Mac, MonkeyMan576, Parama, PimHel, serrapaladin, Sharper, shos, Syryana, The_Rufflig, Untrod_Tripod, Varsoon, Voidedmafia |||

Note: Bolding *isn't* technically fully necessary. But it's appreciated by the mod and reduces the chance that your vote may get accidentally overlooked.

Mac is probably the scum on me atm

↑ Syryana wrote:

↑ serrapaladin wrote:
Sarcastically calling Syr's post vacuous or disagreeing with a mass lynch?

I think you mean mass claim. And I wouldn't have to make vacuous posts if people wouldn't keep being deliberately obtuse about the phrase "treating this as mountainous."

Pedit, case in fucking point.

Yeah...mass lynching is probably not the best of ideas

My criticism wasn't directed at your "treating this as mountainous". (I see what you mean by that, but I think without flips you should treat every D1 more or less the same, so I don't see the point of mentioning it.) What I was getting at was how you didn't want to take a stance about mass claiming, but mentioned it anyways. It struck me as somewhat odd, so I decided to make a flippant comment about it.


I don't see what's wrong with VM or UT. The latter needs to start making posts longer than 10 words, but he's not the only one. Hyperbole is not necessarily a scumtell.

↑ Varsoon wrote:You've never reaction tested a possible reaction test?

No actually. If I recognized a reaction test, I let it play out... I don't really like Varsoon so far.


@BB: regarding your 3 VT comment, this is a Wacky test-setup from KK's last game:
(12:42:17 AM) XylBot: (notice) [wacky] mafia: Mafioso, Voteblocker; mafia-ally: Inventor in Training; sk: Nightmare; town: Roleblocker, Mystery Role (Monolith), Voteblocker, Eavesdropper, Townie (x5)

Also, what's with your Mac comment? Why should there be scum on your wagon this early and why Mac?

Post 81 - Varsoon

Pre-game is over? Since when? Barely any suspicions were made (and when done, barely pushed) and after that we went to game discussion. So no, it wasn't done yet.
If you think that one of the active players is scum, you should give us something. Not a possibility, as that's fake.

P.S. an example is not ATE.

There's too much set-up discussion >.<

Better wagon than Molla or Voided. Both aren't scummy to me. Varsoon is just a bit below Untrod.

EBWOP
@Serra
what are your exact thoughts about Sharper, Varsoon and Syry?

↑ Varsoon wrote:On the real, about Voidedmafia hyperbolizing what I said about not bringing up our personal lives in game to avoid AtEs, that's equally embarrassing. I don't know if it's scum or just asinine to go into a game and employ rhetoric that's inflammatory and littered with hyperbolic interpretations of what people say.

Note that I only said so in context of what Pim was saying, not about AtE in general (the part about it being unavoidable is a separate thing from the others). You looked like you were honestly chastising Pim for eating dinner instead of talking about the game, hence my reaction.

BB: Meh.

↑ BBmolla wrote:Mac is probably the scum on me atm

Eh?

@voided 121:

that a good post, I like you. I would like to add that in the first game, the setups were completely useless in figuiring the setup - the flips were not. we had more than one kill a night, and when someone flips 'beta werewolf' you know that there's an alpha one, and with more (other) scums flipped, the setups are really, useless.

@Molla 123: why UT? I don't recall anything from that slot?

@124 varsoon: wow, you realy are scum. you really deserve that vote. that reaction test thingie is not how it's done and it smells fake. the fact that you immediately changed the subject to the smiley just shows that you're lying and trying to divert attention. Then there's the two lines that say absolutely nothing about nothing combined with nothingness and big words - and a bad vote without reasoning.

>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmmUAqE7nQ <<<<

~~~
someone needs to explain to me why people are voting UT and Molla. perhaps I missed something.

↑ PimHel wrote:what are your exact thoughts about Sharper, Varsoon and Syry?

Syryana seems town. Sharper bothers me a bit, but there's not really enough to go off yet. Varsoon looks scummy.

↑ PimHel wrote:If you think that one of the active players is scum, you should give us something. Not a possibility, as that's fake.

I'm not sure I get what you mean with the 'fake' part. Also, please explain your UT vote (which, btw, I'm not sure counts, being on one line with the unvote).

Shos is likely town.

↑ shos wrote:@voided 121:

that a good post, I like you. I would like to add that in the first game, the setups were completely useless in figuiring the setup - the flips were not. we had more than one kill a night, and when someone flips 'beta werewolf' you know that there's an alpha one, and with more (other) scums flipped, the setups are really, useless.

@Molla 123: why UT? I don't recall anything from that slot?

@124 varsoon: wow, you realy are scum. you really deserve that vote. that reaction test thingie is not how it's done and it smells fake. the fact that you immediately changed the subject to the smiley just shows that you're lying and trying to divert attention. Then there's the two lines that say absolutely nothing about nothing combined with nothingness and big words - and a bad vote without reasoning.

>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmmUAqE7nQ <<<<

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someone needs to explain to me why people are voting UT and Molla. perhaps I missed something.

Yeah, I could see how that would be scummy, if I didn't textually set it (the smiley aside) aside in more than one way. No one even responded to that, and they shouldn't have. Isn't it scummier of you to try to make a case against me with such a flimsy point?

My vote was simply more reaction testing--this time via vote pressure. It also lets me see which players call me out on making a bad vote, so, I'll make sure to keep this in mind should you slip up some more in the future. As of now, though, you seem null-leaning town to me.

↑ Voidedmafia wrote:

↑ Varsoon wrote:On the real, about Voidedmafia hyperbolizing what I said about not bringing up our personal lives in game to avoid AtEs, that's equally embarrassing. I don't know if it's scum or just asinine to go into a game and employ rhetoric that's inflammatory and littered with hyperbolic interpretations of what people say.

Note that I only said so in context of what Pim was saying, not about AtE in general (the part about it being unavoidable is a separate thing from the others). You looked like you were honestly chastising Pim for eating dinner instead of talking about the game, hence my reaction.

BB: Meh.

↑ BBmolla wrote:Mac is probably the scum on me atm

Eh?

Ah, makes sense. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I guess what I mean is:
Live your life first,
Play Mafiascum whenever,
Just don't use excuses from your life in Mafiascum.
If you miss some time, you miss some time. We don't need to know why, as those facts are so far removed from the game.

↑ PimHel wrote:Post 81 - Varsoon

Pre-game is over? Since when? Barely any suspicions were made (and when done, barely pushed) and after that we went to game discussion. So no, it wasn't done yet.
If you think that one of the active players is scum, you should give us something. Not a possibility, as that's fake.

P.S. an example is not ATE.

There's too much set-up discussion >.<

!Unvote: BBMolla; !Vote Untrod

Better wagon than Molla or Voided. Both aren't scummy to me. Varsoon is just a bit below Untrod.

Sorry to do so many posts in a row. I should just multi-quote, but with different subjects like this, I find it is easier for people to quote back. I'unno. Anyway:


You haven't made suspicions? You couldn't make reads on all the people who have posted so far?
Every single post, regardless of content, still speaks towards a player's intentions and alignment, in some form.
We're six pages deep. Insisting we're still in pre-game proliferates a pre-game mentality. Let's actually play and make assessments of each other.

I'd like to see more votes on Varsoon.

I was willing to give you a chance, but those last posts are bad ._.
1. You agree that your vote could be seen as scummy and then you go like 'yeah, but, I actually did it for that reason' as you try to get him off of you. Then you slightly hint at something you find scummy with a question, which doesn't sit well with me.
2. You appologise, but no unvote.
3. Reaching as I have made suspicions, etc.

@Serra
I had a bad vibe about UT due to him attacking Monkey. I want to look at him more.

if you think that was an attack, just wait til I see what I do to Jenny

Between #124 and #133, I'm pretty happy with a Varsoon lynch. The "reaction testing a reaction test" reeked of BS and his defense in #133 (if you can call it that) was even worse.



I believe that's L-3.

P-edit: L-2.

↑ shos wrote:that a good post, I like you. I would like to add that in the first game, the setups were completely useless in figuiring the setup - the flips were not. we had more than one kill a night, and when someone flips 'beta werewolf' you know that there's an alpha one, and with more (other) scums flipped, the setups are really, useless.

I'm aware, but that was because of flips from the game itself, not from the setups Katsuki was trying to make. Much more relevant and necessary info.

↑ Varsoon wrote:Yeah, I could see how that would be scummy, if I didn't textually set it (the smiley aside) aside in more than one way. No one even responded to that, and they shouldn't have. Isn't it scummier of you to try to make a case against me with such a flimsy point?

Accusing you of failing to do any sort of good reaction test and deflecting from that issue is a flimsy point?

Plus, your reason for voting me makes me twitch in a bad way.

What a bad wagon

your face is a bad wagon

Take it back

oh I already took it back

TO YOUR MOM'S BEDROOM

I haven't read anything \o/

according to molla's sig, we'll be lynching parama tomorrow, then

I only just realized the scummies happened

Yeah I'm vigging Parama

↑ Voidedmafia wrote:

Vote: Parama

>taking fakeclaim seriously
>Don't know if scum or dumb
>Ignoring rest of game

↑ Syryana wrote:

Parama wrote:I claim bulletproof.
Discuss.

He's clearly a jester.
VOTE: Voidedmafia

>Obvjester
>Obvnewbie
>You're lucky

↑ shos wrote:Stop making up stuff Parama, that's my job! :angryface:

you serious or what.

>are you serious
>confirmed scum
as informed minority shos must take things more literally. that line pretty much biases me to read shos as scum from here on out.

↑ BBmolla wrote:Seriously Parama

Seriously

I don't know what you expected

↑ Sharper wrote:VOTE: Syryana

No

↑ Syryana wrote:

↑ Sharper wrote:VOTE: Syryana

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sharper

Yes

↑ Sharper wrote:Let's start over, Syryana. VOTE: Voidedmafia

Also scum, 2/3 caught

↑ shos wrote:VOTE: voidedmafia

/inb44rdvoteisscum

You got scummier

↑ Sharper wrote:Nah, they can't say that because you preemptively sneered at it. Now the Voidedmafia lynch can proceed unabated.

Wow, and this is a beautiful scum interaction. Totally got this

↑ BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Monkeyman

Policy

...
Molla.
What happened? Your play is crap. You're only just now policy voting, though he hasn't posted yet, and you have posted prior to this? What the hell were you dillydallying for?

↑ Untrod Tripod wrote:

vote shos

Just cause

10/10 would read again

↑ MonkeyMan576 wrote:

vote: BBMollan

Policy Lynching is dumb. Plus, I'm 2-0 in my last two games, one each as town and scum.

I can tell from this post why Molla wants to policy you, just that I'd rather lynch scum

↑ serrapaladin wrote:Hi guys.
VOTE: mod for voting pedantry
and

!vote Sharper

for reasons.

Giving you a cookie too

↑ BBmolla wrote:If I wasn't policy lynching Monkey I'd be voting UT right now for pointing out stupidly obvious things.

You don't play this shallow and you know it

↑ shos wrote:Three people haven't talked yet~ have they seen the thread is open?

Oh my god shos
you have mastered the art of bleeding scum
this is the most passive lurker callout ever, designed to distract the town without really making any accusations.
would be pro if not so obvious.

↑ Varsoon wrote:

↑ Sharper wrote:Nah, they can't say that because you preemptively sneered at it. Now the Voidedmafia lynch can proceed unabated.

!vote Sharper

You broke out the L word way too fast.

That's not the reason why Sharper is scum, but your vote is appreciated. Sorry for hammering you.

↑ shos wrote:

↑ Varsoon wrote:
Never been in a Xylbot game. I am so confus.

!xmafia special

Soo you haven't been in a Xylbot game before and already you know this command, which is what?

You're still not scumhunting.

↑ BBmolla wrote:

↑ Voidedmafia wrote:

↑ BBmolla wrote:If I wasn't policy lynching Monkey I'd be voting UT right now for pointing out stupidly obvious things.

pointing out the obvious is a scumtell now?

If you're UT yes

I'm glad you apparently hate me, it means I can just brush off your rage because I'm 100% sure you're third party. Don't make sense with my scum pairing but you can't possibly be town.

↑ Mac wrote:Fucking hell, this is just screaming bastard.

Welcome to the redundancy department of redundancy, welcome!

↑ Sharper wrote:

!vote Untrod Tripod

I have cut out everything except your logic towards UT for emphasis

↑ BBmolla wrote:

↑ Parama wrote:okay
someone point me to the posts that aren't setup nonsense
I only care about those

hint: setup speculation is totally useless in a randomly generated potentially bastard setup

Btw Parama this post is shit and is as useless as setup spec

Nice. Discrediting. You still haven't done anything useful in the game up to this point.
Also Varsoon wagoned formed on a newbtell. Sorry for hammering. He's town. Unfortunately, since that means ya'll are gonna rage at me for hammering.
I think I'm going to give serra points for not voting him in 86.

↑ BBmolla wrote:

↑ serrapaladin wrote:Why are we PLing monkeyman?

He's Monkeyman

Your sig gets even more ironic

↑ shos wrote:

!vote Varsoon

Serra brought it to my attention that Varsoon has responded too heavily to the 'accusation' of sorta-lurking.

And that's not a newbtell why? Are you planning to give any more evidence to back up your read? Assuming Varsoon is scum, there's likely something in his other posts, yes?
Syr also gets townpoints for not immediately hopping on Varsoon.

↑ MonkeyMan576 wrote:

Vote: Sharper

He did get quiet all of a sudden. Plus he questioned why lynching town is a bad thing.

You're safe for now too.
I really like serra. Might be my first actual townread. I get the impression he's actually thinking and is actually trying to catch scum.

↑ BBmolla wrote:Monkey calls someone out for lurking after they say they're going to lurk

Please lynch Monkey, I'm gonna make campaign banners and everything

That doesn't make it excusable
In fact
It makes it justified

That you're pushing it as policy, and not scummy, though, is what really makes me think you're scum.

...oh. holy carps. Molla is totally jester. Carry on.
I get it. The especially aggressiveness, the noticeable ignorance, it's like scummy without being too obvious, except it is apparently too obvious since I see through it or something? I dunno either way Molla is officially jester and I'm moving on
Rufflig if you're going to arrive late and then vote without explanation you better have a damn good reason

↑ shos wrote:you guys are goint o have to explain the Sharper votes for me.

zzz too easy

↑ BBmolla wrote:Serra is scum btw.

10/10 would vig again

↑ BBmolla wrote:Vote me then

...Your plan is brilliant. You are a jester acting like a mafia acting like a jester. Beautiful.
okay maybe I shouldn't ignore Voided completely but I wouldn't o so far as to call him town yet

↑ BBmolla wrote:FTR Voided sucks at reading me.

ftr more discrediting
I'm not sure why I'm wasting my time reading your posts anymore, they don't matter, but I guess I just had to say it

↑ Varsoon wrote:Aside here, but eyeroll has to be the douchiest emoticon anyone could insert into their text. Every time I see it, I cringe. I guess it's cool to be an ass, but eyeroll just feels juvenile and crass.

they see me rollin'
they hatin'

...I'm sorry. I just had to. It was too easy.
BACK TO TAKING THIS SOMEWHAT SERIOUSLY
Hmm. I get bad feelings about Pim, but they're not worth pursuing yet, not with several better targets
I guess I can't say shos didn't contribute any logic to the Varsoon wagon but I can't say his logic amounts to much either
136 however is slimeball vote fishing and shos can burn in hell for it
141 is ye old meh actually who cares

↑ BBmolla wrote:Yeah I'm vigging Parama

COME AT ME BRO

oh wait
you don't have a vig
tough luck